<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 2:48 PM Phil Perry <<a href="mailto:pperry@elrepo.org">pperry@elrepo.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 17/05/2021 20:46, Phil Perry wrote:<br>
> On 17/05/2021 20:30, Johnny Hughes wrote:<br>
>> On 5/17/21 1:46 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 1:34 PM Phil Perry <<a href="mailto:pperry@elrepo.org" target="_blank">pperry@elrepo.org</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:pperry@elrepo.org" target="_blank">pperry@elrepo.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 17/05/2021 18:49, Troy Dawson wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 10:41 AM Phil Perry <<a href="mailto:pperry@elrepo.org" target="_blank">pperry@elrepo.org</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:pperry@elrepo.org" target="_blank">pperry@elrepo.org</a>><br>
>>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:pperry@elrepo.org" target="_blank">pperry@elrepo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:pperry@elrepo.org" target="_blank">pperry@elrepo.org</a>>>> wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On 17/05/2021 14:32, Troy Dawson wrote:<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 6:22 AM Fabian Arrotin<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:arrfab@centos.org" target="_blank">arrfab@centos.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:arrfab@centos.org" target="_blank">arrfab@centos.org</a>><br>
>>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:arrfab@centos.org" target="_blank">arrfab@centos.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:arrfab@centos.org" target="_blank">arrfab@centos.org</a>>><br>
>>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:arrfab@centos.org" target="_blank">arrfab@centos.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:arrfab@centos.org" target="_blank">arrfab@centos.org</a>><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:arrfab@centos.org" target="_blank">arrfab@centos.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:arrfab@centos.org" target="_blank">arrfab@centos.org</a>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > On 17/05/2021 15:10, Troy Dawson wrote:<br>
>>> > > ><br>
>>> > > ><br>
>>> > > > On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 6:47 AM Leon Fauster via<br>
>>> CentOS-devel<br>
>>> > > > <<a href="mailto:centos-devel@centos.org" target="_blank">centos-devel@centos.org</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:centos-devel@centos.org" target="_blank">centos-devel@centos.org</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:centos-devel@centos.org" target="_blank">centos-devel@centos.org</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:centos-devel@centos.org" target="_blank">centos-devel@centos.org</a>>><br>
>>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:centos-devel@centos.org" target="_blank">centos-devel@centos.org</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:centos-devel@centos.org" target="_blank">centos-devel@centos.org</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:centos-devel@centos.org" target="_blank">centos-devel@centos.org</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:centos-devel@centos.org" target="_blank">centos-devel@centos.org</a>>>><br>
>>> > > <mailto:<a href="mailto:centos-devel@centos.org" target="_blank">centos-devel@centos.org</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:centos-devel@centos.org" target="_blank">centos-devel@centos.org</a>><br>
>>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:centos-devel@centos.org" target="_blank">centos-devel@centos.org</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:centos-devel@centos.org" target="_blank">centos-devel@centos.org</a>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:centos-devel@centos.org" target="_blank">centos-devel@centos.org</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:centos-devel@centos.org" target="_blank">centos-devel@centos.org</a>><br>
>>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:centos-devel@centos.org" target="_blank">centos-devel@centos.org</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:centos-devel@centos.org" target="_blank">centos-devel@centos.org</a>>>>>><br>
>>> > > wrote:<br>
>>> > > ><br>
>>> > > > On 15.05.21 06:51, Troy Dawson wrote:<br>
>>> > > > > Back when the CentOS 8 Devel repo[1] was<br>
>>> originally<br>
>>> > > introduced, the<br>
>>> > > > > CentOS Stream 8 Devel repo[2] was kept empty.<br>
>>> > > > > Now that CentOS 8 is going away, and we are<br>
>>> expected to<br>
>>> > > develop on<br>
>>> > > > > CentOS Stream 8, could we please get CentOS<br>
>>> Stream 8<br>
>>> > Devel<br>
>>> > > populated<br>
>>> > > > > with the same packages it once had.<br>
>>> > > > ><br>
>>> > > > > I know there is an initiative for all the<br>
>>> missing -devel<br>
>>> > > packages to<br>
>>> > > > > appear somewhere at sometime. But here is my<br>
>>> problem.<br>
>>> > > > > I'm trying to get KDE rebuilt for CentOS <br>
>>> Stream 8<br>
>>> > due to the<br>
>>> > > > updated qt5<br>
>>> > > > > that is now in Stream.<br>
>>> > > > > plasma-nm, a fairly important piece of KDE,<br>
>>> requires<br>
>>> > > > > mobile-broadband-provider-info-devel which is<br>
>>> in the<br>
>>> > Devel<br>
>>> > > repo.<br>
>>> > > > > From what I see, the fastest way to get<br>
>>> > > > > mobile-broadband-provider-info-devel <br>
>>> somewhere<br>
