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On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 17:10 +0000, Karanbir Singh wrote:
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Rex Dieter wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Karanbir Singh wrote:</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> Matthew Miller wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>>> On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 04:36:52PM +0000, Karanbir Singh wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>>>> EPEL is interesting and it has a lot of potential, but the fact that</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>>>> they only care about, build for and expect usage on RHEL tends to sort</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>>>> of exclude a lot of external participation in the project. So much so</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>>>> that a @redhat person said that the only aim they have in pushing epel</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>>>> is to they can go tell their customers about it!!</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>>> I don't think this is quite fair. At the FUDCon discussion I was at,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">>>> there was considerable interest in working on -- and with -- CentOS.</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">>> This is based on what was told to us at Fosdem 2007.</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">> You were told or heard wrong. (:</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">We were told this in very exact terms, wasent much room for any form of </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">interpretation. I am sure you can imagine this wasent taken very </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">quietly. But, well, this is what we were told.</FONT>
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A few selected quotes from the EPEL Wiki pages:<BR>
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<A HREF="http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/About">http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/About</A><BR>
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<B><FONT SIZE="5">Goals of the EPEL effort</FONT></B><BR>
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Make high quality packages that get developed and tested in Fedora available for RHEL and compatible derivates like CentOS of [sic] Scientific Linux.<BR>
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<B><FONT SIZE="4">Community Perspective</FONT></B><BR>
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Many members of the Fedora community are also users/administrators of enterprise Linux distributions that are derived from Fedora, such as RHEL and <B>CentOS</B>. Everyone has their own reasons for promoting a particular piece of software. Fedora enterprise packages are they best way to gain users and support from enterprise Linux users. <BR>
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<A HREF="http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ">http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/FAQ</A><BR>
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<B><FONT SIZE="4">Are EPEL packages available only for RHEL or also for compatible derivatives?</FONT></B><BR>
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Packages are freely available and it is an explicit goal of the project to make sure they are usable for RHEL-based distributions such as <B>CentOS</B> or Scientific Linux.<BR>
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<B><FONT SIZE="4">How can I install the packages?</FONT></B><BR>
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The plan is to distribute <B>EPEL</B> to users of RHEL4 via a repository that can be used with up2date. <B>CentOS</B> and Scientific Linux both use yum, which should be able to use the same software repository and thus can be used to install <B>EPEL</B> packages.<BR>
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<B><FONT SIZE="4">I'm an Extras contributor and want to maintain my packages in EPEL, too. What do I have to do and what do you expect from me?</FONT></B><BR>
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For testing the packages before and after building please use RHEL if you have a license, or the freely available RHEL-based distros such as <B>CentOS</B> or Scientific Linux.<BR>
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<B><FONT SIZE="4">What's the best package to build for EPEL4?</FONT></B><BR>
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<B><A HREF="http://centos.karan.org/">centos</A></B><A HREF="http://centos.karan.org/">.karan.org</A> rebuild a lot of FC-3 packages for <B>CentOS</B> 4 -- these packages and/or the FC-3 branch of Fedora Extras is a good stating point for <B>EPEL</B>4 packages.<BR>
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Perhaps the listened to the feedback, and/or not everybody was on-message. They seem to be very welcoming of rebuild users, and even complementary of efforts like karan.org.<BR>
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Phil<BR>
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