[CentOS] [OT][Practices] The Case for RBAC/MAC

[Bryan J. Smith]

On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 06:55 -0800, Brian T. Brunner wrote:
> This concurs with my asserted point: e-mail is a personal skill.

If I was being paid to provide help here, I would NOT be providing it in
e-mail.

> Slightly beyond your grasp?  Who, pray tell, is my attacker?

Dude, I have _never_ asked you to explain yourself on RBAC/MAC.  That
was _other_ people.  Please do _not_ attribute what _they_ said to me.

I just said that I _disagree_ with your view that RBAC/MAC makes no
sense in some environments you work in.  That's all.  Why you have to
assert for me, for others, etc... in an "absolutist" view has been
_my_problem_ with your statements.

What you do for _your_ networks is what _you_ do.  Please, please re-
read what *I* said and what *OTHERS* said and do not confuse them.  I am
_not_ "attacking you."

> YAYYY!

Huh?  So you say that functionality is all that matters, and you don't
care if there is any compromise of the system as long as it works?
That's basically how I put it, and if you concur, that's fine by me.

> I've passed a cognitive coherence test from somebody
> whose methods of presentation in e-mail are sufficiently poor 
> that I SIMPLY DON'T CARE whether I pass his tests.

As I said, I am not here to judge what you do.  But I did not like your
belief that some of us who configure RBAC/MAC do it for no reason.

> Once again, I depart from this conversation.

Obviously because you can't differentiate between what *I* say and what
*OTHERS* say.

That too is a cognitive coherence test that you seem to have
_failed_repeatedly_ in your responses in this thread.  I should know, I
do it to at times, but at least I admit it.

I guess that's why some people just piggyback everything that is said to
me, _regardless_ if I said it or not -- because I'll admit to some
things.  So they hope other people have poor comprehension skills.

The old "moderation" thread comes to mind.  But remember, not everyone
is dumb here.  I would argue a great majority have better comprehension
skills than you or I.