<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 2 February 2015 at 06:07, Johnny Hughes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johnny@centos.org" target="_blank">johnny@centos.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On 02/01/2015 04:23 PM, Anders F Björklund wrote:<br>
>> Since the Alternative Desktop SIG didn't happen, we thought we would<br>
>> make a more focused effort and improve the Xfce desktop environment<br>
>> experience on CentOS. That might end up being a dedicated CentOS SIG,<br>
>> or just a couple of improvements to the existing packages from EPEL.<br>
>><br>
>> Once upon a time, or more precisely: back in the CentOS 5.0 days,<br>
>> Xfce 4.4 was available in Extras and it was a pretty simple install<br>
>> that just worked "out of the box". Now, there's the newer versions<br>
>> available via EPEL - but the experience is nowhere near painless...<br>
><br>
> Apparently there is no need for such a SIG, since Fedora already has<br>
> the Xfce and EPEL groups at this time and there is no need to recreate<br>
> the packages somewhere else (that already exist in Fedora and EPEL).<br>
> So the remaining issues to be improved upon, should go there instead.<br>
><br>
> Right now most of the development happens in a COPR, and there's no<br>
> official testing process which means it's up to each user to test it.<br>
> See for instance <a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1144025" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1144025</a><br>
> But I haven't filed bugs/paperwork for the issues I mentioned earlier.<br>
><br>
>> Going to try to meet up with other interested parties during FOSDEM,<br>
>> to see if we can't improve upon that and at least fix the low hanging<br>
>> issues. And get some better Xfce testing and feedback going, as well.<br>
>> A more long-term goal is make it an alternative to GNOME (Workstation).<br>
><br>
>> If you are interested in helping out with testing, packaging or<br>
>> developing (backporting, fixing the upstream issues, and so on)<br>
>> then please say so. I'll try to have some more detailed lists and<br>
>> updated packages with me, for the FOSDEM meetup in the weekend...<br>
><br>
> We will continue with our work, and contribute patches to the upstreams.<br>
> This includes LightDM for the display manager, using Clearlooks/Adwaita<br>
> theme for GTK+ and GNOME icon theme and GNOME background (default.jpg) -<br>
> instead of the current Xfce (old, deprecated) or Fedora themes used now.<br>
><br>
> Once it is done, and if there is enough interest, it would be possible<br>
> for CentOS to work with EPEL in providing a "spin" with Xfce enabled...<br>
> Until that time has come, the user will have to continue to do a Base<br>
> installation (with X11) and then add the Xfce yum group from EPEL to it.<br>
><br>
><br>
> So there won't be any "Xfce for CentOS group". Back to lurking mode. :-)<br>
> Hi to everyone I met at FOSDEM, too bad I missed the meeting and dinner.<br>
<br>
</div></div>I am all for this effort .. but who is going to monitor the upstream and<br>
back port security issues and the rest.<br>
<br>
Just blindly compiling old Fedora RPMs is not going to be helpful if it<br>
is insecure.<br>
<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The Fedora group watches upstream so I would say that combining there would be the best method. If someone already has a copr for XFCE for EL5,6,7 that is cool but if not I can set one up and if people feed me the fixes needed I can get a unified updated version for those releases.</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Stephen J Smoogen.<br><br></div></div>
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