Discuss July 2004

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Re: [Centos] Diff files to be made publicly available.
by kevin 15 Jul '04

15 Jul '04

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, Bart Schaefer wrote: >Content-Type=message/rfc822 >Content-Description=embedded message >Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 02:05:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Bart Schaefer <schaefer+centos(a)zanshin.com> >To: kevin <kwood(a)free.fr> >Cc: centos(a)caosity.org >Subject: Re: [Centos] Diff files to be made publicly available. >On Thu, 15 Jul 2004, kevin wrote: >> However, can someone please explain the following line >> from redhat-logos.spec in CentOS 3.1 SRPMS: >> >> License: GPL - CentOS logos Copyright 2003 and Trademark Definitive >> Software Ltd >> >> I hope CentOS is 100% GPL, open source software, >> free for all men (and women) to copy and distribute at a small cost >Copyright is not license. Okay. >Materials can be *licensed* under the GPL, and therefore freely copied, >even when copyrighted. In fact, the entire basis of the GPL, as I >understand it (IANAL etc. etc.) is copyright law -- someone has to hold a >copyright on the material in order to have legal grounds for applying the >GPL. If no one holds a copyright, then the material is in the public >domain and the GPL is neither necessary nor applicable. >It is true that in many cases the copyright of GPL'd material is assigned >to the FSF or some similar entity, but that is not a necessary condition >of licensing it under the GPL. >*IF* there were a statement somewhere that explicitly *excludes* these >images or other selected parts of CentOS from the terms of the GPL, then >you might have grounds for complaint, but the statement that they are >copyrighted does not AFAIK constitute such an exclusion. I have no reason to complain about the work done on CentOS 3.1. Its a necessary direction due to Red Hats chosen path. >The effect of the copyright is that you cannot separate the CentOS logos >from the rest of the sources and use them, independently, for some other >purpose, without permission from Definitive Software Ltd. The effect of >the GPL is that you can copy and distribute CentOS as a whole, even though >it includes the copyrighted images. Do you see the distinction? Okay imagine I have removed the images from CentOS 3.1 and replaced them with other images I created, or with no copyright restriction. Are there any other copyrighted parts to CentOS 3.1? Is some of the code copyrighted also? >(Again, I am not a lawyer, and the GPL has all sorts of other effects that >might be construed to make it possible to re-use the logos.) Thanks for the clear response. Kevin Wood. Looking for truth and clarity nothing more..... but if you throw in a bonus, thats fine with me.

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CentOS 3.1 kernel crashes
by Shawn M. Jones 12 Jul '04

12 Jul '04

Greetings everyone, I've got a problem with my fileserver running CentOS 3.1. The kernel seems to crash about once a day (inevitably when I'm not present), forcing me to reboot. This behavior started after I applied the new kernel patch (2.4.21-15.0.3.EL.c0). I've left it on 2.4.21-15.0.2 for a little bit to see if it will crash tonight/tomorrow. As this may be a hardware problem, I'm reluctant to put it into bugzilla until I can pin it on something. The server has an A-Bit KR7A motherboard with an Athlon XP 1700+, 1.5 GB of RAM, 4 120 GB ATA-100 hard drives mirrored in two sets (hence I only have 240 GB available), a Cirrus Logic GD 5430 video card, and an Intel EtherExpress Pro 100. There is nothing useful in /var/log/messages and the only reason I know when it crashes is due to my fetchmail log. Has anyone else seen anything like this? Did I patch too soon? Any suggestions on where I might look for info on why it's crashing? The screen's blank and the keyboard lights are flashing. Thanks in advance, Shawn M. Jones

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yum upgrade RHEL 2.1 to CentOS-3
by Josh Hildebrand 09 Jul '04

09 Jul '04

Has any one tried to upgrade from RHAS/RHEL 2.1 to CentOS-3 using yum? Is a reboot necessary for anything other than the kernel? How smoothly did it go? And how did you do it? -- Josh Hildebrand Senior Network Engineer Newgistics, Inc... The Leader in Returns Management Solutions 512-225-6044 Newgistics, Inc. Company Confidential

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Re: [Centos] CentOS 3.1 kernel crashes
by C.M. Connelly 09 Jul '04

