[CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu
Christopher Chan
christopher.chan at bradbury.edu.hk
Sat Nov 12 14:08:28 UTC 2011
On Saturday, November 12, 2011 03:59 PM, Nataraj wrote:
> I believe the standard desktop uses Ubuntu's own installer. The Ubuntu
> server and the 'alternative' distribution use the debian installer. I
> fought with it at first, but it is much more flexible than the redhat
> installer. You can build arbitrary LVM/raid configurations with it and
> you can also go into the shell from the installer and customize things
> that you can't with the redhat installer.
Last time I tried, you could not do lvm on raid and it was acknowledged
as such on the ubuntu-installer/ubuntu-devel-discuss list. Arbitrary
lvm/raid and lvm on raid has been possible on anaconda for quite a while.
>> 3- I don't know about having a server being forced to connect to the
>> internet before you can even begin to secure
>> it up. But the only way to really install it is to do that. Wait til you
>> see the insecure firewall setup if gave me too..
> I've not experienced any distribution to provide a great default
> firewall setup. What I do notice about Ubuntu server is there are very
> few services running in the default install, so if you probe a newly
> installed machine, it's not very vulnerable. I usually run new installs
> behind my Internet firewall anyway. I like doing a basic install and
> then adding the services that I want to enable, rather then a server
> install that comes up with dozens of services that you may not need and
> you have to turn them all off to secure the machine.
Nobody said anything about any distribution providing a 'great' default
setup. Someone said something about dozens of firewall management tools
but in reality, they were all solutions that drive you insane.
Redhat/Centos = service iptables save. End of story.
>> 4- I picked the virtual host package, as the machine will hold guest
>> OS's (presumably ubuntu).
> I do like CentOS/Redhat 6 better as a virtualization server. Thing to
> realize here is that Redhat is leading the development effort for KVM,
> libvirt etc, so Ubuntu's code lags behind redhat. For the current
> stable Ubuntu 10.04 LTS release Ubuntu lags behind redhat 6 and since
> 10.04 LTS is a stable release it doesn't just get arbitrary updates
> unless they are security fixes.
Sometimes stuff don't get updates at all. Even when working patches have
been provided. Maybe only some Canonical maintained packages get backports.
>
> One thing I like about Ubuntu/debian is the /etc/network/interfaces file
> over /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts /etc/sysconfig/network.
I must say that that is one thing among others nice in Debian. Just like
runparts is from Debian.
> Just another flavor of linux. There are various packages that can be
> installed to do this for you. ufw is one of them. I prefer to use my
> own scripts though.
Using your own scripts is the only sane way to do things...ufw,
fwbuilder, even shorewall are just either inadequate, inflexible or way
too complicated to trace/optimize things.
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