After installing from CD I ran up2date and it looks like I got everything updated. For some reason the up2date icon stays red and tells me that I have up2date-4.2-33-1.centos.3.1 installed but latest version is up2date-4.5.1.centos.3.1 which is the old version of up2date. All the files it wants me to up2date to are the old files. Is this normal for Centos and will it correct itself when new updates come out? thanks all. _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com