From a.rogge at solvention.de Mon Sep 1 09:23:46 2008 From: a.rogge at solvention.de (Andreas Rogge) Date: Mon Sep 1 09:23:51 2008 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> Message-ID: <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> I just had a look at the dates for LinuxWorld and T-Dose. LinuxWorld is scheduled on my birthday - obviously that's why it was cancelled last year ;) However, I won't be available this year. Another problem is T-Dose. It is scheduled for the same weekend as LinuxWorld and I feel we're not (yet) able to handle two events in parallel. Karanbir Singh schrieb: > Hi Dag, > > Dag Wieers wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently >> is taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a >> website that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although >> it is not on the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? >> >> http://www.linuxexpo.org.uk/centos > > I dont know much about it either, but I am guessing they are reusing > earlier info. There is a good chance that I will be around in London > those days - if so, can make it there. > -- Solvention Egermannstr. 6-8 53359 Rheinbach Tel: +49 2226 158179-0 Fax: +49 2226 158179-9 http://www.solvention.de mailto:info@solvention.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've not been to anything since Fosdem'08 - so where should I look to see whats the 'usual stuff' that CentOS does at these events ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219@icq From a.rogge at solvention.de Mon Sep 1 10:19:31 2008 From: a.rogge at solvention.de (Andreas Rogge) Date: Mon Sep 1 10:19:36 2008 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> Message-ID: <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> >> Another problem is T-Dose. It is scheduled for the same weekend as >> LinuxWorld and I feel we're not (yet) able to handle two events in >> parallel. > > If we split into two groups, we should be ok to manage two events ? Yeah, that's what I thought, too. However, for anything that's not FOSDEM we're usually only a few people. You need at least two people to run a booth and while this is probably not an issue for LinuxWorld it might become one for T-Dose. Maybe we should call for participants right now so we can decide which events are possible. > > I've not been to anything since Fosdem'08 - so where should I look to > see whats the 'usual stuff' that CentOS does at these events ? > What we had at FrOSCon was: - a Presentation (Ralph or Dag should have these in different Languages) running at the booth - a Demo-System to try CentOS yourself - DVD on Demand (we had issues burning them) - Stickers as a giveaway However, I guess as I wasn't attending LinuxTag somebody (Ralph? Dag?) could probably add some more info. -- Solvention Egermannstr. 6-8 53359 Rheinbach Tel: +49 2226 158179-0 Fax: +49 2226 158179-9 http://www.solvention.de mailto:info@solvention.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3303 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Url : http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-promo/attachments/20080901/3fe1a8fd/smime.bin From mm at gcug.de Mon Sep 1 10:38:12 2008 From: mm at gcug.de (Marcus Moeller) Date: Mon Sep 1 10:38:14 2008 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> Message-ID: <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> Hi all. Is there already a Point of Contact: for T-Dose? Dag, I guess you wanted to take part? Maybe we could setup a little wiki page for that. During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. Best Regards Marcus From dag at centos.org Mon Sep 1 10:43:35 2008 From: dag at centos.org (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon Sep 1 10:43:39 2008 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Andreas Rogge wrote: >> > Another problem is T-Dose. It is scheduled for the same weekend as >> > LinuxWorld and I feel we're not (yet) able to handle two events in >> > parallel. >> >> If we split into two groups, we should be ok to manage two events ? > Yeah, that's what I thought, too. However, for anything that's not FOSDEM > we're usually only a few people. > You need at least two people to run a booth and while this is probably not an > issue for LinuxWorld it might become one for T-Dose. > > Maybe we should call for participants right now so we can decide which events > are possible. > >> >> I've not been to anything since Fosdem'08 - so where should I look to >> see whats the 'usual stuff' that CentOS does at these events ? >> > What we had at FrOSCon was: > - a Presentation (Ralph or Dag should have these in different Languages) > running at the booth > - a Demo-System to try CentOS yourself > - DVD on Demand (we had issues burning them) > - Stickers as a giveaway > > However, I guess as I wasn't attending LinuxTag somebody (Ralph? Dag?) could > probably add some more info. I will create a page with the above and some rules for booths later today. Basicly what Andreas said, except that we also have some posters (printed by various people in various quality) and flyers from FOSDEM 2007. And of course our shirts/names to show we are a team. The presentation slides that we show at the booth is to make sure people have something to look at without requiring to ask. And maybe it gives food for thought that becomes a question :) Also it is important to try and address people that stand still in front of the booth. Not everyone dares to ask a question, but if you politely ask them if they know CentOS already you can start to interact. Surprisingly about half of the people that stand still in front of the booth are using it already. So apparently they are there for a chat. There is not a lot to demonstrate that is unique to CentOS so apart from demonstrating some technology that comes up in a question, the demo system is not really used to show something specific. -- -- dag wieers, dag@centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From dag at centos.org Mon Sep 1 12:03:45 2008 From: dag at centos.org (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon Sep 1 12:03:51 2008 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Marcus Moeller wrote: > Is there already a Point of Contact: for T-Dose? Dag, I guess you > wanted to take part? Maybe we could setup a little wiki page for that. I will do the T-DOSE. I think the general rule is that someone with the native tongue does the organisation, because I have been bitten before by German mails that apparently were important ;-) Also, it is useful to have the same people involved with the same conference if possible. So Andreas takes care of FrOSCon, Ralph does LinuxTag, I do T-DOSE/FOSDEM/LinuxWorld NL/LinuxWorld BE. There are a lot of places we don't do conferences yet in Europe. And a lot more outside of Europe. > During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit > her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. That's fine. In itself it is ok if we have a lot of people, but the booth-size often is sized to only a limited number. Too many people at the booth makes the booth more chaotic and doesn't lead to a better service. So we should make sure that at any time the booth is too crowded (and the booth is not limited to only one person). Anyway, if I find the time this evening I will make a page about what we expect for a booth and what things we may be able to offer. -- -- dag wieers, dag@centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From mm at gcug.de Mon Sep 1 12:12:37 2008 From: mm at gcug.de (Marcus Moeller) Date: Mon Sep 1 12:12:40 2008 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <14e58b610809010512v5829f6derfe7c18ea31d3be38@mail.gmail.com> Hi Dag. >> During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit >> her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. > > That's fine. In itself it is ok if we have a lot of people, but the > booth-size often is sized to only a limited number. Too many people at the > booth makes the booth more chaotic and doesn't lead to a better service. This is a question of organization. It depends on the booth size you promoted to the event operators. I thing a single table is good for 2-3 people. For 3-5 people we are in need of a second table (where we could also place a second PC with TFT for presentation of Compiz or something else) Best Regards Marcus From dag at centos.org Mon Sep 1 12:38:05 2008 From: dag at centos.org (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon Sep 1 12:38:09 2008 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809010512v5829f6derfe7c18ea31d3be38@mail.gmail.com> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> <14e58b610809010512v5829f6derfe7c18ea31d3be38@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Marcus Moeller wrote: >>> During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit >>> her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. >> >> That's fine. In itself it is ok if we have a lot of people, but the >> booth-size often is sized to only a limited number. Too many people at the >> booth makes the booth more chaotic and doesn't lead to a better service. > > This is a question of organization. It depends on the booth size you > promoted to the event operators. I thing a single table is good for > 2-3 people. For 3-5 people we are in need of a second table (where we > could also place a second PC with TFT for presentation of Compiz or > something else) Tough luck asking for this at T-DOSE. It all depends on the conference you are at. I don't think we really need a bigger booth, we just need to manage it better (ie. people that are just sitting there and doing nothing are not at all useful). And I don't think we ever needed 5 people at a booth because of questions. For a conference like LinuxTag a bigger booth is possible, but for something like T-DOSE I wouldn't dare to ask for a bigger table because the event is of a different magnitude. -- -- dag wieers, dag@centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From mail-lists at karan.org Thu Sep 18 01:00:11 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Thu Sep 18 00:59:58 2008 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> Dag Wieers wrote: > Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently is > taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a website > that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although it is not > on the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? As promised, I called Lance in the day today, twice. And got no response, have sent him an SMS to chase. As soon as there is feedback, I will post here to this list with details etc on that event. In the mean time, I will still count on being there myself. I have half a stack of CentOS flyers and my CentOS shirt :D does anyone have ideas on where one might get stickers / posters printed around here ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219@icq From mm at gcug.de Thu Sep 18 06:46:26 2008 From: mm at gcug.de (Marcus Moeller) Date: Thu Sep 18 06:46:33 2008 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> Message-ID: <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Dear Karanbir. >> Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently is >> taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a website >> that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although it is not on >> the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? > > As promised, I called Lance in the day today, twice. And got no response, > have sent him an SMS to chase. As soon as there is feedback, I will post > here to this list with details etc on that event. > > In the mean time, I will still count on being there myself. I have half a > stack of CentOS flyers and my CentOS shirt :D does anyone have ideas on > where one might get stickers / posters printed around here ? Send me your address and I will snail you a bunch of stickers. Best Regards Marcus From lance at centos.org Thu Sep 18 08:48:04 2008 From: lance at centos.org (Lance Davis) Date: Thu Sep 18 08:48:08 2008 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Sep 2008, Marcus Moeller wrote: > Dear Karanbir. > >>> Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently is >>> taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a website >>> that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although it is not on >>> the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? >> >> As promised, I called Lance in the day today, twice. And got no response, >> have sent him an SMS to chase. As soon as there is feedback, I will post >> here to this list with details etc on that event. Sorry - I was away from phone yesterday ... CentOS does have a booth at the expo - I will confirm details as soon as I have them. Cheers Lance -- uklinux.net - The ISP of choice for the discerning Linux user. From mail-lists at karan.org Thu Sep 18 11:53:37 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Thu Sep 18 11:45:33 2008 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48D24141.3000004@karan.org> Lance Davis wrote: > CentOS does have a booth at the expo - I will confirm details as soon as > I have them. Sounds good. - KB From dag at wieers.com Thu Sep 18 16:55:42 2008 From: dag at wieers.com (Dag Wieers) Date: Thu Sep 18 16:55:47 2008 Subject: [CentOS-promo] T-DOSE 2008 CentOS booth Message-ID: Hi, I want to see how many people are interested to help with the CentOS booth at T-DOSE 2008. At the moment only Marcus has shown interest, but if we don't have sufficient people to man the booth I may have to cancel it. Let me know, -- -- dag wieers, dag@wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From dag at wieers.com Sun Sep 21 22:03:58 2008 From: dag at wieers.com (Dag Wieers) Date: Sun Sep 21 22:04:02 2008 Subject: [CentOS-promo] Linuxworl Expo, Utrecht, NL Message-ID: Hi, I got an invitation from the Open Source pavilion to have a CentOS presentation at Linuxworld Expo, Utrecht, NL at 12 or 13 November 2008, like last year. Is anyone interested to do this presentation ? We have to send an abstract of about 100 words before Wednesday if someone wants to take it. -- -- dag wieers, dag@wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Armijn Hemel To: Dag Wieers Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:46:22 +0200 Subject: CentOS lezing op Linuxworld? X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=2.