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AFAIK, you don't need to be an IT company, or even operate a business. You just need to be able to meet the requirements for hosting a CentOS mirror so being a reseller shouldn't matter.</div>
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The mirrors should be removed as they are not in the locations mentioned.</div>
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Thanks,</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b> CentOS-mirror <centos-mirror-bounces@centos.org> on behalf of Alexandre Leonenko <alex@esecuredata.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 18 November 2020 1:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mailing list for CentOS mirrors. <centos-mirror@centos.org>; richardmuise.ca@gmail.com <richardmuise.ca@gmail.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CentOS-mirror] Mirror: centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr listed as Canadian mirror</font>
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To me it seems like <span style="color: rgb(32, 31, 30); font-size: 14.6667px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline !important;">Altinsoft.net is actually a reseller. They don't own any actual servers. In Canada, certain locations, the power
costs are cheaper than Europe</span></div>
<div style=""><font color="#201f1e" style=""><span style="font-size:14.6667px">That's probably the reason the mirror hosted here in Canada.</span></font></div>
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<div style=""><font color="#201f1e" style=""><span style="font-size:14.6667px">And like Christopher mentioned, both IPs resolve to OVH in Quebec</span></font></div>
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<div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b> CentOS-mirror <centos-mirror-bounces@centos.org> on behalf of Christopher Hawker <email@chrishawker.com.au><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mailing list for CentOS mirrors. <centos-mirror@centos.org>; richardmuise.ca@gmail.com <richardmuise.ca@gmail.com><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CentOS-mirror] Mirror: centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr listed as Canadian mirror</font>
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According to the MaxMind GeoIP database, both IP addresses for both servers are located in Canada.</div>
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192.95.3.130 is in Montreal, Quebec and 144.217.237.129 is in Beauharnois, Quebec.</div>
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As has already been established, neither mirror accepts ICMP packets, so we cannot determine what the final destination is and where the servers are accurately located.</div>
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Both mirrors should be removed, until their location can be established with 100% certainty.</div>
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Thanks,</div>
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<div id="x_x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b> CentOS-mirror <centos-mirror-bounces@centos.org> on behalf of Richard Muise <richardmuise.ca@gmail.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 18 November 2020 10:11 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mailing list for CentOS mirrors. <centos-mirror@centos.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CentOS-mirror] Mirror: centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr listed as Canadian mirror</font>
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<div class="x_x_PlainText">Fabian,<br>
Sorry I had missed the original messages from the previous weekend. My search-fu is poor I guess. I see the thread now.<br>
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My comments apply to both centos-canada.altinsoft.net and centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr. They were both added in the same thread, Nov 8th and Nov 14th respectively, and by the same email address (support @ altinsoft.net). The domain servers for the second
mirror is listed as ns*.onecloudserver.net, which is also tied to Altinsoft.<br>
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Altinsoft.net is a hosting company, and their contact page only lists their location as Turkey:
<a href="https://www.altinsoft.net/contact">https://www.altinsoft.net/contact</a>. Their terms of service also clearly indicates that Altinsoft is Turkish company (see Supplier here:
<a href="https://www.altinsoft.net/terms-of-service">https://www.altinsoft.net/terms-of-service</a> - quote “AltýnSoft Information Technologies, a private company incorporated and registered in the Republic of Turkey…”).<br>
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Checking their hosting information, they state they have servers around the world, including Canada
<a href="https://www.altinsoft.net/canada-ca-dedicated-servers">https://www.altinsoft.net/canada-ca-dedicated-servers</a> (quote “Our Canada location servers are hosted in the OVH Canada data center).<br>
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So that confirms what Darrell and Jonathan reported - Canadian GeoIP because it is hosted in the OVH data centre. But I cannot find any information to indicate that Altinsoft, the company paying for this mirror, is not situated in Turkey. I cannot guess
the reason why a Turkish company would choose to host a Centos Mirror for Canada when they do not appear to be hosting any for users in Turkey (I checked the 28 mirrors for Turkey).<br>
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Finally, and this is just an opinion, but the mail in the mailing list did not sound like a native English or French speaker. “We've sent it before, but we haven't received an answer What is the problem”, “Thank you for help” and “Please change.".<br>
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Perhaps this is not enough grounds to change the mirror list, but it does raise a number of flags.<br>
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Thank you for responding and pointing me to GeoIP, which I had not used before. And thank you for the work to maintain the list. I’ve been a volunteer in other projects, and I know it’s hard to balance incoming requests vs full-time work and family.<br>
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> On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:14 AM, Fabian Arrotin <arrfab@centos.org> wrote:<br>
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> On 17/11/2020 16:59, Richard Muise wrote:<br>
>> I’d like to suggest that the mirror centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr<br>
>> <<a href="http://centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr">http://centos-canada.vdssunucu.com.tr</a>> should not be listed as a<br>
>> Canadian mirror. The IP look indicates the virtual host is in Turkey,<br>
>> not Canada. Perhaps it should be listed under Turkey mirrors instead.<br>
>> <br>
>> I searched the Centos-mirror mailing list and could not find any<br>
>> discussion of this site before.<br>
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>> Thanks.<br>
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> I know it looked "strange" by looking at vhost/fqdn, but GeoIP lookup<br>
> confirmed (from our pre-flight check) that it's indeed in Canada<br>
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> And here is the original request that arrived on mailman, so yes, it was<br>
> discussed :<br>
> <a href="https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-mirror/2020-November/024530.html">
https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-mirror/2020-November/024530.html</a><br>
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> Do you have other GeoIP DB/proof that server isn't located in Canada ?<br>
> -- <br>
> Fabian Arrotin<br>
> The CentOS Project | <a href="https://www.centos.org">https://www.centos.org</a><br>
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