[CentOS-devel] [REQUEST] Create the CentOS Hosting SIG

Manuel Wolfshant wolfy at nobugconsulting.ro
Fri Jan 10 23:42:38 UTC 2014


On 01/10/2014 08:09 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Lars Kellogg-Stedman <lars at redhat.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 05:59:14PM +0200, Manuel Wolfshant wrote:
>>>> see more CentOS and less Debian in that space, as the default CentOS
>>>> Apache httpd configs are a lot saner. ;-)
>>> but the enable/disable vhosts in ubuntu is much easier
>> Increasingly off topic here, but seriously, *this*.
> (While still off topic) So, who can stop Ubuntu's outrageous growth?
>
> http://w3techs.com/technologies/history_details/os-linux/all/q
As long as on arm
- despite Hansg's efforts, fedora is nothing but a toy ( I might be 
mistaken but NO board that I know of has proper graphics support in 
Fedora ),
- centos does not exist (redsleeve tries its best but unless you know 
from the start what you were looking for you need to look hard for it in 
order to find references),
- debian (cubian, cubieez ) sticks with old packages,
ubuntu and derivatives (linaro being the most prominent example but 
xubuntu, mint, voyager and others exist ) will rule . Unless arch or 
gentoo come strongly from behind, which I sincerely doubt ( and hope 
that will not happen)

and in the web-hosting business, debian and ubuntu erode strongly the 
former centos/RHEL market. maybe introduction of SCL will change 
something but I doubt. people look at the versions, they see that there 
is no straight forward support for Shiny.New.2015 and look somewhere 
else. Very very few analyze if a) they really need that new version b) 
if that version can be used in RHEL/CentOS. Leaving aside that there is 
also a logic in "I do not need the shiny version now but I might need 
tomorrow. Why bother installing centos and an old version when I can go 
straight to Ubuntu and the new one?"

but, last but not least .. are we really in a competition ? I sincerely 
do not care [too] much which distro (or even unix flavor) is used as 
long as a) it's opensource and b) allows me to preserve my sanity while 
doing maintenance ( there are 2-3 distros which do not qualify )



wolfy "pfsense + carp or not ?"



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