My last post on this to the list because it isn't on-topic anymore and KB doesn't need to drop the hammer on me. My view is that elegant designs in computers all look different to each person due to the fact that their life experience, brain mapping, and mood of the day makes it so. And because of that, I will see constant churn and redesign no matter how stupid it is. I can either learn to adapt and keep going, or I can get out of computers and go into something more glacial paced like farming (which I have been very tempted to do every 2-3 emails from Lennart P.). That is it and I am done here unless there is something CentOS related.