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 hallo Dag, binnenkort (12 & 13 november) is er weer een LinuxWorld in Utrecht. Dit jaar is er, net alsvorig jaar, weer een Open Source paviljoen (op een wat betere locatie dan vorig jaar) waar we een aantal lezingen gaan houden. Deze keer zijn het er minder dan vorig jaar en duren ze ook langer (20 minuten). Denk je dat CentOS weer te porren is daarvoor? Zo ja, wie is het slachtoffer aan jullie kant en mag ik dan, voor woensdag, een abstract van 100 woorden? alvast bedankt, armijn -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- armijn@uulug.nl | http://www.uulug.nl/ | UULug: Utrecht Linux Users Group ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dag at wieers.com Sun Sep 21 22:14:33 2008 From: dag at wieers.com (Dag Wieers) Date: Sun Sep 21 22:14:36 2008 Subject: [CentOS-promo] CentOS Promo SIG Message-ID: Hi, After considerable thought I decided to step down from leading the CentOS Promo SIG to give someone else the opportunity to organize booths and presentations and travel around the world with a box of flyers. Thanks to everyone who helped the past 2 years. I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did :-) -- -- dag wieers, dag@wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From mail-lists at karan.org Wed Sep 24 12:25:45 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Wed Sep 24 12:25:23 2008 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48DA31C9.90205@karan.org> Marcus Moeller wrote: > Send me your address and I will snail you a bunch of stickers. The Stickers arrived today, thanks for those. - KB From mail-lists at karan.org Wed Sep 24 12:26:44 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Wed Sep 24 12:26:21 2008 Subject: [CentOS-promo] CentOS Promo SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48DA3204.9060208@karan.org> Dag Wieers wrote: > Hi, > > After considerable thought I decided to step down from leading the > CentOS Promo SIG to give someone else the opportunity to organize booths > and presentations and travel around the world with a box of flyers. > > Thanks to everyone who helped the past 2 years. I hope you enjoyed it as > much as I did :-) I am sad you made this decision. But I want to really thank you for all your efforts ( and we all know there were plenty ) in promotion CentOS at events and speaking about CentOS everywhere. And still hoping you stay active in the promo squad! - KB From a.rogge at solvention.de Mon Sep 1 09:23:46 2008 From: a.rogge at solvention.de (Andreas Rogge) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:23:46 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> Message-ID: <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> I just had a look at the dates for LinuxWorld and T-Dose. LinuxWorld is scheduled on my birthday - obviously that's why it was cancelled last year ;) However, I won't be available this year. Another problem is T-Dose. It is scheduled for the same weekend as LinuxWorld and I feel we're not (yet) able to handle two events in parallel. Karanbir Singh schrieb: > Hi Dag, > > Dag Wieers wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently >> is taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a >> website that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although >> it is not on the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? >> >> http://www.linuxexpo.org.uk/centos > > I dont know much about it either, but I am guessing they are reusing > earlier info. There is a good chance that I will be around in London > those days - if so, can make it there. > -- Solvention Egermannstr. 6-8 53359 Rheinbach Tel: +49 2226 158179-0 Fax: +49 2226 158179-9 http://www.solvention.de mailto:info at solvention.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've not been to anything since Fosdem'08 - so where should I look to see whats the 'usual stuff' that CentOS does at these events ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219 at icq From a.rogge at solvention.de Mon Sep 1 10:19:31 2008 From: a.rogge at solvention.de (Andreas Rogge) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:19:31 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> Message-ID: <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> >> Another problem is T-Dose. It is scheduled for the same weekend as >> LinuxWorld and I feel we're not (yet) able to handle two events in >> parallel. > > If we split into two groups, we should be ok to manage two events ? Yeah, that's what I thought, too. However, for anything that's not FOSDEM we're usually only a few people. You need at least two people to run a booth and while this is probably not an issue for LinuxWorld it might become one for T-Dose. Maybe we should call for participants right now so we can decide which events are possible. > > I've not been to anything since Fosdem'08 - so where should I look to > see whats the 'usual stuff' that CentOS does at these events ? > What we had at FrOSCon was: - a Presentation (Ralph or Dag should have these in different Languages) running at the booth - a Demo-System to try CentOS yourself - DVD on Demand (we had issues burning them) - Stickers as a giveaway However, I guess as I wasn't attending LinuxTag somebody (Ralph? Dag?) could probably add some more info. -- Solvention Egermannstr. 6-8 53359 Rheinbach Tel: +49 2226 158179-0 Fax: +49 2226 158179-9 http://www.solvention.de mailto:info at solvention.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Best Regards Marcus From dag at centos.org Mon Sep 1 10:43:35 2008 From: dag at centos.org (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:43:35 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Andreas Rogge wrote: >> > Another problem is T-Dose. It is scheduled for the same weekend as >> > LinuxWorld and I feel we're not (yet) able to handle two events in >> > parallel. >> >> If we split into two groups, we should be ok to manage two events ? > Yeah, that's what I thought, too. However, for anything that's not FOSDEM > we're usually only a few people. > You need at least two people to run a booth and while this is probably not an > issue for LinuxWorld it might become one for T-Dose. > > Maybe we should call for participants right now so we can decide which events > are possible. > >> >> I've not been to anything since Fosdem'08 - so where should I look to >> see whats the 'usual stuff' that CentOS does at these events ? >> > What we had at FrOSCon was: > - a Presentation (Ralph or Dag should have these in different Languages) > running at the booth > - a Demo-System to try CentOS yourself > - DVD on Demand (we had issues burning them) > - Stickers as a giveaway > > However, I guess as I wasn't attending LinuxTag somebody (Ralph? Dag?) could > probably add some more info. I will create a page with the above and some rules for booths later today. Basicly what Andreas said, except that we also have some posters (printed by various people in various quality) and flyers from FOSDEM 2007. And of course our shirts/names to show we are a team. The presentation slides that we show at the booth is to make sure people have something to look at without requiring to ask. And maybe it gives food for thought that becomes a question :) Also it is important to try and address people that stand still in front of the booth. Not everyone dares to ask a question, but if you politely ask them if they know CentOS already you can start to interact. Surprisingly about half of the people that stand still in front of the booth are using it already. So apparently they are there for a chat. There is not a lot to demonstrate that is unique to CentOS so apart from demonstrating some technology that comes up in a question, the demo system is not really used to show something specific. -- -- dag wieers, dag at centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From dag at centos.org Mon Sep 1 12:03:45 2008 From: dag at centos.org (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:03:45 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Marcus Moeller wrote: > Is there already a Point of Contact: for T-Dose? Dag, I guess you > wanted to take part? Maybe we could setup a little wiki page for that. I will do the T-DOSE. I think the general rule is that someone with the native tongue does the organisation, because I have been bitten before by German mails that apparently were important ;-) Also, it is useful to have the same people involved with the same conference if possible. So Andreas takes care of FrOSCon, Ralph does LinuxTag, I do T-DOSE/FOSDEM/LinuxWorld NL/LinuxWorld BE. There are a lot of places we don't do conferences yet in Europe. And a lot more outside of Europe. > During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit > her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. That's fine. In itself it is ok if we have a lot of people, but the booth-size often is sized to only a limited number. Too many people at the booth makes the booth more chaotic and doesn't lead to a better service. So we should make sure that at any time the booth is too crowded (and the booth is not limited to only one person). Anyway, if I find the time this evening I will make a page about what we expect for a booth and what things we may be able to offer. -- -- dag wieers, dag at centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From mm at gcug.de Mon Sep 1 12:12:37 2008 From: mm at gcug.de (Marcus Moeller) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:12:37 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <14e58b610809010512v5829f6derfe7c18ea31d3be38@mail.gmail.com> Hi Dag. >> During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit >> her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. > > That's fine. In itself it is ok if we have a lot of people, but the > booth-size often is sized to only a limited number. Too many people at the > booth makes the booth more chaotic and doesn't lead to a better service. This is a question of organization. It depends on the booth size you promoted to the event operators. I thing a single table is good for 2-3 people. For 3-5 people we are in need of a second table (where we could also place a second PC with TFT for presentation of Compiz or something else) Best Regards Marcus From dag at centos.org Mon Sep 1 12:38:05 2008 From: dag at centos.org (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:38:05 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809010512v5829f6derfe7c18ea31d3be38@mail.gmail.com> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> <14e58b610809010512v5829f6derfe7c18ea31d3be38@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Marcus Moeller wrote: >>> During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit >>> her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. >> >> That's fine. In itself it is ok if we have a lot of people, but the >> booth-size often is sized to only a limited number. Too many people at the >> booth makes the booth more chaotic and