[CentOS] newbie kernel question

[William L. Maltby]

On Sun, 2006-04-02 at 01:26 +0100, Ian mu wrote:
> Fair points, but there's a difference though (imo) between the angle
> some come accross from. I.e if I say I want to do X and it needs me to
> compile a kernel, and someone knows that there's a resolution without,
> then great, this is where the information becomes invaluable. Igorance
> is actually fine a lot of the time (as absurd as that sounds), most of
> us at some time or another have assumed one solution for someone else
> to come up with a better one. There's no shame in not knowing better,
> this is how we learn. This is 95% of our customers these days in fact
> I find. 
>  
> However I wouldn't be condenscending like this list can be at times
> (don't mean the recent replies or even specifically this thread,

I know what you mean there. I would only say that "condescension" seems
to be not limited to this list, but seems to reside in various
individuals on many lists. And, IMO, is most likely in those who are
very experienced, both in project members sometimes and non-members
sometimes.

Please keep that in mind. Also, keep in mind that the quality of
condescension can be heavily influenced by the listener. To paraphrase
an old adage "Condescension is in the ear of the hearer"...
sometimes! ;-)

>  its probably the tail of other responses), there's no harm in saying,
> "well ideally you could do X, but if thats not suitable, here's the
> link to do Y which you want". Some people just want an answer they
> don't understand, but thats very rare I find, most people want a
> solution they understand even if its not their own solution. Thats
> simply good education.

As mentioned, the nature of many list participants precludes the
shortest possible answer. I think most tend to want to be helpful, in
terms of sharing information, and that leads to the least direct answer
often.

>  
> In reality though, there's rarely been an "ideal" operating that
> hasn't needed "something" doing which isn't necessarily following the
> core ideals. What people have said about RH/Centos does make perfect
> sense, and people do know that (mainly anyway). Unless there's an o.s
> that "perfectly" matches the applications that run on it, its quite
> likely its going to happen at some point that you need to go out of
> bounds. 

Agreed. And I've seen this list help many (recent php threads, IIRC, is
a good example?).

> <snip my previous posting from below>

Anyway, let's hope that all can accomplish what they need and give
others the latitude to offer opinions/education/etc. in a way that makes
the project pleasant for the majority.


Bill
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