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      With the expansion of scope, SIGs via variants can now do all
      this, newer kernels etc.<br>
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      welcome to the new world.<br>
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      On 02/25/2014 07:49 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:zf@ancientrocklab.com">zf@ancientrocklab.com</a> wrote:<br>
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      <div class="">I also Using debian. They have official backports
        packages team.<br>
        Which ship new kernel, latest software upgrade for debian stable
        released.<br>
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        CentOS lacks of latest kernel, latest software upgrade.<br>
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        EPEL and elrepo enhanced CentOS. <br>
        But there be bad side. <br>
        They were not ship by CentOS community officially.<br>
        Which means their project may discontinued in any time.<br>
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        Why Debian do their best provided us the backports packages?<br>
        Enhanced the debian environment.The sad side is CentOS community
        Lack of vision.<br>
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        No responsibility, no future<br>
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            <div><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:jperrin@centos.org">Jim Perrin</a></div>
            <div><b>Date:</b> 2014-02-26 08:13</div>
            <div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:centos-devel@centos.org">The CentOS
                developers mailing list.</a></div>
            <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CentOS-devel] Is it possible to
              merge elrepo.org contribute to centos main repository?</div>
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                <div style="font-size: 22px;">On 02/25/2014 03:32 PM,
                  Akemi Yagi wrote:</div>
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                <div style="font-size: 22px;">> What Les meant was
                  the inclusion of the xxx-release packages in the</div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;">> distribution. Those
                  package would not be installed by default, but</div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;">> will be just one yum
                  command away:</div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;">> </div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;">> yum install
                  elrepo-release</div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;">> </div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;">> or</div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;">> </div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;">> yum install
                  epel-release</div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;">> </div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;">> Scientific Linux has
                  them and that makes it easy for users to install</div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;">> those repos if/when
                  they want them.</div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;"> </div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;"> </div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;">In the past, we had
                  specifically avoided doing this for a few reasons:</div>
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                <div style="font-size: 22px;">1. We didn't want to be
                  accused of playing favorites with 3rd party repos</div>
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                <div style="font-size: 22px;">2. We didn't want the
                  expectation of support ("I didn't add anything to</div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;">the default centos, I just
                  yum-installed it!")</div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;"> </div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;">3. We didn't want to ship
                  code that wasn't built/signed by us.</div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;"> </div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;"> </div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;">Given the new structure,
                  it may be worth having this conversation again.</div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;">Thoughts from the
                  community?</div>
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                <div style="font-size: 22px;">-- </div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;">Jim Perrin</div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;">The CentOS Project | <a
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                <div style="font-size: 22px;">twitter: @BitIntegrity |
                  GPG Key: FA09AD77</div>
                <div style="font-size: 22px;">_______________________________________________</div>
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