<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hi Johnny,<br><br></div>Are the build systems you guys are working on available to the public? Checked in somewhere we can check out and/or potentially contribute to?<br>cheers,<br></div>Masoud<br>
<div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Johnny Hughes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johnny@centos.org" target="_blank">johnny@centos.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On 03/03/2014 08:23 AM, Tom McManus wrote:<br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> Apologies if this topic is covered elsewhere. Will CentOS wait for the<br>
> release of RHEL7 or will it start work on betas<br>
<br>
</div></div>The CentOS team is building the Beta packages so that we have the<br>
packages available for future use, can find any issues building them,<br>
and look for branding issues, etc. ... however we feel that it is<br>
counterproductive to release anything to the public.<br>
<br>
The reasons are:<br>
<br>
1. RHEL 7 Beta is free to download and anyone who wants to get it can<br>
do so. The CentOS team highly recommends any interested parties download<br>
and test RHEL 7 Beta following Red Hat's announcement and guidelines.<br>
<br>
2. RHEL 7 beta is "beta quality" and Red Hat wants the public to<br>
download and test it and provide feedback to get issues fixed before the<br>
actually RHEL 7.0 GA release. If you want to make CentOS-7 better,<br>
download and test RHEL-7 Beta and provide feedback to Red Hat to fix as<br>
many issues as possible before they release.<br>
<br>
3. The CentOS team feels that adding potential problems from our<br>
building of packages that may not be present in the released RHEL 7 Beta<br>
is counterproductive and possibly dilutes the upstream beta process.<br>
<br>
4. The CentOS team does not want to act as the middle man to the actual<br>
reporting of incidents that might happen if we release a rebuild of RHEL<br>
7 Beta. That is, people report things to us about our beta that should<br>
have instead been reported to Red Hat and those issues somehow get lost<br>
in the process.<br>
<br>
=====<br>
<br>
So, while we are not planning to release a rebuild of the Beta's at this<br>
time, we will be building and saving beta packages and creating our<br>
build processes/system to ensure we can get CentOS-7.0 built and<br>
released quickly. Any packages we get built during these processes that<br>
do not change are things we don't have to build later. Any problems we<br>
solve, even for packages that change during the beta process, may be<br>
relevant to newer packages that come out in the beta process, so will<br>
still likely help us.<br>
<br>
I can not stress it enough ... CentOS users who want to help should<br>
download and test the RHEL 7 Betas and provide feedback for any problems<br>
to Red Hat so CentOS-7.0 can happen faster and be better quality when we<br>
release it.<br>
<br>
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