doesn't lead to a better service. > > This is a question of organization. It depends on the booth size you > promoted to the event operators. I thing a single table is good for > 2-3 people. For 3-5 people we are in need of a second table (where we > could also place a second PC with TFT for presentation of Compiz or > something else) Tough luck asking for this at T-DOSE. It all depends on the conference you are at. I don't think we really need a bigger booth, we just need to manage it better (ie. people that are just sitting there and doing nothing are not at all useful). And I don't think we ever needed 5 people at a booth because of questions. For a conference like LinuxTag a bigger booth is possible, but for something like T-DOSE I wouldn't dare to ask for a bigger table because the event is of a different magnitude. -- -- dag wieers, dag at centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From mail-lists at karan.org Thu Sep 18 01:00:11 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:00:11 +0100 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> Dag Wieers wrote: > Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently is > taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a website > that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although it is not > on the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? As promised, I called Lance in the day today, twice. And got no response, have sent him an SMS to chase. As soon as there is feedback, I will post here to this list with details etc on that event. In the mean time, I will still count on being there myself. I have half a stack of CentOS flyers and my CentOS shirt :D does anyone have ideas on where one might get stickers / posters printed around here ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219 at icq From mm at gcug.de Thu Sep 18 06:46:26 2008 From: mm at gcug.de (Marcus Moeller) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:46:26 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> Message-ID: <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Dear Karanbir. >> Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently is >> taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a website >> that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although it is not on >> the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? > > As promised, I called Lance in the day today, twice. And got no response, > have sent him an SMS to chase. As soon as there is feedback, I will post > here to this list with details etc on that event. > > In the mean time, I will still count on being there myself. I have half a > stack of CentOS flyers and my CentOS shirt :D does anyone have ideas on > where one might get stickers / posters printed around here ? Send me your address and I will snail you a bunch of stickers. Best Regards Marcus From lance at centos.org Thu Sep 18 08:48:04 2008 From: lance at centos.org (Lance Davis) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:48:04 +0100 (BST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Sep 2008, Marcus Moeller wrote: > Dear Karanbir. > >>> Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently is >>> taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a website >>> that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although it is not on >>> the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? >> >> As promised, I called Lance in the day today, twice. And got no response, >> have sent him an SMS to chase. As soon as there is feedback, I will post >> here to this list with details etc on that event. Sorry - I was away from phone yesterday ... CentOS does have a booth at the expo - I will confirm details as soon as I have them. Cheers Lance -- uklinux.net - The ISP of choice for the discerning Linux user. From mail-lists at karan.org Thu Sep 18 11:53:37 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:53:37 +0100 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48D24141.3000004@karan.org> Lance Davis wrote: > CentOS does have a booth at the expo - I will confirm details as soon as > I have them. Sounds good. - KB From dag at wieers.com Thu Sep 18 16:55:42 2008 From: dag at wieers.com (Dag Wieers) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:55:42 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] T-DOSE 2008 CentOS booth Message-ID: Hi, I want to see how many people are interested to help with the CentOS booth at T-DOSE 2008. At the moment only Marcus has shown interest, but if we don't have sufficient people to man the booth I may have to cancel it. Let me know, -- -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From dag at wieers.com Sun Sep 21 22:03:58 2008 From: dag at wieers.com (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:03:58 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] Linuxworl Expo, Utrecht, NL Message-ID: Hi, I got an invitation from the Open Source pavilion to have a CentOS presentation at Linuxworld Expo, Utrecht, NL at 12 or 13 November 2008, like last year. Is anyone interested to do this presentation ? We have to send an abstract of about 100 words before Wednesday if someone wants to take it. -- -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Armijn Hemel To: Dag Wieers Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:46:22 +0200 Subject: CentOS lezing op Linuxworld? X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=2.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 hallo Dag, binnenkort (12 & 13 november) is er weer een LinuxWorld in Utrecht. Dit jaar is er, net alsvorig jaar, weer een Open Source paviljoen (op een wat betere locatie dan vorig jaar) waar we een aantal lezingen gaan houden. Deze keer zijn het er minder dan vorig jaar en duren ze ook langer (20 minuten). Denk je dat CentOS weer te porren is daarvoor? Zo ja, wie is het slachtoffer aan jullie kant en mag ik dan, voor woensdag, een abstract van 100 woorden? alvast bedankt, armijn -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- armijn at uulug.nl | http://www.uulug.nl/ | UULug: Utrecht Linux Users Group ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dag at wieers.com Sun Sep 21 22:14:33 2008 From: dag at wieers.com (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:14:33 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] CentOS Promo SIG Message-ID: Hi, After considerable thought I decided to step down from leading the CentOS Promo SIG to give someone else the opportunity to organize booths and presentations and travel around the world with a box of flyers. Thanks to everyone who helped the past 2 years. I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did :-) -- -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From mail-lists at karan.org Wed Sep 24 12:25:45 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:25:45 +0100 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48DA31C9.90205@karan.org> Marcus Moeller wrote: > Send me your address and I will snail you a bunch of stickers. The Stickers arrived today, thanks for those. - KB From mail-lists at karan.org Wed Sep 24 12:26:44 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:26:44 +0100 Subject: [CentOS-promo] CentOS Promo SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48DA3204.9060208@karan.org> Dag Wieers wrote: > Hi, > > After considerable thought I decided to step down from leading the > CentOS Promo SIG to give someone else the opportunity to organize booths > and presentations and travel around the world with a box of flyers. > > Thanks to everyone who helped the past 2 years. I hope you enjoyed it as > much as I did :-) I am sad you made this decision. But I want to really thank you for all your efforts ( and we all know there were plenty ) in promotion CentOS at events and speaking about CentOS everywhere. And still hoping you stay active in the promo squad! - KB From a.rogge at solvention.de Mon Sep 1 09:23:46 2008 From: a.rogge at solvention.de (Andreas Rogge) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:23:46 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> Message-ID: <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> I just had a look at the dates for LinuxWorld and T-Dose. LinuxWorld is scheduled on my birthday - obviously that's why it was cancelled last year ;) However, I won't be available this year. Another problem is T-Dose. It is scheduled for the same weekend as LinuxWorld and I feel we're not (yet) able to handle two events in parallel. Karanbir Singh schrieb: > Hi Dag, > > Dag Wieers wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently >> is taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a >> website that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although >> it is not on the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? >> >> http://www.linuxexpo.org.uk/centos > > I dont know much about it either, but I am guessing they are reusing > earlier info. There is a good chance that I will be around in London > those days - if so, can make it there. > -- Solvention Egermannstr. 6-8 53359 Rheinbach Tel: +49 2226 158179-0 Fax: +49 2226 158179-9 http://www.solvention.de mailto:info at solvention.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've not been to anything since Fosdem'08 - so where should I look to see whats the 'usual stuff' that CentOS does at these events ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219 at icq From a.rogge at solvention.de Mon Sep 1 10:19:31 2008 From: a.rogge at solvention.de (Andreas Rogge) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:19:31 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> Message-ID: <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> >> Another problem is T-Dose. It is scheduled for the same weekend as >> LinuxWorld and I feel we're not (yet) able to handle two events in >> parallel. > > If we split into two groups, we should be ok to manage two events ? Yeah, that's what I thought, too. However, for anything that's not FOSDEM we're usually only a few people. You need at least two people to run a booth and while this is probably not an issue for LinuxWorld it might become one for T-Dose. Maybe we should call for participants right now so we can decide which events are possible. > > I've not been to anything since Fosdem'08 - so where should I look to > see whats the 'usual stuff' that CentOS does at these events ? > What we had at FrOSCon was: - a Presentation (Ralph or Dag should have these in different Languages) running at the booth - a Demo-System to try CentOS yourself - DVD on Demand (we had issues burning them) - Stickers as a giveaway However, I guess as I wasn't attending LinuxTag somebody (Ralph? Dag?) could probably add some more info. -- Solvention Egermannstr. 6-8 53359 Rheinbach Tel: +49 2226 158179-0 Fax: +49 2226 158179-9 http://www.solvention.de mailto:info at solvention.