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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/25/2015 11:18 AM, Troy Dawson
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          <div>Hi,<br>
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          Have you looked at the pcduino3 nano lite.<br>
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        $15 and it looks like it meets all your specs.<br>
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            <div>It has everything in the kernel and uboot and works
              with Fedora 23 with no modifications.<br>
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            <div>I've got Yor Linux armv7 build working on it, so I'm
              quite certain it will work with CentOS arm build, but I
              have not tested it.<br>
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            <div>There are two downsides to this board.<br>
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            <div>1 - the sata (and power cable) are sold separately<br>
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    I looked at this when it was earlier mentioned here and did not see
    a sata on it, so dropped it.  can you point me to the sata board?  I
    would have to see how it compares to the Cubieboard2.<br>
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            <div>2 - It has the worst name I can think of.<br>
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    It is kind of funky.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 5:33 AM, Robert
          Moskowitz <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:rgm@htt-consult.com" target="_blank">rgm@htt-consult.com</a>&gt;</span>
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            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">The
            features that have attracted me to ARMv7 are:<br>
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            1) Power consumption<br>
            <br>
            My ROI on power savings was 15 mo. with the Cubieboards over
            my current Intel SFF boxes.  And along with that is lower
            UPS requirements and heating.  I have 5 boards, plus drives
            powered from one USB power supply.<br>
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            2) Board size<br>
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            With boards the same or smaller than a 25" drive, I truly
            have an appliance that can be placed anywhere.<br>
            <br>
            Now there are few ARMv7 boards that meet my exacting
            requirements: 1 or 2 MB ram (depending on appl), 2+ core,
            and SATA interface.<br>
            <br>
            If all I have is USB, then I get the USB/SATA adapter cost
            and powering thrown into the equation.  Also a board that
            has been moved into the mainline kernel and distro support. 
            RPi stands out as being a pain.  4-port LAN features require
            kernel customization.<br>
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            I was talking with one manufacture that was meeting my main
            req at $15/board.  But they went for a mass-market target
            and dropped the DIY one.  I will be talking to them again
            next month. But their board is not in the general sunxi
            effort.  Yet.
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                On 12/25/2015 01:33 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:<br>
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                  The big problems I have with the majority of the
                  development boards are:<br>
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                  1) Memory<br>
                  On 32-bit ARM, the RAM was always limited to 4GB,
                  which would be find if there were a significant number
                  of devices available that ship with 4GB of RAM (minus
                  the various necessary memory holes). But that simply
                  isn't the case. I can think of hundreds of devices
                  with &lt;= 1GB of RAM. I can think of only about 4
                  with 3-4GB of RAM (of which at least 2 are deprecated
                  and unavailable), including ARMv8 which is not limited
                  to 4GB. And two of those four are laptops.<br>
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                  2) Memory Type<br>
                  We've been being told since forever that the main
                  reason why ARM devices don't come with DIMM sockets is
                  because they are 32-bit and DIMMs have 64 data lines.
                  Well, with ARMv8 we have those 64 data lines, and yet
                  there are precious few devices available featuring
                  DIMM sockets for memory. There are in fact probably
                  more dev boards in SODIMM form factor than there are
                  those featuring DIMM memory sockets.<br>
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                  3) Board Form Factor<br>
                  There are painfully few ARM boards in *TX form factor.
                  Off the top of my head I can think of a total of 5, of
                  which one is positively ancient and probably no longer
                  available (Atmel, IIRC), one is deprecated, the
                  manufacturer of the 3rd appears to have gone bust, one
                  is on the underpowered side (VIA APC) and the 5th is
                  exorbitantly expensive (at €800 there is no incentive
                  at all to buy an ARM board instead of a much more
                  powerful, more fully featured and better supported
                  Xeon board).<br>
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                  Worse, these variously deficient devices aren't
                  exactly cheap, either (well, apart from the Raspberry
                  Pis). I find the lack of supply of boards with
                  sensible features quite thoroughly baffling,
                  especially since the rock bottom features (if they cut
                  any more corners they'd be perfect spheres) don't
                  match the relatively high prices.<br>
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                  Instead of leveraging decades of industry
                  standardization on the basics such as memory sockets,
                  form factor (including power supplies), almost every
                  ARM board manufacturer seems to be intent on
                  reinventing their own wheels, and doing a pretty poor
                  job of it, even though these problems have been
                  thoroughly solved for decades.<br>
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                  Not that I think any manufacturers are listening...<br>
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                  Gordan<br>
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                  On 24/12/15 21:20, Robert Moskowitz wrote:<br>
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                    On 12/23/2015 07:45 PM, miniNodes Info wrote:<br>
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                      The Lenovator HiKey board Jim mentioned can be
                      found here:<br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.lenovator.com/product/90.html"
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                      That is a 2gb RAM, 8gb eMMC,<br>
                      8-core ARM64 board.<br>
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                    No sata for all that power.<br>
                    And draws a lot more power too.<br>
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                    I will continue to wait to see what the Cubietruck
                    plus will be and how<br>
                    much.  They put out the blog on it back in July. 
                    And then Hans will<br>
                    have to get one to make the uboot for it...<br>
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                        They also offer a 1gb RAM version as well:<br>
                      &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.lenovator.com/product/86.html</a>&gt;<a
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                        href="http://www.lenovator.com/product/86.html"
                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.lenovator.com/product/86.html">http://www.lenovator.com/product/86.html</a></a>
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                      Also worth mentioning, the Qualcomm Dragonboard
                      410c finally has been<br>
                      restocked and has availability now, located here:<br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.arrow.com/en/products/dragonboard410c/arrow-development-tools#page-1"
                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.arrow.com/en/products/dragonboard410c/arrow-development-tools#page-1</a>
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                    Even less in terms of interfaces.<br>
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                      The URL for the PINE64 board is simply<br>
                      &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://pine64.com" rel="noreferrer"
                        target="_blank">http://pine64.com</a>&gt;<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://pine64.com"
                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://pine64.com">http://pine64.com</a></a>. 
                      That product is still being<br>
                      developed and funded via Kickstarter, so there is
                      no general<br>
                      availability on that one quite yet.<br>
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                    So, for now, I will stay with the armv7.<br>
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