On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 2:15 PM Shaun McCance <shaunm@redhat.com> wrote:

This is an announcement about the EOL of CentOS Linux 7, which has seen
its complete 10-year expected lifecycle. Grievances about the short
lifespan of CentOS Linux 8 are off-topic, and your hostile language
towards Fabian (one of "the rest of the CentOS team" you thank) is
completely inappropriate. You can express your disapproval of technical
decisions without attacking people personally.

Hi Shaun:

I read Tracy's note several times - and I see no personal attack against Fabian. Am I missing something?

From what I see, Tracey shared a sentiment that is widely held, which is contextually in response to the messaging that CentOS 7 is now EOL. This is not an attack on Fabian. Fabian is only the messenger, and the response is to the message.

CentOS 7 is the last CentOS released that fulfilled its commitment. CentOS 8 did not fulfill its commitment.

Perhaps the exact choice of language may not be welcome, but it is important to measure your response against the words actually expressed.

Thanks,

On Sun, 2024-06-16 at 20:40 -0700, Tracy Reed wrote:
> A sad day. CentOS was a great distribution that I used for many
> years. A
> real shame that RedHat sold out and IBM came along to totally screw
> the
> CentOS community in the @$$. My thanks to Johnny Hughes and all of
> the
> rest of the CentOS team for years of a great distribution. I no
> longer
> have any CentOS systems. It's Debian for me from now on. I'm pretty
> sure
> they won't betray their community.
>
> Regards,
> Tracy Reed
>
> On 6/15/24 23:49, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > As discussed multiple times on various lists, CentOS Linux 7 will
> > go
> > EOL in two weeks (end of June) and so that means that various
> > services
> > running on CentOS 7 will disappear too .
> > Apart from internal build infra for centos 7 itself (non public)
> > that
> > will be decommissioned, here are some services that will disappear:
> >
> > # mirrorlist.centos.org
> > As the whole backend/frontend infra is running on centos 7 , and
> > that
> > everything Stream related (and now SIGs) was migrated to use
> > mirrormanager (hosted by Fedora infra team), there was no reason to
> > migrate/maintain it as all content will be EOL.
> >
> > # forums.centos.org
> > Per discussion with the forums moderators, it will be powered off
> > completely (not migrated)
> >
> > # torrent.centos.org
> > In the past we used to provide .torrent for various centos linux
> > releases, but it stopped with CentOS Stream. As the trackers (ipv4
> > and
> > ipv6) are on centos 7, they'll disappear also end of this month

Mark Mielke <mark.mielke@gmail.com>