>>> that<br>
>>> > I can<br>
>>> > > consume<br>
>>> > > > it on<br>
>>> > > > > Stream is via the Devel repo.<br>
>>> > > > > Thus my question.<br>
>>> > > > ><br>
>>> > > > > Can we get CentOS Stream 8 Devel populated <br>
>>> with<br>
>>> > whatever is<br>
>>> > > in the<br>
>>> > > > > regular Devel repo.<br>
>>> > > > ><br>
>>> > > > > Thanks<br>
>>> > > > > Troy Dawson<br>
>>> > > > ><br>
>>> > > > > [1] -<br>
>>> > > <br>
>>> <a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>><br>
>>> > <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>>><br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>><br>
>>> > <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>>>><br>
>>> > > ><br>
>>> > <br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>><br>
>>> > <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>>><br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>><br>
>>> > <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>>>>><br>
>>> > > > ><br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>><br>
>>> > <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>>><br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>><br>
>>> > <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>>>><br>
>>> > > ><br>
>>> > <br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>><br>
>>> > <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>>><br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>><br>
>>> > <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>>>>>><br>
>>> > > > > [2] -<br>
>>> > > ><br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> <a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> <br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>>><br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> ><br>
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>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <br>
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>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>>>><br>
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>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <br>
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>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>>>>><br>
>>> > > > ><br>
>>> > > ><br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> ><br>
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>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>>> <br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>>>><br>
>>> > > ><br>
>>> > ><br>
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>>> <br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>>> <br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>><br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a><br>
>>> <br>
>>> <<a href="http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8-stream/Devel/x86_64/os/Packages/</a>>>>>><br>
>>> > > > ><br>
>>> > > ><br>
>>> > > > JFI:<br>
>>> > > ><br>
>>> > > > Downloads from koji instance allowed now.<br>
>>> > > > <a href="https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/</a>><br>
>>> > <<a href="https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/</a>>><br>
>>> > > <<a href="https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/</a>><br>
>>> > <<a href="https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/</a>>>><br>
>>> > > > <<a href="https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/</a>><br>
>>> > <<a href="https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/</a>>><br>
>>> > > <<a href="https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/</a>><br>
>>> > <<a href="https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/</a><br>
>>> <<a href="https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://koji.mbox.centos.org/pkgs/packages/</a>>>>><br>
>>> > > ><br>
>>> > > ><br>
>>> > > > True, but that doesn't get them into the EPEL or<br>
>>> COPR build<br>
>>> > > environment.<br>
>>> > > ><br>
>>> > > > Troy<br>
>>> > > ><br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > Hi Troy,<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > As you're now part of the CentOS Stream team, when <br>
>>> can we<br>
>>> > expect to see<br>
>>> > > that Devel repo being populated ? that would help <br>
>>> for now<br>
>>> > SIGs building<br>
>>> > > in <a href="http://cbs.centos.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">cbs.centos.org</a> <<a href="http://cbs.centos.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cbs.centos.org</a>><br>
>>> <<a href="http://cbs.centos.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cbs.centos.org</a> <<a href="http://cbs.centos.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cbs.centos.org</a>>><br>
>>> > <<a href="http://cbs.centos.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cbs.centos.org</a> <<a href="http://cbs.centos.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cbs.centos.org</a>><br>
>>> <<a href="http://cbs.centos.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cbs.centos.org</a> <<a href="http://cbs.centos.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://cbs.centos.org</a>>>> (and we have <br>
>>> also again<br>
>>> > > other requests for built but<br>
>>> > > unreleased pkgs in Devel repo, so having a status <br>
>>> update on<br>
>>> > that one<br>
>>> > > would be good too)<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > Well played good sir.<br>