09 Jul '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 "SMJ" == Shawn M Jones <smj(a)littleprojects.org> SMJ> Greetings everyone, I've got a problem with my fileserver SMJ> running CentOS 3.1. The kernel seems to crash about once SMJ> a day (inevitably when I'm not present), forcing me to SMJ> reboot. This behavior started after I applied the new SMJ> kernel patch (2.4.21-15.0.3.EL.c0). SMJ> There is nothing useful in /var/log/messages and the only SMJ> reason I know when it crashes is due to my fetchmail log. SMJ> Has anyone else seen anything like this? Did I patch too SMJ> soon? My workstation (running the new kernel) did something similar yesterday -- I left my office, came back a while later, and the screen was blank. I wasn't able to switch to a VC or log in remotely (the system was pingable, and the first chunk of an SSH connection would succeed, but not complete). I was forced to power cycle. What seemed to be the same problem happened to our main file server, still running RHL9 with kernel 2.4.20-31.9smp, the day before. With no X, I was able to type a username at the login: prompt, but never got a password prompt. The machine behaved similarly with ssh connections. There was nothing obvious in the logs. I could figure out roughly when the crash happened because nothing appeared in the logs after that time. Claire *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Claire Connelly cmc(a)math.hmc.edu Systems Administrator (909) 621-8754 Department of Mathematics Harvey Mudd College *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 <http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/> iD8DBQFA7tupB0pE8d7vd8wRAgJGAJ9EoBicmziKwHGhCQD3HrA10wuA2ACdGc/c ePxg1Ln8c/sRIIvJ1tznm2s= =gupq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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http-devel problem
by Petr "Qaxi" Klima 09 Jul '04

09 Jul '04

I found a minor problem in httpd-devel-2.0.46-32.ent.3.centos.1 package in files used for developement for Apache webserver in directory /usr/lib/httpd/build thee a re weird INCLIDES paths: # pwd /usr/lib/httpd/build # grep cent * apr_rules.mk:apr_builddir=/home/centos/upd2/BUILD/httpd-2.0.46/prefork/srclib/apr apr_rules.mk:apr_builders=/home/centos/upd2/BUILD/httpd-2.0.46/srclib/apr/build config_vars.mk:APR_INCLUDEDIR = /home/centos/upd2/BUILD/httpd-2.0.46/prefork/srclib/apr/include /home/centos/upd2/BUILD/httpd-2.0.46/srclib/apr/include config_vars.mk:APU_INCLUDEDIR = /home/centos/upd2/BUILD/httpd-2.0.46/prefork/srclib/apr-util/include /home/centos/upd2/BUILD/httpd-2.0.46/srclib/apr-util/include those "dirs" should point to "real" include directories (at least in config_vars.mk)... when I overwrite APR_INCLUDEDIR and APU_INCLUDEDIR in config_vars.mk to /usr/include/http compilation works OK by Petr Klima

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Re: more cron job madness
by Rick Graves 08 Jul '04

08 Jul '04

Hey, UNCLE! I added a warning to the YUM HowTo. I will also look into this further, and may be back with one or more proposed solutions. Rick

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Updated httpd packages fix security issues
by Lance Davis 07 Jul '04

07 Jul '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 There is an update to httpd for CentOS 3.1 https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2004-342.html refers. Updated files are :- updates/i386/RPMS/httpd-2.0.46-32.ent.3.centos.1.i386.rpm updates/i386/RPMS/httpd-devel-2.0.46-32.ent.3.centos.1.i386.rpm updates/i386/RPMS/mod_ssl-2.0.46-32.ent.3.centos.1.i386.rpm updates/i386/SRPMS/httpd-2.0.46-32.ent.3.centos.1.src.rpm These are available at http://mirror.centos.org/3.1/ and should be on all mirrors within a few hours. To update to the latest version 'yum update httpd' should be sufficient. Lance -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA61Q7cEnkTQJeUTsRAnDuAJkByi/gebJtuwqGPXIinqfE900GFACaA0qu tTGoTCciqpQUF3o8y1yOD+Y= =zDtW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- uklinux.net - The ISP of choice for the discerning Linux user.

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Re: cron job madness
by Rick Graves 07 Jul '04

07 Jul '04

Hey, > check-update sounds better than putting yum update in a cron job. Only a mad man would do that! Are the cAos and CentOS releases THAT BAD? > Much better to run a daily cron which rsyncs your local patch repository. So must one have your own local repository to avoid being labeled as a madman? In which one of the RedHad reference books can I find this? Just curious. Rick

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Re: YUM updates
by Rick Graves 05 Jul '04

05 Jul '04

Hey, > The easy way to make sure you are up to date with > all the latest patches is to run: > # yum update There is an even easier way -- tell cron to apply YUM updates every day. There is a HowTo on the cAos site here: http://www.caosity.org/index.php?option=displaypage&Itemid=102&op=page&SubM… Rick

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re:- (Another) Updated kernel package fixes security vulnerability.
by Lance Davis 05 Jul '04

05 Jul '04

sorry that should have read :- https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2004-360.html refers. Lance

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