<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 10:41 AM Phil Perry <<a href="mailto:pperry@elrepo.org">pperry@elrepo.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 17/05/2021 14:32, Troy Dawson wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 6:22 AM Fabian Arrotin <<a href="mailto:arrfab@centos.org" target="_blank">arrfab@centos.org</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:arrfab@centos.org" target="_blank">arrfab@centos.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> On 17/05/2021 15:10, Troy Dawson wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 6:47 AM Leon Fauster via CentOS-devel<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:centos-devel@centos.org" target="_blank">centos-devel@centos.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:centos-devel@centos.org" target="_blank">centos-devel@centos.org</a>><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:centos-devel@centos.org" target="_blank">centos-devel@centos.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:centos-devel@centos.org" target="_blank">centos-devel@centos.org</a>>>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > On 15.05.21 06:51, Troy Dawson wrote:<br>
> > > Back when the CentOS 8 Devel repo[1] was originally<br>
> introduced, the<br>
> > > CentOS Stream 8 Devel repo[2] was kept empty.<br>
> > > Now that CentOS 8 is going away, and we are expected to<br>
> develop on<br>
> > > CentOS Stream 8, could we please get CentOS Stream 8 Devel<br>
> populated<br>
> > > with the same packages it once had.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I know there is an initiative for all the missing -devel<br>
> packages to<br>
> > > appear somewhere at sometime. But here is my problem.<br>
> > > I'm trying to get KDE rebuilt for CentOS Stream 8 due to the<br>
> > updated qt5<br>
> > > that is now in Stream.<br>
> > > plasma-nm, a fairly important piece of KDE, requires<br>
> > > mobile-broadband-provider-info-devel which is in the Devel<br>
> repo.<br>
> > > From what I see, the fastest way to get<br>
> > > mobile-broadband-provider-info-devel somewhere that I can<br>
> consume<br>
> > it on<br>
> > > Stream is via the Devel repo.<br>
> > > Thus my question.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Can we get CentOS Stream 8 Devel populated with whatever is<br>
> in the<br>
> > > regular Devel repo.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Thanks<br>
> > > Troy Dawson<br>
> > ><br>
> > > [1] -<br>
> <a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>><br>
> > <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>>><br>
> > ><br>
> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>><br>
> > <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>>>><br>
> > > [2] -<br>
> ><br>
> <a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>><br>
> > <br>
> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>>><br>
> > ><br>
> > <br>
> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>><br>
> > <br>
> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>>>><br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
> > JFI:<br>
> ><br>
> > Downloads from koji instance allowed now.<br>
> > <a href="https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/</a><br>
> <<a href="https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/</a>><br>
> > <<a href="https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/</a><br>
> <<a href="https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/</a>>><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > True, but that doesn't get them into the EPEL or COPR build<br>
> environment.<br>
> ><br>
> > Troy<br>
> ><br>
> <br>
> Hi Troy,<br>
> <br>
> As you're now part of the CentOS Stream team, when can we expect to see<br>
> that Devel repo being populated ? that would help for now SIGs building<br>
> in <a href="http://cbs.centos.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">cbs.centos.org</a> <<a href="http://cbs.centos.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cbs.centos.org</a>> (and we have also again<br>
> other requests for built but<br>
> unreleased pkgs in Devel repo, so having a status update on that one<br>
> would be good too)<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Well played good sir.<br>
> Unfortunately I only deal with the CentOS Stream 9 stuff, but I will <br>
> bring it up in the team meeting.<br>
> <br>
> I wrote this email on the centos-devel mailing list, as an EPEL package <br>
> maintainer, that has a problem. Because my EPEL work is done in my <br>
> spare time, and it's a legitimate EPEL packager problem. And I'd like <br>
> the solution to be public, and not behind closed doors.<br>
> <br>
> Troy<br>
> <br>
<br>
I'm not sure I understand why this is even an issue anymore. Now CentOS <br>
Stream is upstream of RHEL, surely there are no constraints to only ship <br>
what RHEL (downstream) ships? Why wouldn't CentOS Stream simply ship <br>
everything and if RHEL decides upon a policy to only ship/support a <br>
certain subset of (-devel) packages, that is a RH/RHEL decision that can <br>
be implemented downstream by removing the bits they don't want to <br>
ship/support and should have zero impact upstream? RH/RHEL are free to <br>
do whatever they want downstream.<br>
<br>
Or have I completely misunderstood the relationship here?<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Actually, you understood it correctly.</div><div><br></div><div>It seems an email got misplaced. When it was announced that CentOS Stream 9 koji build system, including the buildroot, was now publically available, there was also supposed to be a similar announcement concerning CentOS Stream 8. For some reason, that announcement failed to get sent.</div><div><br></div><div>So, you are correct, there currently is a way for the EPEL community (or COPR, or whoever wants) to get access to the CentOS Stream 8 build system and complete buildroot. I simply was not aware of it.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I will bring this up with the EPEL community, especially those setting up epel-next.</div><div><br></div><div>Sorry for all the noise. But ... now we (I) know.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Troy</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div>