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3303 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From mm at gcug.de Mon Sep 1 10:38:12 2008 From: mm at gcug.de (Marcus Moeller) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:38:12 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> Message-ID: <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> Hi all. Is there already a Point of Contact: for T-Dose? Dag, I guess you wanted to take part? Maybe we could setup a little wiki page for that. During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. Best Regards Marcus From dag at centos.org Mon Sep 1 10:43:35 2008 From: dag at centos.org (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:43:35 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Andreas Rogge wrote: >> > Another problem is T-Dose. It is scheduled for the same weekend as >> > LinuxWorld and I feel we're not (yet) able to handle two events in >> > parallel. >> >> If we split into two groups, we should be ok to manage two events ? > Yeah, that's what I thought, too. However, for anything that's not FOSDEM > we're usually only a few people. > You need at least two people to run a booth and while this is probably not an > issue for LinuxWorld it might become one for T-Dose. > > Maybe we should call for participants right now so we can decide which events > are possible. > >> >> I've not been to anything since Fosdem'08 - so where should I look to >> see whats the 'usual stuff' that CentOS does at these events ? >> > What we had at FrOSCon was: > - a Presentation (Ralph or Dag should have these in different Languages) > running at the booth > - a Demo-System to try CentOS yourself > - DVD on Demand (we had issues burning them) > - Stickers as a giveaway > > However, I guess as I wasn't attending LinuxTag somebody (Ralph? Dag?) could > probably add some more info. I will create a page with the above and some rules for booths later today. Basicly what Andreas said, except that we also have some posters (printed by various people in various quality) and flyers from FOSDEM 2007. And of course our shirts/names to show we are a team. The presentation slides that we show at the booth is to make sure people have something to look at without requiring to ask. And maybe it gives food for thought that becomes a question :) Also it is important to try and address people that stand still in front of the booth. Not everyone dares to ask a question, but if you politely ask them if they know CentOS already you can start to interact. Surprisingly about half of the people that stand still in front of the booth are using it already. So apparently they are there for a chat. There is not a lot to demonstrate that is unique to CentOS so apart from demonstrating some technology that comes up in a question, the demo system is not really used to show something specific. -- -- dag wieers, dag at centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From dag at centos.org Mon Sep 1 12:03:45 2008 From: dag at centos.org (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:03:45 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Marcus Moeller wrote: > Is there already a Point of Contact: for T-Dose? Dag, I guess you > wanted to take part? Maybe we could setup a little wiki page for that. I will do the T-DOSE. I think the general rule is that someone with the native tongue does the organisation, because I have been bitten before by German mails that apparently were important ;-) Also, it is useful to have the same people involved with the same conference if possible. So Andreas takes care of FrOSCon, Ralph does LinuxTag, I do T-DOSE/FOSDEM/LinuxWorld NL/LinuxWorld BE. There are a lot of places we don't do conferences yet in Europe. And a lot more outside of Europe. > During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit > her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. That's fine. In itself it is ok if we have a lot of people, but the booth-size often is sized to only a limited number. Too many people at the booth makes the booth more chaotic and doesn't lead to a better service. So we should make sure that at any time the booth is too crowded (and the booth is not limited to only one person). Anyway, if I find the time this evening I will make a page about what we expect for a booth and what things we may be able to offer. -- -- dag wieers, dag at centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From mm at gcug.de Mon Sep 1 12:12:37 2008 From: mm at gcug.de (Marcus Moeller) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:12:37 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <14e58b610809010512v5829f6derfe7c18ea31d3be38@mail.gmail.com> Hi Dag. >> During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit >> her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. > > That's fine. In itself it is ok if we have a lot of people, but the > booth-size often is sized to only a limited number. Too many people at the > booth makes the booth more chaotic and doesn't lead to a better service. This is a question of organization. It depends on the booth size you promoted to the event operators. I thing a single table is good for 2-3 people. For 3-5 people we are in need of a second table (where we could also place a second PC with TFT for presentation of Compiz or something else) Best Regards Marcus From dag at centos.org Mon Sep 1 12:38:05 2008 From: dag at centos.org (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:38:05 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809010512v5829f6derfe7c18ea31d3be38@mail.gmail.com> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> <14e58b610809010512v5829f6derfe7c18ea31d3be38@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Marcus Moeller wrote: >>> During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit >>> her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. >> >> That's fine. In itself it is ok if we have a lot of people, but the >> booth-size often is sized to only a limited number. Too many people at the >> booth makes the booth more chaotic and doesn't lead to a better service. > > This is a question of organization. It depends on the booth size you > promoted to the event operators. I thing a single table is good for > 2-3 people. For 3-5 people we are in need of a second table (where we > could also place a second PC with TFT for presentation of Compiz or > something else) Tough luck asking for this at T-DOSE. It all depends on the conference you are at. I don't think we really need a bigger booth, we just need to manage it better (ie. people that are just sitting there and doing nothing are not at all useful). And I don't think we ever needed 5 people at a booth because of questions. For a conference like LinuxTag a bigger booth is possible, but for something like T-DOSE I wouldn't dare to ask for a bigger table because the event is of a different magnitude. -- -- dag wieers, dag at centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From mail-lists at karan.org Thu Sep 18 01:00:11 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:00:11 +0100 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> Dag Wieers wrote: > Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently is > taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a website > that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although it is not > on the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? As promised, I called Lance in the day today, twice. And got no response, have sent him an SMS to chase. As soon as there is feedback, I will post here to this list with details etc on that event. In the mean time, I will still count on being there myself. I have half a stack of CentOS flyers and my CentOS shirt :D does anyone have ideas on where one might get stickers / posters printed around here ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219 at icq From mm at gcug.de Thu Sep 18 06:46:26 2008 From: mm at gcug.de (Marcus Moeller) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:46:26 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> Message-ID: <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Dear Karanbir. >> Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently is >> taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a website >> that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although it is not on >> the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? > > As promised, I called Lance in the day today, twice. And got no response, > have sent him an SMS to chase. As soon as there is feedback, I will post > here to this list with details etc on that event. > > In the mean time, I will still count on being there myself. I have half a > stack of CentOS flyers and my CentOS shirt :D does anyone have ideas on > where one might get stickers / posters printed around here ? Send me your address and I will snail you a bunch of stickers. Best Regards Marcus From lance at centos.org Thu Sep 18 08:48:04 2008 From: lance at centos.org (Lance Davis) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:48:04 +0100 (BST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Sep 2008, Marcus Moeller wrote: > Dear Karanbir. > >>> Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently is >>> taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a website >>> that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although it is not on >>> the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? >> >> As promised, I called Lance in the day today, twice. And got no response, >> have sent him an SMS to chase. As soon as there is feedback, I will post >> here to this list with details etc on that event. Sorry - I was away from phone yesterday ... CentOS does have a booth at the expo - I will confirm details as soon as I have them. Cheers Lance -- uklinux.net - The ISP of choice for the discerning Linux user. From mail-lists at karan.org Thu Sep 18 11:53:37 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:53:37 +0100 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48D24141.3000004@karan.org> Lance Davis wrote: > CentOS does have a booth at the expo - I will confirm details as soon as > I have them. Sounds good. - KB From dag at wieers.com Thu Sep 18 16:55:42 2008 From: dag at wieers.com (Dag Wieers) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:55:42 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] T-DOSE 2008 CentOS booth Message-ID: Hi, I want to see how many people are interested to help with the CentOS booth at T-DOSE 2008. At the moment only Marcus has shown interest, but if we don't have sufficient people to man the booth I may have to cancel it. Let me know, -- -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From dag at wieers.com Sun Sep 21 22:03:58 2008 From: dag at wieers.com (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:03:58 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] Linuxworl Expo, Utrecht, NL Message-ID: Hi, I got an invitation from the Open Source pavilion to have a CentOS presentation at Linuxworld Expo, Utrecht, NL at 12 or 13 November 2008, like last year. Is anyone interested to do this presentation ? We have to send an abstract of about 100 words before Wednesday if someone wants to take it. -- -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Armijn Hemel To: Dag Wieers Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:46:22 +0200 Subject: CentOS lezing op Linuxworld? X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=2.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 hallo Dag, binnenkort (12 & 13 november) is er weer een LinuxWorld in Utrecht. Dit jaar is er, net alsvorig jaar, weer een Open Source paviljoen (op een wat betere locatie dan vorig jaar) waar we een aantal lezingen gaan houden. Deze keer zijn het er minder dan vorig jaar en duren ze ook langer (20 minuten). Denk je dat CentOS weer te porren is daarvoor? Zo ja, wie is het slachtoffer aan jullie kant en mag ik dan, voor woensdag, een abstract van 100 woorden? alvast bedankt, armijn -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- armijn at uulug.nl | http://www.uulug.nl/ | UULug: Utrecht Linux Users Group ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dag at wieers.com Sun Sep 21 22:14:33 2008 From: dag at wieers.com (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:14:33 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] CentOS Promo SIG Message-ID: Hi, After considerable thought I decided to step down from leading the CentOS Promo SIG to give someone else the opportunity to organize booths and presentations and travel around the world with a box of flyers. Thanks to everyone who helped the past 2 years. I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did :-) -- -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From mail-lists at karan.org Wed Sep 24 12:25:45 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:25:45 +0100 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48DA31C9.90205@karan.org> Marcus Moeller wrote: > Send me your address and I will snail you a bunch of stickers. The Stickers arrived today, thanks for those. - KB From mail-lists at karan.org Wed Sep 24 12:26:44 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:26:44 +0100 Subject: [CentOS-promo] CentOS Promo SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48DA3204.9060208@karan.org> Dag Wieers wrote: > Hi, > > After considerable thought I decided to step down from leading the > CentOS Promo SIG to give someone else the opportunity to organize booths > and presentations and travel around the world with a box of flyers. > > Thanks to everyone who helped the past 2 years. I hope you enjoyed it as > much as I did :-) I am sad you made this decision. But I want to really thank you for all your efforts ( and we all know there were plenty ) in promotion CentOS at events and speaking about CentOS everywhere. And still hoping you stay active in the promo squad! - KB From a.rogge at solvention.de Mon Sep 1 09:23:46 2008 From: a.rogge at solvention.de (Andreas Rogge) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:23:46 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> Message-ID: <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> I just had a look at the dates for LinuxWorld and T-Dose. LinuxWorld is scheduled on my birthday - obviously that's why it was cancelled last year ;) However, I won't be available this year. Another problem is T-Dose. It is scheduled for the same weekend as LinuxWorld and I feel we're not (yet) able to handle two events in parallel. Karanbir Singh schrieb: > Hi Dag, > > Dag Wieers wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently >> is taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a >> website that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although >> it is not on the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? >> >> http://www.linuxexpo.org.uk/centos > > I dont know much about it either, but I am guessing they are reusing > earlier info. There is a good chance that I will be around in London > those days - if so, can make it there. > -- Solvention Egermannstr. 