[Centos] Restart centos from Commandline
Mark Jarvis
mark.jarvis at pvmail.maricopa.edu
Wed Mar 30 17:21:18 UTC 2005
FWIW, I've noticed that newbies (& everyone else) with questions get
much better responses if the question is phrased "Where can I find info
on . . . or "where can I find details on how to do . . .", then if they
ask "How do I do . . .". Not only do you not start a semi-polite
not-quite-flame-war, but you learn other things from the reading.
Just my $0.02.
-mj-
Nathan Oyler wrote:
> It isn't that you are wrong, as much as there is a perfectly valid
> reason not to answer those questions.
>
> Because then people will ask them. And return and ask another.
>
> They are all simple except that you become a resource, and that grows.
> Support Irc channels are the easiest to see this in.
>
> It isn't that it's difficult to answer these questions, it just gives no
> incentive for people to try and learn the answer themselves, which
> stunts their growth and makes them lean more on assistance.
>
> It's easier on us all to force people to try and figure out the easy
> answers, because if you can't figure out with google how to restart
> linux from the command line, how will you be able to resolve 22
> dependencies with 10 perl modules that require you to debug on 3 of them
> error messages that.. you get the point.
>
> 2 cents.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: centos-bounces at centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces at centos.org] On
>>Behalf Of Peter Farrow
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:56 AM
>>To: CentOS mailing list
>>Subject: Re: [Centos] Restart centos from Commandline
>>
>>I agree,
>>
>>If a question really is very simple to answer, why not just give the
>>answer, after all asking questions is how we all learn....
>>
>>Self importance really is ultimatelty self-defeating, no one knows
>>everything....and one day we all have to ask.
>>
>>I've been in the computing game far too long to to claim to know
>>definite answers to everything, the more you learn the more
>>
>>you realise you don't know!
>>
>>;-)
>>
>>P.
>>
>>
>>
>>Joao Medeiros wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Same happened to me when I joined the Fedora dlist and asked some
>>>newbie question which I'm too ashamed to remember now :-)
>>>
>>>Point is, the time it takes to reply with a "you're wasting my time"
>>>could actually be used to give some help. If peeps are too busy why
>>>bothering replying with nasty comments in the first place?!
>>>
>>>Just my 2 cents...
>>>
>>>
>>>On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:37:08 -0700, Collins Richey
>
> <crichey at gmail.com>
>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>Every list goes through this sort of thrashing:
>>>>
>>>>1. There are some users who are too self-important to remember back
>>>>when they were once n00bs. From what I've heard, these are the bulk
>>>>of users on the Debian lists <grin>.
>>>>
>>>>2. There are others who can provide the simple answer AND a gentle
>>>>reminder where the n00b might find the answer him/herself. What's
>
> the
>
>>>>old saying: "You ctch more flies with honey than with vinegar."
>>>>
>>>>3. Then there is the group (actually, subcategory of 1) who never
>
> has
>
>>>>any time and can't be bothered to read anything other than
>>>>super-intellectual stuff and who fills the replies with "your're
>>>>wasting our time."
>>>>
>>>>The most successful lists have a lot of users in category 2.
>>>>
>>>>Enjoy,
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Collins
>>>> When I saw the Iraqi people voting three weeks ago, 8 million
>
> of
>
>>them,
>>
>>>> it was the start of a new Arab world.... The Berlin Wall has
>>
>>fallen.
>>
>>>> - Lebanese Druze leader Walid Jumblatt
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