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Please allow me to put in my 2c worth...</div>
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Going way back when CentOS 7 was first released, I found it difficult to migrate from 6 to 7. For example, the management of IPTables for myself was quite simple (editing a single file) and changing the way things are managed with FirewallD at the time was
challenging. Over time, you adapt and learn the new systems. There still are a lot of systems that use CentOS 7 and in the process of migrating to 8, however that may now not occur.</div>
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The biggest thing that threw me off with CentOS 8 was RHEL's decision to cease native support for the SAS2008 drivers. There is still a lot of hardware in production that uses the SAS2008 chipset, and it is somewhat difficult to slipstream drivers into the
installer in order to use CentOS 8 on systems with drives and cards that use SAS2008. It was quite painful for myself who had to build 64 x Dell M610 blades manually which still used storage controllers with the SAS2008 chipset.</div>
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It is a major mistake for CentOS/RHEL to cease support for CentOS 8 so early. The global IT community will take a big hit. There are going to be countless individuals, organisations, companies, schools, etc. who will scramble to migrate to platforms that are
so strongly supported (*looking at Ubuntu*) and there are going to be a lot of annoyed and pissed-off devs who have been busy working to rebuild their software to ensure compatibility with CentOS 8 only to learn that the OS will no longer be supported. CentOS/RHEL
should now consider CentOS 8 dead as no one will bother spending the time or effort to develop software for a system that will be obsolete in just over 12 months.</div>
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RHEL really needs to consider how they play their cards. I believe their only saving grace, is to offer licensing for RHEL 8 at no cost until it goes EOL.</div>
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Regards,</div>
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Christopher Hawker</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b> CentOS-mirror <centos-mirror-bounces@centos.org> on behalf of Christian Freund <freund@wrz.de><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 10 December 2020 2:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mailing list for CentOS mirrors. <centos-mirror@centos.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CentOS-mirror] Removal of mirror.alpha-labs.net</font>
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<div class="PlainText">>> as CentOS is now a complete and utter piece of garbage<br>
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>> I am no longer willing to give then any of my resources.<br>
>> Please remove mirror.alpha-labs.net from any and all servers.<br>
> Hi Christian,<br>
> I can understand frustration and so why you reacted like you did.<br>
> My only message would be actually : "Don't shoot the messenger [TM]" ... :/<br>
> Let me just (if you permit it) slightly disagree with your "CentOS is now a complete and utter piece of garbage" : CentOS Linux itself hasn't changed and will remain so still need a mirror network, etc .. But probably not worth discussing on the list as
myself I'd like to wait some days to publicly say what I think of all this.<br>
>Anyway, let me thank you for having been part of the wide CentOS mirror network in the last years, as you helped people using CentOS<br>
> I've removed your mirror from our crawler DB and so shouldn't be "crawled/validated" anymore<br>
>Kind Regards,<br>
>Fabian Arrotin<br>
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Hello Fabian and Christian, hello List,<br>
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I do not think that CentOS is garbage now, but it is going to be unusable for (pre)production very soon.<br>
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>From my point it is annoying that we now have to downgrade to 7 after going from 6 to 8. For people parallely using RHEL this is the moment where you pay really a lot of money to Redhat or kick out RHEL and CentOS completely in your long-term-plans for a time
beyond 2021.<br>
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We are not taking our mirror down (yet). But there is no reason to keep it up longer than needed for a project that lost its significance.<br>
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I am "not amused" that CentOS stops to be what it once was: "A Cent for an enterprise community OS that is widely used".<br>
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Best Regards<br>
Christian Freund<br>
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