6-8 53359 Rheinbach Tel: +49 2226 158179-0 Fax: +49 2226 158179-9 http://www.solvention.de mailto:info at solvention.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've not been to anything since Fosdem'08 - so where should I look to see whats the 'usual stuff' that CentOS does at these events ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219 at icq From a.rogge at solvention.de Mon Sep 1 10:19:31 2008 From: a.rogge at solvention.de (Andreas Rogge) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:19:31 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> Message-ID: <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> >> Another problem is T-Dose. It is scheduled for the same weekend as >> LinuxWorld and I feel we're not (yet) able to handle two events in >> parallel. > > If we split into two groups, we should be ok to manage two events ? Yeah, that's what I thought, too. However, for anything that's not FOSDEM we're usually only a few people. You need at least two people to run a booth and while this is probably not an issue for LinuxWorld it might become one for T-Dose. Maybe we should call for participants right now so we can decide which events are possible. > > I've not been to anything since Fosdem'08 - so where should I look to > see whats the 'usual stuff' that CentOS does at these events ? > What we had at FrOSCon was: - a Presentation (Ralph or Dag should have these in different Languages) running at the booth - a Demo-System to try CentOS yourself - DVD on Demand (we had issues burning them) - Stickers as a giveaway However, I guess as I wasn't attending LinuxTag somebody (Ralph? Dag?) could probably add some more info. -- Solvention Egermannstr. 6-8 53359 Rheinbach Tel: +49 2226 158179-0 Fax: +49 2226 158179-9 http://www.solvention.de mailto:info at solvention.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3303 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From mm at gcug.de Mon Sep 1 10:38:12 2008 From: mm at gcug.de (Marcus Moeller) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:38:12 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> Message-ID: <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> Hi all. Is there already a Point of Contact: for T-Dose? Dag, I guess you wanted to take part? Maybe we could setup a little wiki page for that. During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. Best Regards Marcus From dag at centos.org Mon Sep 1 10:43:35 2008 From: dag at centos.org (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:43:35 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Andreas Rogge wrote: >> > Another problem is T-Dose. It is scheduled for the same weekend as >> > LinuxWorld and I feel we're not (yet) able to handle two events in >> > parallel. >> >> If we split into two groups, we should be ok to manage two events ? > Yeah, that's what I thought, too. However, for anything that's not FOSDEM > we're usually only a few people. > You need at least two people to run a booth and while this is probably not an > issue for LinuxWorld it might become one for T-Dose. > > Maybe we should call for participants right now so we can decide which events > are possible. > >> >> I've not been to anything since Fosdem'08 - so where should I look to >> see whats the 'usual stuff' that CentOS does at these events ? >> > What we had at FrOSCon was: > - a Presentation (Ralph or Dag should have these in different Languages) > running at the booth > - a Demo-System to try CentOS yourself > - DVD on Demand (we had issues burning them) > - Stickers as a giveaway > > However, I guess as I wasn't attending LinuxTag somebody (Ralph? Dag?) could > probably add some more info. I will create a page with the above and some rules for booths later today. Basicly what Andreas said, except that we also have some posters (printed by various people in various quality) and flyers from FOSDEM 2007. And of course our shirts/names to show we are a team. The presentation slides that we show at the booth is to make sure people have something to look at without requiring to ask. And maybe it gives food for thought that becomes a question :) Also it is important to try and address people that stand still in front of the booth. Not everyone dares to ask a question, but if you politely ask them if they know CentOS already you can start to interact. Surprisingly about half of the people that stand still in front of the booth are using it already. So apparently they are there for a chat. There is not a lot to demonstrate that is unique to CentOS so apart from demonstrating some technology that comes up in a question, the demo system is not really used to show something specific. -- -- dag wieers, dag at centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From dag at centos.org Mon Sep 1 12:03:45 2008 From: dag at centos.org (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:03:45 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Marcus Moeller wrote: > Is there already a Point of Contact: for T-Dose? Dag, I guess you > wanted to take part? Maybe we could setup a little wiki page for that. I will do the T-DOSE. I think the general rule is that someone with the native tongue does the organisation, because I have been bitten before by German mails that apparently were important ;-) Also, it is useful to have the same people involved with the same conference if possible. So Andreas takes care of FrOSCon, Ralph does LinuxTag, I do T-DOSE/FOSDEM/LinuxWorld NL/LinuxWorld BE. There are a lot of places we don't do conferences yet in Europe. And a lot more outside of Europe. > During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit > her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. That's fine. In itself it is ok if we have a lot of people, but the booth-size often is sized to only a limited number. Too many people at the booth makes the booth more chaotic and doesn't lead to a better service. So we should make sure that at any time the booth is too crowded (and the booth is not limited to only one person). Anyway, if I find the time this evening I will make a page about what we expect for a booth and what things we may be able to offer. -- -- dag wieers, dag at centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From mm at gcug.de Mon Sep 1 12:12:37 2008 From: mm at gcug.de (Marcus Moeller) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:12:37 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <14e58b610809010512v5829f6derfe7c18ea31d3be38@mail.gmail.com> Hi Dag. >> During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit >> her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. > > That's fine. In itself it is ok if we have a lot of people, but the > booth-size often is sized to only a limited number. Too many people at the > booth makes the booth more chaotic and doesn't lead to a better service. This is a question of organization. It depends on the booth size you promoted to the event operators. I thing a single table is good for 2-3 people. For 3-5 people we are in need of a second table (where we could also place a second PC with TFT for presentation of Compiz or something else) Best Regards Marcus From dag at centos.org Mon Sep 1 12:38:05 2008 From: dag at centos.org (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:38:05 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809010512v5829f6derfe7c18ea31d3be38@mail.gmail.com> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> <14e58b610809010512v5829f6derfe7c18ea31d3be38@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Marcus Moeller wrote: >>> During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit >>> her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. >> >> That's fine. In itself it is ok if we have a lot of people, but the >> booth-size often is sized to only a limited number. Too many people at the >> booth makes the booth more chaotic and doesn't lead to a better service. > > This is a question of organization. It depends on the booth size you > promoted to the event operators. I thing a single table is good for > 2-3 people. For 3-5 people we are in need of a second table (where we > could also place a second PC with TFT for presentation of Compiz or > something else) Tough luck asking for this at T-DOSE. It all depends on the conference you are at. I don't think we really need a bigger booth, we just need to manage it better (ie. people that are just sitting there and doing nothing are not at all useful). And I don't think we ever needed 5 people at a booth because of questions. For a conference like LinuxTag a bigger booth is possible, but for something like T-DOSE I wouldn't dare to ask for a bigger table because the event is of a different magnitude. -- -- dag wieers, dag at centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From mail-lists at karan.org Thu Sep 18 01:00:11 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:00:11 +0100 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> Dag Wieers wrote: > Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently is > taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a website > that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although it is not > on the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? As promised, I called Lance in the day today, twice. And got no response, have sent him an SMS to chase. As soon as there is feedback, I will post here to this list with details etc on that event. In the mean time, I will still count on being there myself. I have half a stack of CentOS flyers and my CentOS shirt :D does anyone have ideas on where one might get stickers / posters printed around here ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219 at icq From mm at gcug.de Thu Sep 18 06:46:26 2008 From: mm at gcug.de (Marcus Moeller) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:46:26 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> Message-ID: <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Dear Karanbir. >> Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently is >> taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a website >> that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although it is not on >> the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? > > As promised, I called Lance in the day today, twice. And got no response, > have sent him an SMS to chase. As soon as there is feedback, I will post > here to this list with details etc on that event. > > In the mean time, I will still count on being there myself. I have half a > stack of CentOS flyers and my CentOS shirt :D does anyone have ideas on > where one might get stickers / posters printed around here ? Send me your address and I will snail you a bunch of stickers. Best Regards Marcus From lance at centos.org Thu Sep 18 08:48:04 2008 From: lance at centos.org (Lance Davis) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:48:04 +0100 (BST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Sep 2008, Marcus Moeller wrote: > Dear Karanbir. > >>> Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently is >>> taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a website >>> that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although it is not on >>> the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? >> >> As promised, I called Lance in the day today, twice. And got no response, >> have sent him an SMS to chase. As soon as there is feedback, I will post >> here to this list with details etc on that event. Sorry - I was away from phone yesterday ... CentOS does have a booth at the expo - I will confirm details as soon as I have them. Cheers Lance -- uklinux.net - The ISP of choice for the discerning Linux user. From mail-lists at karan.org Thu Sep 18 11:53:37 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:53:37 +0100 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48D24141.3000004@karan.org> Lance Davis wrote: > CentOS does have a booth at the expo - I will confirm details as soon as > I have them. Sounds good. - KB From dag at wieers.com Thu Sep 18 16:55:42 2008 From: dag at wieers.com (Dag Wieers) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:55:42 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] T-DOSE 2008 CentOS booth Message-ID: Hi, I want to see how many people are interested to help with the CentOS booth at T-DOSE 2008. At the moment only Marcus has shown interest, but if we don't have sufficient people to man the booth I may have to cancel it. Let me know, -- -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From dag at wieers.com Sun Sep 21 22:03:58 2008 From: dag at wieers.com (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:03:58 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] Linuxworl Expo, Utrecht, NL Message-ID: Hi, I got an invitation from the Open Source pavilion to have a CentOS presentation at Linuxworld Expo, Utrecht, NL at 12 or 13 November 2008, like last year. Is anyone interested to do this presentation ? We have to send an abstract of about 100 words before Wednesday if someone wants to take it. -- -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Armijn Hemel To: Dag Wieers Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:46:22 +0200 Subject: CentOS lezing op Linuxworld? X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=2.