>>> > > Unfortunately I only deal with the CentOS Stream 9 stuff,<br>
>>> but I will<br>
>>> > > bring it up in the team meeting.<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > I wrote this email on the centos-devel mailing list, as <br>
>>> an EPEL<br>
>>> > package<br>
>>> > > maintainer, that has a problem. Because my EPEL work is<br>
>>> done in my<br>
>>> > > spare time, and it's a legitimate EPEL packager problem.<br>
>>> And I'd<br>
>>> > like<br>
>>> > > the solution to be public, and not behind closed doors.<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> > > Troy<br>
>>> > ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I'm not sure I understand why this is even an issue anymore.<br>
>>> Now CentOS<br>
>>> > Stream is upstream of RHEL, surely there are no <br>
>>> constraints to<br>
>>> only<br>
>>> > ship<br>
>>> > what RHEL (downstream) ships? Why wouldn't CentOS Stream<br>
>>> simply ship<br>
>>> > everything and if RHEL decides upon a policy to only<br>
>>> ship/support a<br>
>>> > certain subset of (-devel) packages, that is a RH/RHEL<br>
>>> decision that<br>
>>> > can<br>
>>> > be implemented downstream by removing the bits they don't <br>
>>> want to<br>
>>> > ship/support and should have zero impact upstream? RH/RHEL <br>
>>> are<br>
>>> free to<br>
>>> > do whatever they want downstream.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Or have I completely misunderstood the relationship here?<br>
>>> ><br>
>>><br>
>>> Hi Troy,<br>
>>><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Actually, you understood it correctly.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > It seems an email got misplaced. When it was announced that <br>
>>> CentOS<br>
>>> > Stream 9 koji build system, including the buildroot, was now<br>
>>> publically<br>
>>> > available, there was also supposed to be a similar announcement<br>
>>> > concerning CentOS Stream 8. For some reason, that announcement<br>
>>> failed<br>
>>> > to get sent.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > So, you are correct, there currently is a way for the EPEL<br>
>>> community (or<br>
>>> > COPR, or whoever wants) to get access to the CentOS Stream 8 <br>
>>> build<br>
>>> > system and complete buildroot. I simply was not aware of it.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>><br>
>>> Except, as you stated earlier in the thread, they are not in the <br>
>>> CentOS<br>
>>> Stream repos, so it is still not possible to easily pull them into<br>
>>> build<br>
>>> environments.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I believe your question is valid. Why are these packages being <br>
>>> excluded<br>
>>> from CenOS Stream in the first place? I understand why they are<br>
>>> excluded<br>
>>> from CentOS Linux 8, as that is a like for like rebuild of RHEL <br>
>>> 8, and<br>
>>> what is not in RHEL will not be in CentOS Linux. But CentOS <br>
>>> Stream is<br>
>>> upstream of RHEL, not downstream, so I do not understand why ANY <br>
>>> built<br>
>>> devel packages are excluded from the CentOS Stream repos. Why <br>
>>> would you<br>
>>> not ship everything you build??? RHEL policy decisions should not<br>
>>> affect<br>
>>> what happens upstream.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> This is mostly because we also don't ship it in RHEL and we don't ship<br>
>>> it there because we don't want to be on the hook to support it (even<br>
>>> RHEL has a budget and limited resources).<br>
>>><br>
>>> As far as CentOS Stream, the promise is that if it runs in CentOS Stream<br>
>>> today it should run in the next version of RHEL. By including content<br>
>>> in Stream that we don't include in RHEL, suddenly that promise is broken<br>
>>> if someone accidentally uses it assuming it's in RHEL.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I'm not saying there aren't ways to work through these issues, but I<br>
>>> wanted to give some ideas as to the thought process that got us here.<br>
>>><br>
>>> -Mike<br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>> Mike,<br>
>><br>
>> That is all well and good .. but it is your guys (EPEL and Red Hat SIGs)<br>
>> that need this Development content to be in CentOS Stream and the CentOS<br>
>> Community Build System to build things. (I can build things as this<br>
>> content is already in my Koji buildroot).<br>
>><br>
>> And it is me, this list, and the CentOS Stream group that keep getting<br>
>> asked (by EPEL and the RH SIGs) why this open source stuff can not be in<br>
>> CentOS Linux, CentOS Stream and the CBS.<br>
>><br>
>> Surely we can set up a non RHEL released repo that your guys can use to<br>
>> build the things that they want.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>> Johnny Hughes<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> But from what Mike just said, EPEL/SIGs should be building against those <br>
> missing -devel packages on Stream because anything built on Stream must <br>
> also run on RHEL?<br>
> <br>
<br>
Sorry, typo - EPEL/SIGs should NOT be building against those missing <br>
-devel packages...<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'm always confused by this because the basis of CRB *was* supposed to be what was required to build EPEL. I'm not sure if EPEL has grown since we started or if we just missed the mark with CRB. </div><div><br></div><div> -Mike</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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