On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:28 AM Phelps, Matthew <mphelps@cfa.harvard.edu> wrote:


On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 9:06 AM Rich Bowen <rbowen@redhat.com> wrote:
The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next
year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat
Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which tracks just ahead of a
current RHEL release. CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end
at the end of 2021. CentOS Stream continues after that date, serving as
the upstream (development) branch of Red Hat Enterprise Linux.

Meanwhile, we understand many of you are deeply invested in CentOS Linux
7, and we’ll continue to produce that version through the remainder of
the RHEL 7 life cycle.
https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata/#Life_Cycle_Dates

CentOS Stream will also be the centerpiece of a major shift in
collaboration among the CentOS Special Interest Groups (SIGs). This
ensures SIGs are developing and testing against what becomes the next
version of RHEL. This also provides SIGs a clear single goal, rather
than having to build and test for two releases. It gives the CentOS
contributor community a great deal of influence in the future of RHEL.
And it removes confusion around what “CentOS” means in the Linux
distribution ecosystem.

When CentOS Linux 8 (the rebuild of RHEL8) ends, your best option will
be to migrate to CentOS Stream 8, which is a small delta from CentOS
Linux 8, and has regular updates like traditional CentOS Linux releases.
If you are using CentOS Linux 8 in a production environment, and are
concerned that CentOS Stream will not meet your needs, we encourage you
to contact Red Hat about options.

We have an FAQ - https://centos.org/distro-faq/ - to help with your
information and planning needs, as you figure out how this shift of
project focus might affect you.

[See also: Red Hat's perspective on this.
https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/centos-stream-building-innovative-future-enterprise-linux]

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You have published a CentOS Lifecycle that states the EOL for CentOS 8 is May 2029. (c.f. https://endoflife.software/operating-systems/linux/centos). CentOS Stream *is not* CentOS 8.

This announcement is a breach of that trust with your community, and could be construed as a breach of contract with your users.

Save this change for CentOS 9.


This statement from that page is also now a lie:


The CentOS Linux distribution is a stable, predictable, manageable and reproducible platform derived from the sources of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL). 


This statement is the reason we *all* chose CentOS. You will be betraying us in the worst possible way if this change is allowed to happen. 

This isn't just a "Knee jerk" reaction. CentOS is abandoning everything it stood for by even creating CentOS Stream. We *dont want it* !!

Getting rid of a strict re-compile of RHEL X.X is a complete reversal of the principles of CentOS and the community it serves. Again, WE DON'T WANT THIS!





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(Computation Facility, Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory)

Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian


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Information Technology Specialist, Systems Administrator

(Computation Facility, Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory)

Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian


60 Garden Street | MS 39 | Cambridge, MA 02138

email: mphelps@cfa.harvard.edu


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