Hi All I been using whitebox 3 for a bit and am take a look at cent 3.3 and 3.1 so far like it, but i seeing with older system 200 to 800 not Intel system (amd k6/2) ( not all of them ) cent comes back in install and till me that its not made for system like this ... whitebox 3 works OK so I'm not sure why and if a can get around this ....
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Michael Falzon wrote:
Hi All I been using whitebox 3 for a bit and am take a look at cent 3.3 and 3.1 so far like it, but i seeing with older system 200 to 800 not Intel system (amd k6/2) ( not all of them ) cent comes back in install
The minimum processor supported by RHEL 3 is Pentium Pro. However, Redhat did provide a spec file to build a Pentium kernel.
and till me that its not made for system like this
CentOS does not Provide a Pentium Kernel.
... whitebox 3 works
I believe (and looking at a mirror) that John Morris built and shipped the Pentium kernel with WBEL.
OK so I'm not sure why and if a can get around this ....
You might be able to install with WBEL and then "upgrade" to CentOS. If you need/wanted to upgrade the kernel, you'd have to build one (pentium class machines) for CentOS yourself. I'm sure someone would be willing to help you in #centos on IRC.
I'm presently working on a WBEL to CentOS migration guide. I hope to test it in the next 24 hours with an individual who has several trashable WBEL boxes at his disposal.
Please email me privately if you don't see something in the FAQ on http://webdev.centos.org in the next day or two.
.dn
On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 16:40, donavan nelson wrote:
The minimum processor supported by RHEL 3 is Pentium Pro. However, Redhat did provide a spec file to build a Pentium kernel.
I was thinking that ....
and till me that its not made for system like this
CentOS does not Provide a Pentium Kernel.
... whitebox 3 works
I believe (and looking at a mirror) that John Morris built and shipped the Pentium kernel with WBEL.
its starttung to look like it
OK so I'm not sure why and if a can get around this ....
You might be able to install with WBEL and then "upgrade" to CentOS. If you need/wanted to upgrade the kernel, you'd have to build one (pentium class machines) for CentOS yourself. I'm sure someone would be willing to help you in #centos on IRC.
Hmm I think i know how to do this ...
I'm presently working on a WBEL to CentOS migration guide. I hope to test it in the next 24 hours with an individual who has several trashable WBEL boxes at his disposal.
Cool if you need someone to test it just ask i have my network ( 10 pc ) + 5 remote site to update
Please email me privately if you don't see something in the FAQ on http://webdev.centos.org in the next day or two.
.dn
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donavan nelson wrote:
Michael Falzon wrote:
Hi All I been using whitebox 3 for a bit and am take a look at cent 3.3 and 3.1 so far like it, but i seeing with older system 200 to 800 not Intel system (amd k6/2) ( not all of them ) cent comes back in install
The minimum processor supported by RHEL 3 is Pentium Pro. However, Redhat did provide a spec file to build a Pentium kernel.
and till me that its not made for system like this
CentOS does not Provide a Pentium Kernel.
Does anybody have a better picture of what this 'line' is? I.E. Intel 200, 300, 350? AMD 300, 450? Would this be Pentium vs. Pentium II? Perhaps the K6-2 series on the AMD side?
Just trying to get a better idea so I don't get any surprises. I do have one old Proliant 3000 with a 300 processor hanging around and doing a fine job of what it is used for. One would never know it is not a latest greatest 8 processor xeon server for what it does. :) It simply needs to be reliable and it is VERY reliable.
Best,
John Hinton
Hi,
Does anybody have a better picture of what this 'line' is? I.E. Intel 200, 300, 350? AMD 300, 450? Would this be Pentium vs. Pentium II? Perhaps the K6-2 series on the AMD side?
I just installed 3.3 on a Celeron 400 last night. Anyone else?
CentOS 3.3 on a Pentium II with 300 Mhz, a Pentium I with 166 Mhz, one K6 system with 200 Mhz, all working fine, working as little build farm and test suite for development. All systems have at 64MB RAM installed. In the office we do run some systems with CentOS on PII (333) systems with 96MB for daily work. No issues yet. All installed with CentOS 3.1 and upgraded to 3.3. Uptime is now around half a year with around 20 minutes administration after installation for setting up internal yum repo.
