<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:28 AM Phelps, Matthew <<a href="mailto:mphelps@cfa.harvard.edu">mphelps@cfa.harvard.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 9:06 AM Rich Bowen <<a href="mailto:rbowen@redhat.com" target="_blank">rbowen@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next <br>
year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat <br>
Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which tracks just ahead of a <br>
current RHEL release. CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end <br>
at the end of 2021. CentOS Stream continues after that date, serving as <br>
the upstream (development) branch of Red Hat Enterprise Linux.<br>
<br>
Meanwhile, we understand many of you are deeply invested in CentOS Linux <br>
7, and we’ll continue to produce that version through the remainder of <br>
the RHEL 7 life cycle. <br>
<a href="https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata/#Life_Cycle_Dates" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata/#Life_Cycle_Dates</a><br>
<br>
CentOS Stream will also be the centerpiece of a major shift in <br>
collaboration among the CentOS Special Interest Groups (SIGs). This <br>
ensures SIGs are developing and testing against what becomes the next <br>
version of RHEL. This also provides SIGs a clear single goal, rather <br>
than having to build and test for two releases. It gives the CentOS <br>
contributor community a great deal of influence in the future of RHEL. <br>
And it removes confusion around what “CentOS” means in the Linux <br>
distribution ecosystem.<br>
<br>
When CentOS Linux 8 (the rebuild of RHEL8) ends, your best option will <br>
be to migrate to CentOS Stream 8, which is a small delta from CentOS <br>
Linux 8, and has regular updates like traditional CentOS Linux releases. <br>
If you are using CentOS Linux 8 in a production environment, and are <br>
concerned that CentOS Stream will not meet your needs, we encourage you <br>
to contact Red Hat about options.<br>
<br>
We have an FAQ - <a href="https://centos.org/distro-faq/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://centos.org/distro-faq/</a> - to help with your <br>
information and planning needs, as you figure out how this shift of <br>
project focus might affect you.<br>
<br>
[See also: Red Hat's perspective on this. <br>
<a href="https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/centos-stream-building-innovative-future-enterprise-linux" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/centos-stream-building-innovative-future-enterprise-linux</a>]<br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div><div>You have published a CentOS Lifecycle that states the EOL for CentOS 8 is May 2029. (c.f. <a href="https://endoflife.software/operating-systems/linux/centos" target="_blank">https://endoflife.software/operating-systems/linux/centos</a>). CentOS Stream *is not* CentOS 8.</div><div><br></div><div>This announcement is a breach of that trust with your community, and could be construed as a breach of contract with your users.</div><div><br></div><div>Save this change for CentOS 9.</div><div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This statement from that page is also now a lie:</div><div><br></div><div><span style="color:rgb(119,119,119);font-family:Lato,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(119,119,119);font-family:Lato,sans-serif;font-size:14px">The CentOS Linux distribution is a stable, predictable, manageable and reproducible platform derived from the sources of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL).</span><span style="color:rgb(119,119,119);font-family:Lato,sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(119,119,119);font-family:Lato,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(119,119,119);font-family:Lato,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></span></div>This statement is the reason we *all* chose CentOS. You will be betraying us in the worst possible way if this change is allowed to happen. </div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">This isn't just a "Knee jerk" reaction. CentOS is abandoning everything it stood for by even creating CentOS Stream. We *dont want it* !!</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Getting rid of a strict re-compile of RHEL X.X is a complete reversal of the principles of CentOS and the community it serves. Again, WE DON'T WANT THIS!</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br><div><span style="color:rgb(119,119,119);font-family:Lato,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></span></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><br><div dir="ltr" style="margin-left:0pt"><table style="border:none;border-collapse:collapse"><colgroup><col width="445"><col width="275"></colgroup><tbody><tr style="height:90pt"><td style="border-width:1pt;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:top;padding:5pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap"><b>Matt Phelps</b></span></font></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap"><b>Information Technology Specialist, Systems Administrator</b></span></font></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap">(Computation Facility</span></font>, Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory)</p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">60 Garden Street | MS 39 | Cambridge, MA 02138</span></p>email: <a href="mailto:mphelps@cfa.harvard.edu" target="_blank">mphelps@cfa.harvard.edu</a><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/27BMxsC8PNyf5KTQKk3XXgRO_wLFfyTSJqSrArFVTHKzXR-F1GM1dkcbALumtHfQ-XywY0HszACvTxfNbNnsqTuqwev72DoKnMS2En3SUhoeOKsxS99pFgxp2akTBd5ZxwXeEzzl" width="350" height="2" style="border: none;"></span></p></td></tr><tr style="height:27pt"><td style="border-width:1pt;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(255,255,255);vertical-align:top;padding:5pt"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/0ZtY7OVp7JUE6c07iw9qwGi25245c2MSrx0T-u7t_VYr2OiN3uMr1Jh6vzqHA2BI1cu-jzLev-aiZqCW66HIMgeobZ8Wx1MzwRuOKD6QO_iWs8llxnwIpoaocLzQ8YF7gDocGPk7" width="149" height="65" style="border: none;"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