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IDLE still broken
by Rick Graves 28 Nov '04

28 Nov '04

Hey, Sure enough, IDLE 1.0.3 came with Python 2.3, but the update did not fix my problem. I found a entry in RedHat's bugzilla, "Inconsistent input from numeric pad when numlock off", bug 136600. I put one in on SourceForge (where Python bugs are tracked) under IDLE, "input from numeric pad always dropped when numlock off", # 1074333. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=136600 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1074333&group_id=… I am still coding Python on my Windows box. Rick

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Re: python dependency solution
by Rick Graves 27 Nov '04

27 Nov '04

Hey, It seems to be OK just to install python 2.3 via rpm. (So my idea was not so "off the wall" after all.) Since Seth's reply here indicated that my idea was an option, I decided to try it first on a test system. When I got to the rpm download page at www.python.org, I found an FAQ exactly on point: begin quote Q) Is it safe to install these RPMs on a Red Hat system? Will they over-write the system python and cause problems with other Red Hat applications that expect a different version of Python? A) The RPMs that start with "python2.3" are built to not interfere with the system Python. They install as "/usr/bin/python2.3" and will not conflict with the system Python unless you are running on a system that ships the a version of Python which has the same major/minor number. To invoke the interpreter with these packages, you will explicitly have to run "python2.3". Note that all Python RPMs provided by Python.org and Red Hat provide a "/usr/bin/python2.3" (or similar, with major/minor number), even if they also provide "/usr/bin/python". So, yes, it should be safe. end quote http://www.python.org/2.3.4/rpms.html This must have come up before, and Guido has already worked out the details. Rick

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package dependency problem
by Rick Graves 26 Nov '04

26 Nov '04

Post Turkey Day (#1 Shopping Day) Greetings! I am running CentOS-3 as a desktop distribution. Everything is fine except for Idle, the integrated development environment that comes with Python. Python is version 2.2, but Idle is version 0.8. The Idle 0.8 keyboard is driving me nuts. On my Windows box, I downloaded from www.python.org and installed Python, and got Python 2.3 and Idle 1.0.8, which is MUCH BETTER -- so much better, even for code intended to be run only in Linux, I would much rather code Python in Windows! Fedora comes with Python 2.3. I have my own CentOS mirror, so I added a fedora mirror on the side, and I used rsync to grab only the python files from fedora mirrors. I ran yum check-update. As a result, yum downloaded all the headers and reported no problems. But when I ran yum update, yum balked, giving a list of packages that are dependent on python2.2, "that is not available". The packages listed are: authconfig-gtk comps-extras firstboot redhat-config-date redhat-config-keyboard redhat-config-kickstartrhpl redhat-config-language redhat-config-mouse redhat-config-nfs redhat-config-rootpassword redhat-config-samba redhat-config-securitylevel redhat-config-soundcardredhat-config-users redhat-config-xfree86 When I wrote to the yum mailing list, I put in: "Unless Python 2.3 breaks those packages (which I think is unlikely), I thought I should be able to upgrade Python to a newer version without this kind of objection." Seth wrote back that python 2.3 would break some of the packages, aparently because the packages have hardcoded paths, and the change of location from /usr/lib/python2.2 to /usr/lib/python2.3 would break some. One possible work around would be to grab the packages on the above list from fedora in addition to just the python packages, but I would consider that a last resort. One off the wall idea is to install python 2.3, but leave python 2.2 there for the packages with hardcoded paths. (I am not sure whether yum would cooperate on this plan.) Is there a cleaner solution to this problem? Thanks, Rick

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installing CentOS on the IBM BladeCenter
by Phillip_James＠gardencitygroup.com 25 Nov '04

25 Nov '04

Has any one install CentOS 3.3 or early on a IBM BladeCenter eServers (HS20) Phillip James System Administrator The Garden City Group, Inc. 105 Maxess Road Melville, NY 11747-3836 Phone: (631) 470-5044 Fax: (631) 940-6561 E-mail: Phillip.James(a)GardenCityGroup.com ==================================================== This communication (including any attachments) is intended for the use of the intended recipient(s) only and may contain information that is confidential, privileged or legally protected. Any unauthorized use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by return e-mail message and delete all copies of the original communication. Thank you for your cooperation.

