Hi,
As I have seen there is only a subset of development libraries included on the upstream's el6 DVD.
While packaging my additional software with mock I needed to put some distro SRPMs into my local SRPMs directory to get the *-devel pkgs. (But it would make no sense when the distro packages are updated.)
Will be there all *-devel packages included in the CentOS-6 [base]/[update] repositories and will be there a *-debuginfo repo, too?
What about contributer repositories? My idea is to have 3 stages of user contrib repositories (two of them controlled by the CentOS dev team):
[contrib-unstable] where everyone may upload software packages via web (requiring only a simple registration), that are not well tested and not targeted to a production system.
[contrib-testing] packages that have been selected by the developer team that needs to be tested.
[contib] packages that are fully tested and confirmed to be stable and which does not have any side-effects to the CentOS base installation.
All these points would make C6 fantastic for everyone (for engineers, developers, administrators, end-users and even artists).
Cheers, Brian.
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Brian Schueler brian.schueler@gmx.de wrote:
Hi,
As I have seen there is only a subset of development libraries included on the upstream's el6 DVD.
While packaging my additional software with mock I needed to put some distro SRPMs into my local SRPMs directory to get the *-devel pkgs. (But it would make no sense when the distro packages are updated.)
Will be there all *-devel packages included in the CentOS-6 [base]/[update] repositories
Those -devel packages must be in the "Optional" channel (therefore not on the DVD).
https://access.redhat.com/knowledge/searchResults?col=redhat_kbase&topSe...
(the first hit)
I would think they will be in CentOS because the SRPMS are available.
Akemi
Hi Brian
On 12/21/2010 04:13 PM, Brian Schueler wrote:
As I have seen there is only a subset of development libraries included on the upstream's el6 DVD.
Everything that outputs from the srpms is on the CentOS Distro. In the past the addons/ repo was used to host packages that were output from srpms but not included in the binary distro from Red Hat. During C4/5 we sort of lost utility of that repo; but if needed it can be brought back. At this time, I dont think we will need it - as Akemi already clarified.
What about contributer repositories? My idea is to have 3 stages of user contrib repositories (two of them controlled by the CentOS dev team):
We've been through various iterations of talking about these contrib/ extras/ plus/ repo population in the past. Also keep in mind that there are quite a few other repo's that do some level of this stuff already and are well established.
[contrib-unstable] where everyone may upload software packages via web (requiring only a simple registration), that are not well tested and not targeted to a production system.
Why would we want to host content like that in and around CentOS ? I think a small buildsystem with a public buildqueue would be all thats needed for pkgs of this nature, and that can be setup. I dont think CentOS should get involved in pushing content that is clearly marked as 'of dubious quality'.
[contrib-testing] packages that have been selected by the developer team that needs to be tested.
This will be hard to make work, specially for packages not submitted by people who are already on the 'developer' list since they wont want to take on an ongoing responsibility for content from a distant entity ( could be a person on his/her own or a business or a project ).
[contib] packages that are fully tested and confirmed to be stable and which does not have any side-effects to the CentOS base installation.
This is nice to have :) We only need to consider the 'no side effects to base' with a pinch of salt ( ~ potential to feed the CentOSPlus repo ).
All these points would make C6 fantastic for everyone (for engineers, developers, administrators, end-users and even artists).
Personally, I've always been keen on having an effort that can put together apps and content for specific groups of people, specially when it creates options and alternatives. But the issue that it all comes down to is : how do you get a reasonably high level of packaging and how do you do that with a sustainable model. One thing that I feel is a good-to-have, is to restrict package submittions to people who have upstream commit rights and then have a centos-packager-team audit and work with the .spec files. That would solve quite a few of the corner issues and would go a long way in getting some level of quality and consistency across the board. Thoughts ?
- KB