On 19/07/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">Akemi Yagi</b> <<a href="mailto:amyagi@gmail.com">amyagi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 3:25 AM, Alan Bartlett <<a href="mailto:ajb.stxsl@googlemail.com">ajb.stxsl@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br> > On 18/07/2008, Filipe Brandenburger <<a href="mailto:filbranden@gmail.com">filbranden@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>>> Note that none of these articles are about building RPMs anyway, one<br> >> is a kind of FAQ on Yum and RPM and the second one is on building your<br> >> own kernel.<br> <br>> Perhaps you would care to draft out what you have in mind.<br>
<br>> Russ, Ralph and Akemi - do you have any comments, please?<br> <br>My view on this is as follows.<br> <br> I and many others use Wiki articles to help users. A good example is<br> the Repositories page:<br> <br>
<a href="http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories">http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories</a><br> <br> Just checked the CentOS forums and found we have referred to this URL<br> 18 times this month alone. That's about once a day. I see the same<br>
thing on the CentOS IRC - frequent citation to that Wiki.<br> <br> As a matter of fact, quite a few Wiki articles were created out of<br> demand - demand by helpers rather than users. We get tired of typing<br> the same thing over and over again.</blockquote>
<div><br>Agreed, entirely. <br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> So, when I want to assess if a new Wiki page is worth writing, I base<br>
it on the past record and see if that article would have helped if<br> existed. Here, I picked up some threads in the forums that are<br> related to "building from srpm".<br> <br> (1) This is the latest one. In there, Ned gives a brief description<br>
as the "theory".<br> <br> <a href="http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=15267&forum=37&post_id=53624#forumpost53624">http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=15267&forum=37&post_id=53624#forumpost53624</a><br>
<br> (2) In this thread, a user asks "Is there some howto to do that on<br> Centos...?" Alan answers with the correct command. But no one<br> responded with a howto.<br> <br> <a href="http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&topic_id=15002&forum=28">http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&topic_id=15002&forum=28</a><br>
<br> (3) Another regular helper and now a Wiki author, pjwelsh, also<br> provides an answer with the rpmbuild command to use.<br> <br> <a href="http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=15184&forum=31&post_id=53235#forumpost53235">http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=15184&forum=31&post_id=53235#forumpost53235</a><br>
<br> (4) Yet another case by pjwelsh.<br> <br> <a href="http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=15161&forum=45&post_id=53115#forumpost53115">http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=15161&forum=45&post_id=53115#forumpost53115</a><br>
<br> (5) Here is mine as toracat :-D<br> <br> <a href="http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=14195&forum=38&post_id=48562#forumpost48562">http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=14195&forum=38&post_id=48562#forumpost48562</a><br>
<br> Except for mine which was in May, all other examples are from this<br> month and from "highly knowledgeable people". I personally feel (my<br> selfish thinking) that a single point of reference to a CentOS wiki<br>
would have helped *both* the helpers and the users in all these cases<br> and many others I have seen not only in the forums but in the mailing<br> lists and IRC as well.</blockquote><div><br>Thank you for those well put and thoughtful comments, Akemi.<br>
<br>Is that how you propose to proceed, Fillipe?<br><br>Alan.</div></div><br>