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    Problem is an 'old' ver of chrony:<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/02/2015 11:01 AM, Robert
      Moskowitz wrote:<br>
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      This is not working on a new mSD with only chrony installed and
      the changes listed below.<br>
      <br>
      It works on F22 'out of the box' with these changes.<br>
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    From the Fedora-arm list:<br>
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    =======<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/02/2015 11:41 AM, Miroslav
      Lichvar wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote cite="mid:20150902154114.GC29274@localhost" type="cite">In
      RHEL7 is currently chrony-1.29 which doesn't have the no RTC
      fallback with the -s option. You might want to wait for 7.2, which
      likely will have chrony-2.1.1.
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    =======<br>
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      Got to get this working...<br>
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    <br>
    So can we have chrony-2.1.1 ???  Please  :)<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/02/2015 08:56 AM, Robert
        Moskowitz wrote:<br>
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        On the Fedora-arm list I learned that chronyd and
        systemd-timesyncd conflict.  F22 is using chronyd with
        systemd-timesyncd not enabled.  To get chronyd to set the system
        time based on the last boot you need:<br>
        <br>
        In /etc/sysconfig/chronyd<br>
        OPTIONS="-s"<br>
        <br>
        and /etc/chrony.conf<br>
        #rtcsync<br>
        rtcdevice /dev/nonexist<br>
        <br>
        shortly after boot if no network connection, your system time is
        set to the last content in /var/lib/chrony/drift<br>
        <br>
        So please add chronyd to the minimal install and set it with
        these 'defaults', or provide an easy way to configure for 'no
        rtc'.<br>
        <br>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/01/2015 11:29 PM, Robert
          Moskowitz wrote:<br>
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          The archlinux wiki says this should work at boot even without
          a network connection but it is not.  Perhaps there is some
          extra steps to set this up right?<br>
          <br>
          If not, is this a bug?  Not supprising that the Intel based
          testing did not see this, as how many Intel boxes do not have
          an rtc?  Only those with dead batteries...<br>
          <br>
          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/01/2015 01:46 PM, Robert
            Moskowitz wrote:<br>
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            I just did a test, as timedatectl indicates that ntp is on. 
            It did not set the time on reboot.  It is not doing that
            auto stuff mentioned in the description.  :(<br>
            <br>
            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/01/2015 01:39 PM, Robert
              Moskowitz wrote:<br>
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              Oh, I should have read further down the page of: <a
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                href="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd-timesyncd"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd-timesyncd">https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd-timesyncd</a></a><br>
              <br>
              ....<br>
              <br>
              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/01/2015 01:38 PM,
                Robert Moskowitz wrote:<br>
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                Again, this requires the network to be up?<br>
                <br>
                I use timedatectl to set my timezone, will look more
                into it.  Could be all is rolled together...<br>
                <br>
                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/01/2015 01:35 PM,
                  Nicolas Repentin wrote:<br>
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                  cite="mid:786737858.2.1441128911297.JavaMail.nicolas@shivaserv.fr"
                  type="cite">
                  <p>Don't know.. I saw this on the web<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                  </p>
                  <p>Centos 7 use systemd. I suggest you use it.<br>
                    <br>
                  </p>
                  <p>Use the command <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/timedatectl.html">timedatectl</a><br>
                    <br>
                  </p>
                  <p>Enable network time synchronization:<br>
                    <br>
                  </p>
                  <p>timedatectl set-ntp True<br>
                  </p>
                  <p><br>
                    <br>
                  </p>
                  <p><br>
                  </p>
                  <p>Create a conf file:<br>
                    <br>
                  </p>
                  <p>vi /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf<br>
                  </p>
                  <p><br>
                    <br>
                  </p>
                  <p><br>
                  </p>
                  <p>with content like this:<br>
                    <br>
                  </p>
                  <p>[Time]<br>
                    <br>
                  </p>
                  <p>NTP= yourserver.org<br>
                  </p>
                  <p><br>
                    <br>
                  </p>
                  <p><br>
                  </p>
                  <p>Start systemd-timedated service:<br>
                    <br>
                  </p>
                  <p>systemctl start systemd-timedated<br>
                  </p>
                  <p><br>
                    <br>
                  </p>
                  <p><br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                  </p>
                  <p>Nicolas Repentin<br>
                  </p>
                  <p><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                      href="mailto:nicolas@shivaserv.fr">&lt;nicolas@shivaserv.fr&gt;</a><br>
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                      <b>From</b>: Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com><br>
                        <b>To</b>: Conversations around CentOS on ARM
                        hardware <arm-dev@centos.org><br>
                          <b>Date</b>: Tue Sep 01 19:26:49 GMT+02:00
                          2015<br>
                          <b>Subject</b>: Re: [Arm-dev] Re: System time<br>
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                    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/01/2015 01:15 PM,
                      Nicolas Repentin wrote:<br>
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                      cite="mid:625033636.2.1441127759342.JavaMail.nicolas@shivaserv.fr"
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                      <p>Oh, I did know about systemd-timesyncd, need to
                        check about it :-)<br>
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                    Can't find it in the repo, what provides it?<br>
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                      <p><br>
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                      <p>Nicolas Repentin<br>
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                          href="mailto:nicolas@shivaserv.fr">&lt;nicolas@shivaserv.fr&gt;</a><br>
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                          <b>From</b>: Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com><br>
                            <b>To</b>: Conversations around CentOS on
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                              <b>Date</b>: Tue Sep 01 19:04:38 GMT+02:00
                              2015<br>
                              <b>Subject</b>: Re: [Arm-dev] System time<br>
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                        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/01/2015 12:16
                          PM, Nicolas wrote:<br>
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                          cite="mid:42c5b20b.1441124088412@shiva.shivaserv.fr"
                          type="cite">Hello<br>
                          <br>
                          I don't think any armv7 board like cubie has a
                          battery to backup clock<br>
                          I think ntpd is the only way, and seems to
                          work well on my bpi with c7. I will check if
                          dns resolution works when date is 1970.<br>
                          <br>
                          I think setting the currenttime can be a good
                          idea on the rbf tool :-)</blockquote>
                        <br>
                        On the Fedora-arm list I was pointed to
                        Systemd-timesyncd<br>
                        <br>
                        This does MOST of what I want.  All that I think
                        needs to be added is for it to be enabled in the
                        image and a initial date/time of the image built
                        date be there so the firstboot has a decent
                        time.<br>
                        <br>
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                            Nicolas Repentin<br>
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                          <div class="profimail-cite-prefix">Le 1
                            septembre 2015 18:12, Robert Moskowitz a
                            écrit:<br>
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                          <blockquote type="cite">How is system time set
                            at boot?  Is ntpdate run after the network
                            is <br>
                            ready?  How long does it retry waiting for
                            the network to be available? <br>
                            <br>
                            I have seen a number of challenges becuase
                            the system time is back at <br>
                            the epoch start as there is no battery rtc. 
                            And  I wonder how many <br>
                            armv7 boards have a battery to maintain time
                            across boots? <br>
                            <br>
                            Minimally, a process could right the time,
                            in the proper format, to a <br>
                            file, say /etc/currenttime every 5 min and
                            at shutdown. <br>
                            <br>
                            Then date can be run early in the boot
                            process, piping this file in.  It <br>
                            would not be perfect and does not help, much
                            for new installs, but <br>
                            better than epoch start. <br>
                            <br>
                            Plus /etc/currenttime can be at least set to
                            the image build date/time <br>
                            so not even firstboot will be at epoch
                            start. <br>
                            <br>
                            Opinions? <br>
                            <br>
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