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 hallo Dag, binnenkort (12 & 13 november) is er weer een LinuxWorld in Utrecht. Dit jaar is er, net alsvorig jaar, weer een Open Source paviljoen (op een wat betere locatie dan vorig jaar) waar we een aantal lezingen gaan houden. Deze keer zijn het er minder dan vorig jaar en duren ze ook langer (20 minuten). Denk je dat CentOS weer te porren is daarvoor? Zo ja, wie is het slachtoffer aan jullie kant en mag ik dan, voor woensdag, een abstract van 100 woorden? alvast bedankt, armijn -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- armijn at uulug.nl | http://www.uulug.nl/ | UULug: Utrecht Linux Users Group ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dag at wieers.com Sun Sep 21 22:14:33 2008 From: dag at wieers.com (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:14:33 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] CentOS Promo SIG Message-ID: Hi, After considerable thought I decided to step down from leading the CentOS Promo SIG to give someone else the opportunity to organize booths and presentations and travel around the world with a box of flyers. Thanks to everyone who helped the past 2 years. I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did :-) -- -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From mail-lists at karan.org Wed Sep 24 12:25:45 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:25:45 +0100 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48DA31C9.90205@karan.org> Marcus Moeller wrote: > Send me your address and I will snail you a bunch of stickers. The Stickers arrived today, thanks for those. - KB From mail-lists at karan.org Wed Sep 24 12:26:44 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:26:44 +0100 Subject: [CentOS-promo] CentOS Promo SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48DA3204.9060208@karan.org> Dag Wieers wrote: > Hi, > > After considerable thought I decided to step down from leading the > CentOS Promo SIG to give someone else the opportunity to organize booths > and presentations and travel around the world with a box of flyers. > > Thanks to everyone who helped the past 2 years. I hope you enjoyed it as > much as I did :-) I am sad you made this decision. But I want to really thank you for all your efforts ( and we all know there were plenty ) in promotion CentOS at events and speaking about CentOS everywhere. And still hoping you stay active in the promo squad! - KB From a.rogge at solvention.de Mon Sep 1 09:23:46 2008 From: a.rogge at solvention.de (Andreas Rogge) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:23:46 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> Message-ID: <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> I just had a look at the dates for LinuxWorld and T-Dose. LinuxWorld is scheduled on my birthday - obviously that's why it was cancelled last year ;) However, I won't be available this year. Another problem is T-Dose. It is scheduled for the same weekend as LinuxWorld and I feel we're not (yet) able to handle two events in parallel. Karanbir Singh schrieb: > Hi Dag, > > Dag Wieers wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently >> is taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a >> website that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although >> it is not on the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? >> >> http://www.linuxexpo.org.uk/centos > > I dont know much about it either, but I am guessing they are reusing > earlier info. There is a good chance that I will be around in London > those days - if so, can make it there. > -- Solvention Egermannstr. 6-8 53359 Rheinbach Tel: +49 2226 158179-0 Fax: +49 2226 158179-9 http://www.solvention.de mailto:info at solvention.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've not been to anything since Fosdem'08 - so where should I look to see whats the 'usual stuff' that CentOS does at these events ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219 at icq From a.rogge at solvention.de Mon Sep 1 10:19:31 2008 From: a.rogge at solvention.de (Andreas Rogge) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:19:31 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> Message-ID: <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> >> Another problem is T-Dose. It is scheduled for the same weekend as >> LinuxWorld and I feel we're not (yet) able to handle two events in >> parallel. > > If we split into two groups, we should be ok to manage two events ? Yeah, that's what I thought, too. However, for anything that's not FOSDEM we're usually only a few people. You need at least two people to run a booth and while this is probably not an issue for LinuxWorld it might become one for T-Dose. Maybe we should call for participants right now so we can decide which events are possible. > > I've not been to anything since Fosdem'08 - so where should I look to > see whats the 'usual stuff' that CentOS does at these events ? > What we had at FrOSCon was: - a Presentation (Ralph or Dag should have these in different Languages) running at the booth - a Demo-System to try CentOS yourself - DVD on Demand (we had issues burning them) - Stickers as a giveaway However, I guess as I wasn't attending LinuxTag somebody (Ralph? Dag?) could probably add some more info. -- Solvention Egermannstr. 6-8 53359 Rheinbach Tel: +49 2226 158179-0 Fax: +49 2226 158179-9 http://www.solvention.de mailto:info at solvention.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3303 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From mm at gcug.de Mon Sep 1 10:38:12 2008 From: mm at gcug.de (Marcus Moeller) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:38:12 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> Message-ID: <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> Hi all. Is there already a Point of Contact: for T-Dose? Dag, I guess you wanted to take part? Maybe we could setup a little wiki page for that. During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. Best Regards Marcus From dag at centos.org Mon Sep 1 10:43:35 2008 From: dag at centos.org (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:43:35 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Andreas Rogge wrote: >> > Another problem is T-Dose. It is scheduled for the same weekend as >> > LinuxWorld and I feel we're not (yet) able to handle two events in >> > parallel. >> >> If we split into two groups, we should be ok to manage two events ? > Yeah, that's what I thought, too. However, for anything that's not FOSDEM > we're usually only a few people. > You need at least two people to run a booth and while this is probably not an > issue for LinuxWorld it might become one for T-Dose. > > Maybe we should call for participants right now so we can decide which events > are possible. > >> >> I've not been to anything since Fosdem'08 - so where should I look to >> see whats the 'usual stuff' that CentOS does at these events ? >> > What we had at FrOSCon was: > - a Presentation (Ralph or Dag should have these in different Languages) > running at the booth > - a Demo-System to try CentOS yourself > - DVD on Demand (we had issues burning them) > - Stickers as a giveaway > > However, I guess as I wasn't attending LinuxTag somebody (Ralph? Dag?) could > probably add some more info. I will create a page with the above and some rules for booths later today. Basicly what Andreas said, except that we also have some posters (printed by various people in various quality) and flyers from FOSDEM 2007. And of course our shirts/names to show we are a team. The presentation slides that we show at the booth is to make sure people have something to look at without requiring to ask. And maybe it gives food for thought that becomes a question :) Also it is important to try and address people that stand still in front of the booth. Not everyone dares to ask a question, but if you politely ask them if they know CentOS already you can start to interact. Surprisingly about half of the people that stand still in front of the booth are using it already. So apparently they are there for a chat. There is not a lot to demonstrate that is unique to CentOS so apart from demonstrating some technology that comes up in a question, the demo system is not really used to show something specific. -- -- dag wieers, dag at centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From dag at centos.org Mon Sep 1 12:03:45 2008 From: dag at centos.org (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:03:45 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Marcus Moeller wrote: > Is there already a Point of Contact: for T-Dose? Dag, I guess you > wanted to take part? Maybe we could setup a little wiki page for that. I will do the T-DOSE. I think the general rule is that someone with the native tongue does the organisation, because I have been bitten before by German mails that apparently were important ;-) Also, it is useful to have the same people involved with the same conference if possible. So Andreas takes care of FrOSCon, Ralph does LinuxTag, I do T-DOSE/FOSDEM/LinuxWorld NL/LinuxWorld BE. There are a lot of places we don't do conferences yet in Europe. And a lot more outside of Europe. > During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit > her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. That's fine. In itself it is ok if we have a lot of people, but the booth-size often is sized to only a limited number. Too many people at the booth makes the booth more chaotic and doesn't lead to a better service. So we should make sure that at any time the booth is too crowded (and the booth is not limited to only one person). Anyway, if I find the time this evening I will make a page about what we expect for a booth and what things we may be able to offer. -- -- dag wieers, dag at centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From mm at gcug.de Mon Sep 1 12:12:37 2008 From: mm at gcug.de (Marcus Moeller) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:12:37 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <14e58b610809010512v5829f6derfe7c18ea31d3be38@mail.gmail.com> Hi Dag. >> During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit >> her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. > > That's fine. In itself it is ok if we have a lot of people, but the > booth-size often is sized to only a limited number. Too many people at the > booth makes the booth more chaotic and doesn't lead to a better service. This is a question of organization. It depends on the booth size you promoted to the event operators. I thing a single table is good for 2-3 people. For 3-5 people we are in need of a second table (where we could also place a second PC with TFT for presentation of Compiz or something else) Best Regards Marcus From dag at centos.org Mon Sep 1 12:38:05 2008 From: dag at centos.org (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:38:05 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809010512v5829f6derfe7c18ea31d3be38@mail.gmail.com> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> <14e58b610809010512v5829f6derfe7c18ea31d3be38@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Marcus Moeller wrote: >>> During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit >>> her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. >> >> That's fine. In itself it is ok if we have a lot of people, but the >> booth-size often is sized to only a limited number. Too many people at the >> booth makes the booth more chaotic and doesn't lead to a better service. > > This is a question of organization. It depends on the booth size you > promoted to the event operators. I thing a single table is good for > 2-3 people. For 3-5 people we are in need of a second table (where we > could also place a second PC with TFT for presentation of Compiz or > something else) Tough luck asking for this at T-DOSE. It all depends on the conference you are at. I don't think we really need a bigger booth, we just need to manage it better (ie. people that are just sitting there and doing nothing are not at all useful). And I don't think we ever needed 5 people at a booth because of questions. For a conference like LinuxTag a bigger booth is possible, but for something like T-DOSE I wouldn't dare to ask for a bigger table because the event is of a different magnitude. -- -- dag wieers, dag at centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From mail-lists at karan.org Thu Sep 18 01:00:11 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:00:11 +0100 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> Dag Wieers wrote: > Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently is > taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a website > that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although it is not > on the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? As promised, I called Lance in the day today, twice. And got no response, have sent him an SMS to chase. As soon as there is feedback, I will post here to this list with details etc on that event. In the mean time, I will still count on being there myself. I have half a stack of CentOS flyers and my CentOS shirt :D does anyone have ideas on where one might get stickers / posters printed around here ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219 at icq From mm at gcug.de Thu Sep 18 06:46:26 2008 From: mm at gcug.de (Marcus Moeller) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:46:26 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> Message-ID: <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Dear Karanbir. >> Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently is >> taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a website >> that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although it is not on >> the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? > > As promised, I called Lance in the day today, twice. And got no response, > have sent him an SMS to chase. As soon as there is feedback, I will post > here to this list with details etc on that event. > > In the mean time, I will still count on being there myself. I have half a > stack of CentOS flyers and my CentOS shirt :D does anyone have ideas on > where one might get stickers / posters printed around here ? Send me your address and I will snail you a bunch of stickers. Best Regards Marcus From lance at centos.org Thu Sep 18 08:48:04 2008 From: lance at centos.org (Lance Davis) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:48:04 +0100 (BST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Sep 2008, Marcus Moeller wrote: > Dear Karanbir. > >>> Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently is >>> taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a website >>> that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although it is not on >>> the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? >> >> As promised, I called Lance in the day today, twice. And got no response, >> have sent him an SMS to chase. As soon as there is feedback, I will post >> here to this list with details etc on that event. Sorry - I was away from phone yesterday ... CentOS does have a booth at the expo - I will confirm details as soon as I have them. Cheers Lance -- uklinux.net - The ISP of choice for the discerning Linux user. From mail-lists at karan.org Thu Sep 18 11:53:37 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:53:37 +0100 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48D24141.3000004@karan.org> Lance Davis wrote: > CentOS does have a booth at the expo - I will confirm details as soon as > I have them. Sounds good. - KB From dag at wieers.com Thu Sep 18 16:55:42 2008 From: dag at wieers.com (Dag Wieers) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:55:42 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] T-DOSE 2008 CentOS booth Message-ID: Hi, I want to see how many people are interested to help with the CentOS booth at T-DOSE 2008. At the moment only Marcus has shown interest, but if we don't have sufficient people to man the booth I may have to cancel it. Let me know, -- -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From dag at wieers.com Sun Sep 21 22:03:58 2008 From: dag at wieers.com (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:03:58 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] Linuxworl Expo, Utrecht, NL Message-ID: Hi, I got an invitation from the Open Source pavilion to have a CentOS presentation at Linuxworld Expo, Utrecht, NL at 12 or 13 November 2008, like last year. Is anyone interested to do this presentation ? We have to send an abstract of about 100 words before Wednesday if someone wants to take it. -- -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Armijn Hemel To: Dag Wieers Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:46:22 +0200 Subject: CentOS lezing op Linuxworld? X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=2.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 hallo Dag, binnenkort (12 & 13 november) is er weer een LinuxWorld in Utrecht. Dit jaar is er, net alsvorig jaar, weer een Open Source paviljoen (op een wat betere locatie dan vorig jaar) waar we een aantal lezingen gaan houden. Deze keer zijn het er minder dan vorig jaar en duren ze ook langer (20 minuten). Denk je dat CentOS weer te porren is daarvoor? Zo ja, wie is het slachtoffer aan jullie kant en mag ik dan, voor woensdag, een abstract van 100 woorden? alvast bedankt, armijn -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- armijn at uulug.nl | http://www.uulug.nl/ | UULug: Utrecht Linux Users Group ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dag at wieers.com Sun Sep 21 22:14:33 2008 From: dag at wieers.com (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:14:33 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] CentOS Promo SIG Message-ID: Hi, After considerable thought I decided to step down from leading the CentOS Promo SIG to give someone else the opportunity to organize booths and presentations and travel around the world with a box of flyers. Thanks to everyone who helped the past 2 years. I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did :-) -- -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From mail-lists at karan.org Wed Sep 24 12:25:45 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:25:45 +0100 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48DA31C9.90205@karan.org> Marcus Moeller wrote: > Send me your address and I will snail you a bunch of stickers. The Stickers arrived today, thanks for those. - KB From mail-lists at karan.org Wed Sep 24 12:26:44 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:26:44 +0100 Subject: [CentOS-promo] CentOS Promo SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48DA3204.9060208@karan.org> Dag Wieers wrote: > Hi, > > After considerable thought I decided to step down from leading the > CentOS Promo SIG to give someone else the opportunity to organize booths > and presentations and travel around the world with a box of flyers. > > Thanks to everyone who helped the past 2 years. I hope you enjoyed it as > much as I did :-) I am sad you made this decision. But I want to really thank you for all your efforts ( and we all know there were plenty ) in promotion CentOS at events and speaking about CentOS everywhere. And still hoping you stay active in the promo squad! - KB From a.rogge at solvention.de Mon Sep 1 09:23:46 2008 From: a.rogge at solvention.de (Andreas Rogge) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:23:46 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> Message-ID: <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> I just had a look at the dates for LinuxWorld and T-Dose. LinuxWorld is scheduled on my birthday - obviously that's why it was cancelled last year ;) However, I won't be available this year. Another problem is T-Dose. It is scheduled for the same weekend as LinuxWorld and I feel we're not (yet) able to handle two events in parallel. Karanbir Singh schrieb: > Hi Dag, > > Dag Wieers wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently >> is taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a >> website that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although >> it is not on the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? >> >> http://www.linuxexpo.org.uk/centos > > I dont know much about it either, but I am guessing they are reusing > earlier info. There is a good chance that I will be around in London > those days - if so, can make it there. > -- Solvention Egermannstr. 6-8 53359 Rheinbach Tel: +49 2226 158179-0 Fax: +49 2226 158179-9 http://www.solvention.de mailto:info at solvention.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I've not been to anything since Fosdem'08 - so where should I look to see whats the 'usual stuff' that CentOS does at these events ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219 at icq From a.rogge at solvention.de Mon Sep 1 10:19:31 2008 From: a.rogge at solvention.de (Andreas Rogge) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:19:31 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> Message-ID: <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> >> Another problem is T-Dose. It is scheduled for the same weekend as >> LinuxWorld and I feel we're not (yet) able to handle two events in >> parallel. > > If we split into two groups, we should be ok to manage two events ? Yeah, that's what I thought, too. However, for anything that's not FOSDEM we're usually only a few people. You need at least two people to run a booth and while this is probably not an issue for LinuxWorld it might become one for T-Dose. Maybe we should call for participants right now so we can decide which events are possible. > > I've not been to anything since Fosdem'08 - so where should I look to > see whats the 'usual stuff' that CentOS does at these events ? > What we had at FrOSCon was: - a Presentation (Ralph or Dag should have these in different Languages) running at the booth - a Demo-System to try CentOS yourself - DVD on Demand (we had issues burning them) - Stickers as a giveaway However, I guess as I wasn't attending LinuxTag somebody (Ralph? Dag?) could probably add some more info. -- Solvention Egermannstr. 6-8 53359 Rheinbach Tel: +49 2226 158179-0 Fax: +49 2226 158179-9 http://www.solvention.de mailto:info at solvention.de -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3303 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From mm at gcug.de Mon Sep 1 10:38:12 2008 From: mm at gcug.de (Marcus Moeller) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:38:12 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> Message-ID: <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> Hi all. Is there already a Point of Contact: for T-Dose? Dag, I guess you wanted to take part? Maybe we could setup a little wiki page for that. During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. Best Regards Marcus From dag at centos.org Mon Sep 1 10:43:35 2008 From: dag at centos.org (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:43:35 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Andreas Rogge wrote: >> > Another problem is T-Dose. It is scheduled for the same weekend as >> > LinuxWorld and I feel we're not (yet) able to handle two events in >> > parallel. >> >> If we split into two groups, we should be ok to manage two events ? > Yeah, that's what I thought, too. However, for anything that's not FOSDEM > we're usually only a few people. > You need at least two people to run a booth and while this is probably not an > issue for LinuxWorld it might become one for T-Dose. > > Maybe we should call for participants right now so we can decide which events > are possible. > >> >> I've not been to anything since Fosdem'08 - so where should I look to >> see whats the 'usual stuff' that CentOS does at these events ? >> > What we had at FrOSCon was: > - a Presentation (Ralph or Dag should have these in different Languages) > running at the booth > - a Demo-System to try CentOS yourself > - DVD on Demand (we had issues burning them) > - Stickers as a giveaway > > However, I guess as I wasn't