Daniel
My current server(old gateway desktop) is PII 300 w/ 384MB, running CentOS3.3, w/ apache, mysql, qmail, clamd, spamassassin, Gnome(occassionally), plus numerous other daemons. I'm actually quite surprised what this computer can handle.
My current desktop is an AMD Athlon running at 800Mhz. It is very chunky, but I think it is more the old IDE disks in it than the processor.
-geoff
On Nov 30, 2004, at 8:58 AM, Matt Shields wrote:
My current server(old gateway desktop) is PII 300 w/ 384MB, running CentOS3.3, w/ apache, mysql, qmail, clamd, spamassassin, Gnome(occassionally), plus numerous other daemons. I'm actually quite surprised what this computer can handle.
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On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:50:51 +0100, Daniel S. Reichenbach dsr@best-off.org wrote:
Hi,
Does anybody have a better picture of what this 'line' is? I.E. Intel 200, 300, 350? AMD 300, 450? Would this be Pentium vs. Pentium II? Perhaps the K6-2 series on the AMD side?
I just installed 3.3 on a Celeron 400 last night. Anyone else?
CentOS 3.3 on a Pentium II with 300 Mhz, a Pentium I with 166 Mhz, one K6 system with 200 Mhz, all working fine, working as little build farm and test suite for development. All systems have at 64MB RAM installed. In the office we do run some systems with CentOS on PII (333) systems with 96MB for daily work. No issues yet. All installed with CentOS 3.1 and upgraded to 3.3. Uptime is now around half a year with around 20 minutes administration after installation for setting up internal yum repo.
Daniel
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One way to help CentOS or any other Linux to run well on lower end systems is to use a lighter weight windowing environment. I've had great luck with Xfce4 instead of GNOME or KDE. Also adding RAM helps alot...
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:41:01 -0800, Geoff Galitz galitz@berkeley.edu wrote:
My current desktop is an AMD Athlon running at 800Mhz. It is very chunky, but I think it is more the old IDE disks in it than the processor.
-geoff
Good point. In fact I used to use blackbox once upon a time. I'll try that out.
-geoff
On Nov 30, 2004, at 10:21 AM, Tim Mattox wrote:
One way to help CentOS or any other Linux to run well on lower end systems is to use a lighter weight windowing environment. I've had great luck with Xfce4 instead of GNOME or KDE. Also adding RAM helps alot...
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:41:01 -0800, Geoff Galitz galitz@berkeley.edu wrote:
My current desktop is an AMD Athlon running at 800Mhz. It is very chunky, but I think it is more the old IDE disks in it than the processor.
-geoff
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Does anybody have a better picture of what this 'line' is? I.E. Intel 200, 300, 350? AMD 300, 450? Would this be Pentium vs. Pentium II? Perhaps the K6-2 series on the AMD side?
I have not done too much testing with CentOS-3 but for CentOS-2, the official line is i686 or better. i686 Is anything from Pentium Pro and up (PII, PIII, P4)
It will not install on other CPU's but that does not necessarily mean it will not run. I build i386 rpms for glibc, openssl, kernel etc so I have successfully installed on a P4 and then put the disk into an AMD K6 (which is equiv. to i586). Newer AMD is prob. OK because they are i686 compatible.
You probably won't be able to do SMP on anything but i686.
I would assume that CentOS-3 is more or less the same.
It is possible to remove the strict requirements in anaconda so you can install onto old hardware but it would require testing to make sure that the correct kernel and rpms are selected. Because they only target i686 they might have takes shortcuts and ignored older archs.
Perhaps if someone was keen they could do that for CentOS 3.4 but that is diverging from the CentOS idea of removing only the trademarks.
John.
Just trying to get a better idea so I don't get any surprises. I do have one old Proliant 3000 with a 300 processor hanging around and doing a fine job of what it is used for. One would never know it is not a latest greatest 8 processor xeon server for what it does. :) It simply needs to be reliable and it is VERY reliable.
Best,
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