> To:
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> From:
rgm@htt-consult.com
> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 18:41:46 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Arm-dev] List of 64-bit hardware for
testing?
>
>
>
> On 12/23/2015 06:28 PM, Jim Perrin wrote:
> >
> > On 12/23/2015 05:01 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> >> I've been lurking for a while hoping to see
someone call out some
> >> specs, but I don't recall seeing them. My
apologies in advance of this
> >> is a redundant question.
> >>
> >> I'm interested in inexpensive hardware to test
for arm64/aarch64, but
> >> I'm having trouble finding them.
> > Everyone is. It's not as widely available as I'd
like yet.
> >
> >> For example, [1] lists a X-C1 Basic dev board,
but its $1495 USD [2]
> >> (add $1000 USD for the Plus kit). Another
example is the AMD Opteron
> >> A1100 dev kit at $3000 USD [6]. As another
example, I purchased both
> >> an HTC 510 Desire and a Samsung Galaxy
Core-Prime because both were
> >> supposed to be 64-bit ARMv8 [3,4]. But after the
press release and
> >> conversion to the US market, they arrived as
32-bit ARMv7.
> >>
> >> First question... Does Cent maintain a list of
inexpensive hardware
> >> for testing? If so, would someone point me to
it? I understand the
> >> list is subjective and it will become stale over
time. That's a
> >> different problem (and a problem I wish I had).
> >
> > Not really. As the arm64 maintainer I can share the
list of what I have
> > for testing, and what I would recommend for cheap.
> >
> >
> > What we build/test against currently:
> >
> > 1. APM mustang board, which you've already listed
above.
> > 2. AMD Seattle board, which you've also listed
above.
> > 3. Cavium ThunderX.
> >
> > These are mostly server platforms and aren't cheap
for the home user.
> >
> > What I'd recommend:
> >
> > Keep an eye on 96boards.com. They have a Hikey, and
will soon have a
> > Huskey board which should work ootb. These are both
far less expensive.
> >
> > Lenovator offers a Hikey with more ram and a larger
emmc. It's roughly
> > $100 (US).
>
> Interesting. Can you provide a URL for this board and
such. A
> Cubietruck is ~$90. So this is a very interesting data
point.
>
> >
> > Gigabyte's MP30-AR0 board (based on APM's mustang)
should work with
> > CentOS OOTB as well, and will hopefully be
reasonably priced.
> >
> > Soon I'll have a pine64 board as well. I'm hoping to
be able to add that
> > to the list of things we support.
> >
> >> Second question... Or, is it possible to get SSH
access to one of the
> >> machines provided by Applied Micro or AMD [1,6]?
GNU has a compile
> >> farm (
http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/CompileFarm) I can
test with, and I'm
> >> wondering if Cent does the same.
> >
> > Sadly, no. We don't have enough to offer up ssh
access. We will be
> > adding an aarch64/arm64 box to the community build
service though, so
> > you would be able to build against the platform, but
no direct ssh access.
> >
> >
> >> Last question... Has anyone tried using the
Android TV boxes [5] for
> >> testing? They appear to be inexpensive (around
$100 USD) and some
> >> appear to be ARMv8 with multiple 64-bit cores
(Cortex-A53 and
> >> Cortex-A57).
> > I haven't, but keep in mind not all ARM is created
equal. We've built
> > things up to target the server standards, SBBR and
SBSA. The TL;DR there
> > for most folks is "boots via UEFI". Lots of the
lower end boxen like the
> > Android TV are using uboot with custom kernel
support, etc. This means
> > that the userspace should work, but actually booting
the box would be
> > questionable, depending on if the vendor's done
something funky with the
> > kernel, uboot, etc.
> >
> >> (Its definitely like Perrin said, "Hardware
really is the best sort of
> >> gift..." [6]).
> > It absolutely is, and I'm hoping it becomes more
generally available
> > early in 2016. I'd love to have a larger community
who can engage and
> > participate.
> >
> >
>
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