attending LinuxTag somebody (Ralph? Dag?) could > probably add some more info. I will create a page with the above and some rules for booths later today. Basicly what Andreas said, except that we also have some posters (printed by various people in various quality) and flyers from FOSDEM 2007. And of course our shirts/names to show we are a team. The presentation slides that we show at the booth is to make sure people have something to look at without requiring to ask. And maybe it gives food for thought that becomes a question :) Also it is important to try and address people that stand still in front of the booth. Not everyone dares to ask a question, but if you politely ask them if they know CentOS already you can start to interact. Surprisingly about half of the people that stand still in front of the booth are using it already. So apparently they are there for a chat. There is not a lot to demonstrate that is unique to CentOS so apart from demonstrating some technology that comes up in a question, the demo system is not really used to show something specific. -- -- dag wieers, dag at centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From dag at centos.org Mon Sep 1 12:03:45 2008 From: dag at centos.org (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:03:45 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Marcus Moeller wrote: > Is there already a Point of Contact: for T-Dose? Dag, I guess you > wanted to take part? Maybe we could setup a little wiki page for that. I will do the T-DOSE. I think the general rule is that someone with the native tongue does the organisation, because I have been bitten before by German mails that apparently were important ;-) Also, it is useful to have the same people involved with the same conference if possible. So Andreas takes care of FrOSCon, Ralph does LinuxTag, I do T-DOSE/FOSDEM/LinuxWorld NL/LinuxWorld BE. There are a lot of places we don't do conferences yet in Europe. And a lot more outside of Europe. > During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit > her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. That's fine. In itself it is ok if we have a lot of people, but the booth-size often is sized to only a limited number. Too many people at the booth makes the booth more chaotic and doesn't lead to a better service. So we should make sure that at any time the booth is too crowded (and the booth is not limited to only one person). Anyway, if I find the time this evening I will make a page about what we expect for a booth and what things we may be able to offer. -- -- dag wieers, dag at centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From mm at gcug.de Mon Sep 1 12:12:37 2008 From: mm at gcug.de (Marcus Moeller) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:12:37 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <14e58b610809010512v5829f6derfe7c18ea31d3be38@mail.gmail.com> Hi Dag. >> During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit >> her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. > > That's fine. In itself it is ok if we have a lot of people, but the > booth-size often is sized to only a limited number. Too many people at the > booth makes the booth more chaotic and doesn't lead to a better service. This is a question of organization. It depends on the booth size you promoted to the event operators. I thing a single table is good for 2-3 people. For 3-5 people we are in need of a second table (where we could also place a second PC with TFT for presentation of Compiz or something else) Best Regards Marcus From dag at centos.org Mon Sep 1 12:38:05 2008 From: dag at centos.org (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:38:05 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809010512v5829f6derfe7c18ea31d3be38@mail.gmail.com> References: <48B4716B.7040801@karan.org> <48BBB4A2.1020807@solvention.de> <48BBBC7D.1070207@karan.org> <48BBC1B3.9060700@solvention.de> <14e58b610809010338u3d28bd8mf6095e79c0e1dd73@mail.gmail.com> <14e58b610809010512v5829f6derfe7c18ea31d3be38@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Marcus Moeller wrote: >>> During that time my wife is in Goch (Germany) and I am going to visit >>> her. If everything goes right, I could take part at the booth, too. >> >> That's fine. In itself it is ok if we have a lot of people, but the >> booth-size often is sized to only a limited number. Too many people at the >> booth makes the booth more chaotic and doesn't lead to a better service. > > This is a question of organization. It depends on the booth size you > promoted to the event operators. I thing a single table is good for > 2-3 people. For 3-5 people we are in need of a second table (where we > could also place a second PC with TFT for presentation of Compiz or > something else) Tough luck asking for this at T-DOSE. It all depends on the conference you are at. I don't think we really need a bigger booth, we just need to manage it better (ie. people that are just sitting there and doing nothing are not at all useful). And I don't think we ever needed 5 people at a booth because of questions. For a conference like LinuxTag a bigger booth is possible, but for something like T-DOSE I wouldn't dare to ask for a bigger table because the event is of a different magnitude. -- -- dag wieers, dag at centos.org, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From mail-lists at karan.org Thu Sep 18 01:00:11 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:00:11 +0100 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> Dag Wieers wrote: > Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently is > taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a website > that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although it is not > on the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? As promised, I called Lance in the day today, twice. And got no response, have sent him an SMS to chase. As soon as there is feedback, I will post here to this list with details etc on that event. In the mean time, I will still count on being there myself. I have half a stack of CentOS flyers and my CentOS shirt :D does anyone have ideas on where one might get stickers / posters printed around here ? -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522219 at icq From mm at gcug.de Thu Sep 18 06:46:26 2008 From: mm at gcug.de (Marcus Moeller) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:46:26 +0200 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> Message-ID: <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Dear Karanbir. >> Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently is >> taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a website >> that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although it is not on >> the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? > > As promised, I called Lance in the day today, twice. And got no response, > have sent him an SMS to chase. As soon as there is feedback, I will post > here to this list with details etc on that event. > > In the mean time, I will still count on being there myself. I have half a > stack of CentOS flyers and my CentOS shirt :D does anyone have ideas on > where one might get stickers / posters printed around here ? Send me your address and I will snail you a bunch of stickers. Best Regards Marcus From lance at centos.org Thu Sep 18 08:48:04 2008 From: lance at centos.org (Lance Davis) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:48:04 +0100 (BST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 18 Sep 2008, Marcus Moeller wrote: > Dear Karanbir. > >>> Someone made me aware of the LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 which apparently is >>> taking place this year (unlike last year). I noticed there was a website >>> that does say that CentOS has a booth and is present, although it is not on >>> the wiki, nor is there any information about it ? >> >> As promised, I called Lance in the day today, twice. And got no response, >> have sent him an SMS to chase. As soon as there is feedback, I will post >> here to this list with details etc on that event. Sorry - I was away from phone yesterday ... CentOS does have a booth at the expo - I will confirm details as soon as I have them. Cheers Lance -- uklinux.net - The ISP of choice for the discerning Linux user. From mail-lists at karan.org Thu Sep 18 11:53:37 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:53:37 +0100 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48D24141.3000004@karan.org> Lance Davis wrote: > CentOS does have a booth at the expo - I will confirm details as soon as > I have them. Sounds good. - KB From dag at wieers.com Thu Sep 18 16:55:42 2008 From: dag at wieers.com (Dag Wieers) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:55:42 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] T-DOSE 2008 CentOS booth Message-ID: Hi, I want to see how many people are interested to help with the CentOS booth at T-DOSE 2008. At the moment only Marcus has shown interest, but if we don't have sufficient people to man the booth I may have to cancel it. Let me know, -- -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From dag at wieers.com Sun Sep 21 22:03:58 2008 From: dag at wieers.com (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:03:58 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] Linuxworl Expo, Utrecht, NL Message-ID: Hi, I got an invitation from the Open Source pavilion to have a CentOS presentation at Linuxworld Expo, Utrecht, NL at 12 or 13 November 2008, like last year. Is anyone interested to do this presentation ? We have to send an abstract of about 100 words before Wednesday if someone wants to take it. -- -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Armijn Hemel To: Dag Wieers Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:46:22 +0200 Subject: CentOS lezing op Linuxworld? X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=2.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS autolearn=failed version=3.2.5 hallo Dag, binnenkort (12 & 13 november) is er weer een LinuxWorld in Utrecht. Dit jaar is er, net alsvorig jaar, weer een Open Source paviljoen (op een wat betere locatie dan vorig jaar) waar we een aantal lezingen gaan houden. Deze keer zijn het er minder dan vorig jaar en duren ze ook langer (20 minuten). Denk je dat CentOS weer te porren is daarvoor? Zo ja, wie is het slachtoffer aan jullie kant en mag ik dan, voor woensdag, een abstract van 100 woorden? alvast bedankt, armijn -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- armijn at uulug.nl | http://www.uulug.nl/ | UULug: Utrecht Linux Users Group ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dag at wieers.com Sun Sep 21 22:14:33 2008 From: dag at wieers.com (Dag Wieers) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:14:33 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [CentOS-promo] CentOS Promo SIG Message-ID: Hi, After considerable thought I decided to step down from leading the CentOS Promo SIG to give someone else the opportunity to organize booths and presentations and travel around the world with a box of flyers. Thanks to everyone who helped the past 2 years. I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did :-) -- -- dag wieers, dag at wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] From mail-lists at karan.org Wed Sep 24 12:25:45 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:25:45 +0100 Subject: [CentOS-promo] LinuxWorld Expo UK 2008 In-Reply-To: <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <48D1A81B.806@karan.org> <14e58b610809172346y148633c3i39e540e7feea2ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48DA31C9.90205@karan.org> Marcus Moeller wrote: > Send me your address and I will snail you a bunch of stickers. The Stickers arrived today, thanks for those. - KB From mail-lists at karan.org Wed Sep 24 12:26:44 2008 From: mail-lists at karan.org (Karanbir Singh) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:26:44 +0100 Subject: [CentOS-promo] CentOS Promo SIG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48DA3204.9060208@karan.org> Dag Wieers wrote: > Hi, > > After considerable thought I decided to step down from leading the > CentOS Promo SIG to give someone else the opportunity to organize booths > and presentations and travel around the world with a box of flyers. > > Thanks to everyone who helped the past 2 years. I hope you enjoyed it as > much as I did :-) I am sad you made this decision. But I want to really thank you for all your efforts ( and we all know there were plenty ) in promotion CentOS at events and speaking about CentOS everywhere. And still hoping you stay active in the promo squad! - KB