<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 3:54 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia <<a href="mailto:nkadel@gmail.com">nkadel@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Because this kind of unwelcome stunt is brand new as best I can tell,<br>
never pulled in 25 years as far as I can find. <br></blockquote><div> </div><div>I understand the feeling, but let's take a deep breath.</div><div><br></div><div>RHEL hasn't been around for 25 years, so you know you are exaggerating.</div><div><br></div><div>And yes, it has happened before, at least for Scientific Linux.</div><div>I definitely remember RHEL pushing some srpm's to their ftp area (back when they released srpm's), and then removing those srpm's.</div><div>We (Scientific Linux) automatically pulled down those srpm's, built them, and pushed them out.</div><div>We (Scientific Linux) were contacted once by Red Hat, another time by our own users, letting us know that we'd released a package not in RHEL, and we removed it from our repos.</div><div>What happened?</div><div>Real people, and a real world happened.</div><div>Something happened in RHEL's workflow that was allowing srpms to be pushed. This workflow was eventually fixed.</div><div>We (Scientific Linux) were not properly testing our packages before pushing them out. This workflow was eventually fixed.</div><div><br></div><div>Again, deep breath.</div><div>Please remember this (CentOS Stream) is a new workflow.</div><div>There are real people, and a real world, behind it.</div><div>There will be hickups and problems in that workflow.</div><div>We (Red Hat) need feedback, so we know about those problems. We appreciate that.</div><div>Once we (Red Hat) know, and understand the scope of the problem, it's time to figure out how to solve that problem.</div><div>We (Red Hat) also appreciate input on how to solve the problem.</div><div><br></div><div>We (Red Hat) appreciate feedback, both on the problems, and the solutions.</div><div>It's much easier for that feedback to be digested (understood and empathised) when things aren't exaggerated.</div><div>It is also very useful when we find out "why" people are doing things.</div><div>Using this example, it's helpful to know "why" they are trying to reinstall freetype.</div><div>Is this a security audit that requires every package to be reinstalled?</div><div>Is this part of someone's QA that requires every package to be reinstalled?</div><div>Did you accidentally remove a file and need to re-install the package.</div><div>Knowing the "why" helps us (Red Hat) understand the priority and scope.<br></div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Troy</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div></div>