<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 5 Dec 2016, at 16:38, Jim Perrin <<a href="mailto:jperrin@centos.org" class="">jperrin@centos.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">I haven't put much futher effort/consideration into the hikey. I need to</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">look at it again more closely to see how much they've managed to get</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">into the upstream kernel, or what it would take to add support to the</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">4.5 based kernel coming in the 7.3.1611 build.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>OK, thanks. I didn't get past sticking hi6220 in Google and randomly clicking on <a href="https://github.com/96boards-hikey/linux" class="">https://github.com/96boards-hikey/linux</a>.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">While I can't promise anything yet, we should also have a patchset</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">coming that would enable 64bit support for the rpi3 for everything</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">except graphics. The upstream graphics driver isn't as stable as I'd</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">like so I'm looking at restricting that to console only for now.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>I thought rpi3 was a non-starter because of missing firmware. Maybe I remembered that wrong. I’m not interested in graphics, so that is a possibility.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">On 12/04/2016 09:27 AM, Nick Hardiman wrote:</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">I was on the verge of buying a couple small SBCs back in September, to<br class="">install CentOS on. But then I stopped to concentrate on my RHCE exam.<br class="">Now I’m trying to pick up where I left off.<br class=""><br class="">I remember Uli Middleburg said Odroid C2 was not far off having all<br class="">device drivers in the mainline kernel.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">How’s kernel support for the LeMaker HiKey? Have things moved on since<br class="">Jim Perrin wrote these build instructions?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><a href="https://people.centos.org/jperrin/hikey/ReadMe.txt" class="">https://people.centos.org/jperrin/hikey/ReadMe.txt</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 19 Sep 2016, at 18:25, Nick Hardiman <nick@internetmachines.co.uk<br class=""><<a href="mailto:nick@internetmachines.co.uk" class="">mailto:nick@internetmachines.co.uk</a>>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 18 Sep 2016, at 18:55, Jeffrey Walton <<a href="mailto:noloader@gmail.com" class="">noloader@gmail.com</a><br class=""><<a href="mailto:noloader@gmail.com" class="">mailto:noloader@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">There are four small ARMv8 dev-boards I am aware. I have all of them<br class="">for testing software. They are:<br class=""><br class="">* LeMaker HiKey (Aarch64, ASIMD, CRC, Crypto)<br class="">* Pine64 (Aarch64, ASIMD, CRC, Crypto)<br class="">* ODROID-C2 (Aarch64, ASIMD, CRC)<br class="">* Raspberry Pi-3 (Armhf (not even Aarch32))<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Good summary, thanks.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">I would avoid the RPI3. Its in a crummy configuration, and mine died<br class="">after about 2 weeks.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">That’s a shocker. I will strike the RPi from my list of possibles -<br class="">seems a shame. I wonder how durable the others are.<br class=""><br class="">What I want to do here is find out if these are useful for offloading<br class="">simple services - maybe one per board. I don’t know the advantages of<br class="">a set of small, physically discrete, devices running a set of<br class="">services, and I’d like to find out. I know they’d be a trainwreck for<br class="">a customer-facing dynamically generated website. But what about NTP?<br class="">True randomness maybe? How would they handle generating Kerberos<br class="">tickets, or providing service discovery? Does XEN slow them down to a<br class="">crawl? Can they generate synthetic load, and monitor the results? No idea.<br class=""><br class="">I may be barking up the wrong tree here. If UEFI is the way forward, I<br class="">don’t imagine a distro-maintained kernel package will ever be supplied<br class="">for any of these consumer-size boards. So there’s no avoiding u-boot<br class="">tinkering, /boot/ copying or kernel compiling when dealing with<br class="">consumer boards like these. Does that sound right?<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">At the higher end, there are two servers I am aware. I believe the<br class="">Applied Micro X-gene is the Mustang board.<br class=""><br class="">* Mustang board (early ones lack CRC and Crypto)<br class="">* Overdrive 1000 (AMD ARMv8 processor)<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I searched for the Gigabyte MP30-AR0 after Gordan described it. It’s<br class="">not right for my pet project here, but I can see the appeal for the<br class="">day job. And if this 32 core X-Gene3 appears, maybe that will be a lot<br class="">of bang for your buck.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">The Overdrive never arrived (more<br class="">correctly, it never shipped), and I'm trying to get a refund on the<br class="">purchase.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Sorry to hear that. Sounds like there are more of these bigger boards<br class="">on the way - Lenovator Cello maybe?<br class=""><br class="">I don’t know about Cavium, and AMD's Seattle chipsets.<br class=""><br class="">Thanks for the help. 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