The GNU Project (Was: [CentOS] Re: Reboots -- LSB 2.1 Core Generic Section 8.5)

Rodrigo Barbosa rodrigob at suespammers.org
Fri Jun 3 07:13:06 UTC 2005


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I'm taking this off-list, and answering in private.

Sorry for everyone about this whole mess.

On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 02:06:41AM -0500, Bryan J. Smith wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 03:47 -0300, Rodrigo Barbosa wrote:
> > Just commenting the main points, since this is becoming way off-topic.
> 
> You're telling me?  I tried to make a specific point in a specific
> context.  And you're going all over the place.
> 
> > Executive summary: You seem to have a misunderstandment of what the
> > GNU Project is.
> 
> Sigh.  Man, you're going way outside the context I was even working in.
> 
> > No, it is NOT a technical fact. It was designed to be a pet project,
> > and not to be a GNU system.
> > From Linus' mouth: " I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, 
> > won't be big and professional like gnu)"
> > He is clearly stating it is not GNU, and not going to be GNU. Just a hobby.
> >  ...
> > If you want technical accuracy, I would like to point you to Linus
> > original post about Linux.
> > http://www.msfn.org/board/lofiversion/index.php/t40457.html
> 
> Are you for real?  Really?  I think you're bouncing around so many
> concepts, I can't even get you to stop for a moment to focus on one.
> 
> > I think you are mistaken about what GNU is. GNU is a Free Software Foundation
> > project to create a free Unix-like system. That becomes clear from what
> > you have written beyond this point.
> 
> Again, are you for real?  Or am I just imagining this?
> 
> > Unless the project is lead, coordinated or endorsed by FSF, it is NOT
> > a GNU project. The copyright of any GNU project is given to the FSF.
> > Yes, it is correct to call Linux a "GNU Operating System Variant", but
> > Linux is definitively NOT a GNU project.
> 
> Besides the fact that you are substituting in context left and right.
> 
> > Actually, to be "technicaly accurate", there is no such thing as
> > a "GNU System", not even from GNU/FSF.
> 
> Um, Stallman, GCC, GLibC and other developers I know use the exact
> phrase "a GNU System" regularly.  I'm talking in the context of
> interoperability, which was my original focus.
> 
> > I recomend you to carefuly read about the Free Software Foundation,
> > the GNU Project, and the history of Linux. Also, please read and
> > text of the LGPL (not GPL).
> 
> This is just beyond insulting.  This is basically what I do at
> Fortune 100 companies as an architect, especially when it comes to legal
> considerations, history, etc...
> 
> Apparently one second you think something is just a kernel, then a
> project, then an OS, etc...  From an application programmer interface
> (API) standpoint, there are GNU systems, GNU compatible systems and non-
> GNU compatible systems.
> 
> That's all I was talking about.  It's very important to understand this
> from an API/developer/integrator standpoint.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bryan J. Smith                                     b.j.smith at ieee.org 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> It is mathematically impossible for someone who makes more than you
> to be anything but richer than you.  Any tax rate that penalizes them
> will also penalize you similarly (to those below you, and then below
> them).  Linear algebra, let alone differential calculus or even ele-
> mentary concepts of limits, is mutually exclusive with US journalism.
> So forget even attempting to explain how tax cuts work.  ;->
> 
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Rodrigo Barbosa <rodrigob at suespammers.org>
"Quid quid Latine dictum sit, altum viditur"
"Be excellent to each other ..." - Bill & Ted (Wyld Stallyns)

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