[CentOS-devel] CentOS 5.7 has no centos-release-cr package

Kevin Stange kevin at steadfast.net
Wed Sep 28 05:16:49 EDT 2011


On 09/28/2011 04:09 AM, Xavier Bachelot wrote:
> On 09/28/2011 10:39 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>> Време: 09/28/2011 10:31 AM, Xavier Bachelot пише:
>>> On 09/23/2011 10:25 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>>>> On 09/22/2011 08:16 PM, Ben Galliart wrote:
>>>>> On 09/17/2011, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Now back to the question on hand, centos-release-cr in 5.7..
>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps the best place for the centos-release-cr is in the updates/
>>>>>> repo, rather than the /cr/ repo, since that way it would further reduce
>>>>>> the barrier for people to opt-in, a simple 'yum install
>>>>>> centos-releae-cr' would get them on the track, and keep them there till
>>>>>> such time as they want to opt-out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any ETA as to when this could be done or at least decided on?
>>>>
>>>> There is no need to upgrade anything.  If you installed the package, you
>>>> are on CR ... then and now.
>>>>
>>>> The CentOS-CR repo points to /5/cr/ (which is 5.7 now and was 5.6 when
>>>> the repo file was released).
>>>>
>>>> It (/cr/) is currently empty because 5.7/os and 5.7/updates contain all
>>>> the RPMS that are required to update from 5.6 (or any other version of
>>>> CentOS).
>>>>
>>>> When 5.8 is released, the RPMs that are part of 5.8 will get put into
>>>> the /5.7/cr/ and allow people who are opted in to get the updates before
>>>> the 5.8 release.
>>>>
>>>> I think maybe putting the RPM in "extras", so it is easier to install is
>>>> doable ... but not a huge issue.
>>>>
>>>> In fact, I have put it there.  centos-release-cr is now in extras.
>>>>
>>> What's the reasoning for putting centos-release-cr in the extras repo ?
>>> Imho, the package would fit better in either the updates or cr
>>> repositories (with a preference for the later), because these 2 repos
>>> allows to get upstream updates and only that, while extras carries a lot
>>> of packages not coming from upstream. Providing a repository yum
>>> configuration from within said repository is quite usual for other repos
>>> and it looks strange to have to use one repo to get the conf for another.
>>>
>>
>> Base repos must reflect what upstream is publishing. Thus, any extra
>> packages must go elswhere.
>>
> This package is special, as it provides only yum confs and no binaries 
> or anything else, and is needed to actually get the updates upstream is 
> publishing. To be a bit bold, this is not different than the 
> centos-release package, which is not in extras either.
> Actually, the cr repo definition could just be added to the 
> centos-release package, possibly disabled by default.

No, no, no, why do we want to sabotage CR?  Why does everyone hate it so
much?

If it's going to be in the base release file and disabled by default,
now we make it even harder, instead of (easy) "yum install" or (less
easy) wget into proper place, now you're saying users are going to need
to edit files or use "yum --enablerepo" to get updates.

This is an important repo with security patches that could otherwise be
months delayed.  This should not be something hidden from users.

I still think it should be opt-out, but I can accept that it is not in
the mission to break individual release compatibility with upstream by
default.  Let's NOT intentionally make it harder to install this,
please, please.

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