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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/26/2014 07:22 PM, Jeff Sheltren
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:02 AM,
            Stephen John Smoogen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                    <div>Here is out current minimal kickstart package
                      list. We use this as the basics to get a box
                      installable from the ground up with everything
                      else needed afterwords. There is still a lot of
                      bike-shedding here: (postfix vs sendmail, remove
                      prelink, biosdevname, etc) but it comes out to
                      about 353 packages and a disk usage of 888 MB.
                      Ansible and yum gets the rest for us.&nbsp;</div>
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                    <div>%packages --nobase</div>
                    <div>acpid</div>
                    <div>authconfig</div>
                    <div>bash-completion</div>
                    <div>bind-utils</div>
                    <div>-biosdevname</div>
                    <div>-cronie-anacron</div>
                    <div>cronie-noanacron</div>
                    <div>crontabs</div>
                    <div>dhclient</div>
                    <div>iptables-services</div>
                    <div>-iwl*</div>
                    <div>-libertas*</div>
                    <div>-logwatch</div>
                    <div>mailx</div>
                    <div>nfs-utils</div>
                    <div>nmap-ncat</div>
                    <div>ntp</div>
                    <div>ntpdate</div>
                    <div>openssh-clients</div>
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                      openssh-server</div>
                    <div>patch</div>
                    <div>postfix</div>
                    <div>-prelink</div>
                    <div>rsync</div>
                    <div>screen</div>
                    <div>telnet</div>
                    <div>tmpwatch</div>
                    <div>traceroute</div>
                    <div>-sendmail</div>
                    <div>-sendmail-cf</div>
                    <div>strace</div>
                    <div>tmux</div>
                    <div>vim-enhanced</div>
                    <div>yum</div>
                    <div>yum-utils</div>
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          Stephen, thanks for sharing! &nbsp;In my opinion I'd say "minimal"
          doesn't need things like: mailx, nfs-utils, patch, rsync,
          screen, telnet, traceroute, strace, tmux. &nbsp;vim-enhanced I
          personally would like to include, but it's not really minimal.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">Just throwing that out there for
          discussion. &nbsp;I don't have a strong disagreement with your list
          -- although 888M does seem to be getting kind of large.&nbsp; <br>
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    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Let's define some ground rules first.<br>
    - As has been stated before ( and decided in the 6.3=&gt; 6.4
    transition era ) what will be called " minimal.iso" will reflect the
    @core group AND include all the hardware support<br>
    - What we can debate upon is an older proposal which came on IRC and
    which I mentioned in my previous message, that is a "micro.iso". My
    target is knowledgeable people who would want a quick server setup
    and would push anyway afterwards whatever they needed depending on
    the purpose of the machine, With this in mind,&nbsp; from my point of
    view this one would be really minimal with just the needed stuff&nbsp; to
    have a bootable WIRED machine and ( debatable ) some means to do
    config mgmt. However given the multitude of existing options I am
    not too keen on including anything for this specific purpose but
    rather let the admin copy the bootstrap tools of choice via scp.<br>
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    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; From the list above I would exclude several items, such as nmap,
    patch, tmux,, screen, bash-completion... OTOH I would definitely
    include biosdevname , for the simple reason that Dell loves to use
    it ( even if it's not mandatory ). Not to mention that including
    BOTH tmux and screen on a MINIMAL image seems excessive given that
    they have the same purpose. And.. wasn't sendmail replaced by
    postfix a decade ago ? :) ( #define decade = one major release )<br>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">I wonder what size Wolfy has stuff down
          to? :)</div>
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    a tad smaller :) for a start I'd stick in --excludedocs<br>
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