Hi,
Does anyone know what is happening with centos 8-Streams kernel? It has been behind RHEL for months now, RHEL8.7 has 4.18.0-425.3.1.el8 built in December and Streams has 4.18.0-408.el8 built all the way back in end October. Is there some policy somewhere that I missed that says that 9 will be now getting the focus or whatnot?
thanks,
On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 3:58 PM Aleksandar Ivanisevic aleksandar.ivanisevic@2e-systems.com wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone know what is happening with centos 8-Streams kernel? It has been behind RHEL for months now, RHEL8.7 has 4.18.0-425.3.1.el8 built in December and Streams has 4.18.0-408.el8 built all the way back in end October. Is there some policy somewhere that I missed that says that 9 will be now getting the focus or whatnot?
No, there's been no change in policy. I'm inquiring about this.
josh
If you want to follow CentOS Stream development, I have two websites that grab CentOS-supplied XML and publish blog entries of updated packages whenever that happens:
https://centos.passthejoe.net/ https://passthejoe.tilde.institute/centos/
Both websites have the same content.
Frustration with CentOS Stream 8 development and security -- especially the kernel -- drove me to create this site so progress in both distros (8 Stream and 9 Stream) would be easier to follow.
Red Hat employees promised that Stream 9 would solve many of the issues that are troubling in Stream 8, and so far that has been true.
On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 12:58 PM Aleksandar Ivanisevic < aleksandar.ivanisevic@2e-systems.com> wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone know what is happening with centos 8-Streams kernel? It has been behind RHEL for months now, RHEL8.7 has 4.18.0-425.3.1.el8 built in December and Streams has 4.18.0-408.el8 built all the way back in end October. Is there some policy somewhere that I missed that says that 9 will be now getting the focus or whatnot?
thanks, _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Heh,
Your sentiments on the website very much mirror my own, although I’m more focused on server applications rather than on desktop (we use Macs and Ubuntu for that). When Red Hat announced Streams, I was terrified at first and my first instinct was to switch to Rocky or a similar 1:1 distro, but then thought there might be something good coming out of the whole ordeal. And indeed it did, we used to run centos on test and RHEL on live systems and having packages (especially kernel) on test a bit in front of the live systems (instead of a bit behind like with the old centos) turned out to be very useful. We were able to catch a nasty lockup bug in a series of kernels around RHEL 8.6, report it, follow its resolution, and although Red Hat did end up releasing an official RHEL kernel with the bug for whatever reason, we were able to avoid it in production, and all was good. Exactly what you want from a distro like Streams. Exactly what Red Hat would expect to get from a distro like Streams, right?
However, now that streams kernel has been behind RHEL for months, I begin to wonder, is it a symptom of something? What? Change of direction or simple lack of resources (recession and quiet quitting and all that jazz)? Is it time to switch to the old way (i.e. Rocky) again?
On 7. Jan 2023, at 20:05, Steven Rosenberg passthejoe@gmail.com wrote:
If you want to follow CentOS Stream development, I have two websites that grab CentOS-supplied XML and publish blog entries of updated packages whenever that happens:
https://centos.passthejoe.net/ https://passthejoe.tilde.institute/centos/
Both websites have the same content.
Frustration with CentOS Stream 8 development and security -- especially the kernel -- drove me to create this site so progress in both distros (8 Stream and 9 Stream) would be easier to follow.
Red Hat employees promised that Stream 9 would solve many of the issues that are troubling in Stream 8, and so far that has been true.
On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 12:58 PM Aleksandar Ivanisevic < aleksandar.ivanisevic@2e-systems.com> wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone know what is happening with centos 8-Streams kernel? It has been behind RHEL for months now, RHEL8.7 has 4.18.0-425.3.1.el8 built in December and Streams has 4.18.0-408.el8 built all the way back in end October. Is there some policy somewhere that I missed that says that 9 will be now getting the focus or whatnot?
thanks, _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On 1/7/23 13:41, Aleksandar Ivanisevic wrote:
Heh,
Your sentiments on the website very much mirror my own, although I’m more focused on server applications rather than on desktop (we use Macs and Ubuntu for that). When Red Hat announced Streams, I was terrified at first and my first instinct was to switch to Rocky or a similar 1:1 distro, but then thought there might be something good coming out of the whole ordeal. And indeed it did, we used to run centos on test and RHEL on live systems and having packages (especially kernel) on test a bit in front of the live systems (instead of a bit behind like with the old centos) turned out to be very useful. We were able to catch a nasty lockup bug in a series of kernels around RHEL 8.6, report it, follow its resolution, and although Red Hat did end up releasing an official RHEL kernel with the bug for whatever reason, we were able to avoid it in production, and all was good. Exactly what you want from a distro like Streams. Exactly what Red Hat would expect to get from a distro like Streams, right?
However, now that streams kernel has been behind RHEL for months, I begin to wonder, is it a symptom of something? What? Change of direction or simple lack of resources (recession and quiet quitting and all that jazz)? Is it time to switch to the old way (i.e. Rocky) again?
One thing to note is, we are currently working on moving the c8s process to use the same workflow as the c9s process. That will happen later this year. Right now, I only build what releases to git.centos.org for the c8s branch for the kernel. They are looking to get me a new kernel now.
On 7. Jan 2023, at 20:05, Steven Rosenberg passthejoe@gmail.com wrote:
If you want to follow CentOS Stream development, I have two websites that grab CentOS-supplied XML and publish blog entries of updated packages whenever that happens:
https://centos.passthejoe.net/ https://passthejoe.tilde.institute/centos/
Both websites have the same content.
Frustration with CentOS Stream 8 development and security -- especially the kernel -- drove me to create this site so progress in both distros (8 Stream and 9 Stream) would be easier to follow.
Red Hat employees promised that Stream 9 would solve many of the issues that are troubling in Stream 8, and so far that has been true.
On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 12:58 PM Aleksandar Ivanisevic < aleksandar.ivanisevic@2e-systems.com> wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone know what is happening with centos 8-Streams kernel? It has been behind RHEL for months now, RHEL8.7 has 4.18.0-425.3.1.el8 built in December and Streams has 4.18.0-408.el8 built all the way back in end October. Is there some policy somewhere that I missed that says that 9 will be now getting the focus or whatnot?
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 7:34 AM Johnny Hughes johnny@centos.org wrote:
One thing to note is, we are currently working on moving the c8s process to use the same workflow as the c9s process. That will happen later this year. Right now, I only build what releases to git.centos.org for the c8s branch for the kernel. They are looking to get me a new kernel now.
Excellent news! Thank you.
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 5:43 PM Steven Rosenberg passthejoe@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 7:34 AM Johnny Hughes johnny@centos.org wrote:
One thing to note is, we are currently working on moving the c8s process to use the same workflow as the c9s process. That will happen later this year. Right now, I only build what releases to git.centos.org for the c8s branch for the kernel. They are looking to get me a new kernel now.
Excellent news! Thank you.
In the meantime, an updated kernel is now available in the CentOS Stream 8 repositories. Thank you to the team for working through that.
josh
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