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Wiki Choices
by Michael Jennings 25 Nov '04

25 Nov '04

I have selected 4 software packages for us to evaluate in order to decide on the best possible engine for the much-requested cAos Community Wiki. All 4 samples are now up and running for you to try out, play around with, and evalute. The URL's are as follows: https://caos.nplus1.net/c-arbre/ https://caos.nplus1.net/dokuwiki/ https://caos.nplus1.net/pwp/ https://caos.nplus1.net/tikiwiki/ Both C-Arbre and Tikiwiki allow for individual user registration and accounts, and they both offer more than simply a Wiki engine. Dokuwiki and PWP are strictly wikis, the former being designed specifically for collaborative documentation. Please note that I have done little or no customization to these samples thus far. Graphics, color schemes, etc. will be finalized after we choose a Wiki. Right now we're evaluating the samples for flexibility, features, ease of use, compliance with wiki standards, etc. I would appreciate your feedback. Send it to mej(a)caosity.org, post to the mailing list, or add it to the wiki itself. Thanks, Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ <mej(a)kainx.org> n + 1, Inc., http://www.nplus1.net/ Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "When I was in prison, I was wrapped in all those deep books. That Tolstoy crap. People shouldn't read that stuff." -- boxer Mike Tyson on what he read before he decided he preferred comic books

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Wiki...
by Denis E. Pilon 24 Nov '04

24 Nov '04

I vote for twikiwiki... Also see it in action here: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php DP

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Updating on CentOS-3.3
by John Hinton 24 Nov '04

24 Nov '04

Sorry to be beating a dead horse to death here... but... in the archives, mostly the FAQ is mentioned, but the FAQ seems to be 'coming soon'. :) I just did a clean install of 3.3. I am operating from the command line. I first mistakenly ran.. been there done that on WhiteBox as well. :( rpm --import /usr/share/rhn/RPM-GPG-KEY Got what I understand now is the expected errors. I then ran rpm --import /usr/share/doc/centos-release-3.3/RPM-GPG-KEY I looked and the file is in fact there. And I'm still getting the errors in both up2date -u and yum update. warning: rpmts_HdrFromFdno: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 025e513b Error: Could not find the GPG Key necessary to validate pkg /var/cache/yum/update/packages/cups-1.1.17-13.3.16.i386.rpm Thanks for any help. Perhaps one good email clearly explaining the whole deal on this would prevent more of these snippets spread across the archives, until the FAQ is back up? Maybe? ;) Thanks for a great release! John Hinton

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CentOS 3.3
by Dominic Iadicicco 23 Nov '04

23 Nov '04

Could anyone tell me why the font's in Mozilla look terrible after a fresh install of CentOS 3.3?

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This is interesting
by Dominic Iadicicco 23 Nov '04

23 Nov '04

Hello all, Now my spell check is missing from the Mozilla mail client. Has anyone experienced this one? and if so, what is the possible solution? Thanks all, Dom

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Re: [Centos] Having little problems with 3.3
by Dominic Iadicicco 23 Nov '04

23 Nov '04

At least we can solve the oo problem, the disks contain the rpms for it and it did work when I installed it, but whats really scary is the font's in Mozilla. I don't what happed there. Dom Benjamin J. Weiss wrote: >On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 diadicic(a)optonline.net wrote: > > > >>Hello all, >> >> I just installed 3.3. All three disk download ok and when I ran the test on them, all three passed so I thought that the install would go fine and it did. >> However after using it for about 5 min I have noticed two things. OO does not install by default. When I did a reinstall I noticed that there is not option to even select it. Maybe there is something wrong with my disks, I don't know I just what to see if anyone else is having this problem. The rpms for OO are one the disks they just don't install even with the office packages selected during the install. >> >>The other thing I noticed is the fonts in Mozilla. Now CentOS 3.1 and Whitebox 3rc2 fonts in mozilla are great. But CentOS 3.3 I don't know what happen. Like I said may its the disks I downloaded. >> >> >>Has anyone else had or heard of these aliments? >> >> > >Same here. If I go into the "details" for the office selection during the >install, Open Office doesn't even show up. > >Either RedHat messed up on their latest redo, or CentOS has something >broken... > >Ben > > > >

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