[CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...

Jason Pyeron jpyeron at pdinc.us
Fri Apr 3 23:14:04 UTC 2009


 

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> From: centos-bounces at centos.org 
> [mailto:centos-bounces at centos.org] On Behalf Of Luke S Crawford
> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 17:33
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> Subject: Re: [CentOS] [OT] Godaddy hell...
> 
> "Jason Pyeron" <jpyeron at pdinc.us> writes:
> 
> 
> > > Everyone's pushing you to one of the VPS providers because that's 
> > > what all the cool kids are doing now that VM technology is 
> > > commoditized.
> > > 
> > 
> > I do not have an opinion on this.
> 
> I think people are pushing the VPS service because people who 
> are interested in administering the OS are likely to want the 
> provider to handle the hardware and network, but let them 
> handle the Linux stuff.  this is where the responsibility is 
> split on a VPS.
> 
> And it is a very clean and clear line, which I like.  I am 
> responsible for the [virtual] hardware and network, you are 
> responsible for the Linux bits.
> Very clear.  when you are down, you know who is responsible.  
> 
> (I am a vps provider, but I am not what you want.  I do have 
> a SLA on the hardware/network, but I don't even have a login account
> on your VPS.   I like it.  I get to play with the bits I like. )  
> 
> another note:  I would focus less on SLA and more on how 
> often they are down (and how open they are about downtime.  
> Hiding downtime is a very bad sign.)  Does a free month 
> really make up for any significant amount of 
> downtime?   

Good review criteria, I like it. There is not an service credit on the planet
that would make things right, but there is insurance and the insurance rates
factor in what does the provider promise / provide / history....

> 
> If you want that line to be between your code and whatever 
> language/framework you wrote your app in, you need to get 
> specialized hosting for that language/app.  
> 
> You are probably going to pay more for this than for more 
> 'generic' hosting or even than for VPS hosting, but if you 
> aren't good at or don't like being a SysAdmin, well, it's 
> probably worth it.  
> 

As it is not justifiable to have a dedicated sysadmin for one box, when you can
pay for a shared sysadmin.

For what my client would need, I coud admin the box very well, but I would have
to bill him for it.

> Personally, I think you should ask on a mailing list for 
> whatever your webapp is written in.  I know there are several 
> hosting companies who specialize in doing what you want for 
> ruby on rails, and thousands who
> specialize in doing this for PHP.    

As such, "the web designer" has chimed in as said, you would not have these
problems if you let me put this in my black box. We shall see what debacles come
up next.

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