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CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 100, Issue 10
by centos-announce-request＠centos.org 25 Jun '13

25 Jun '13

Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to centos-announce(a)centos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-announce-request(a)centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-announce-owner(a)centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest..." Today's Topics: 1. CEBA-2013:0970 CentOS 6 e2fsprogs Update (Johnny Hughes) 2. CEBA-2013:0971 CentOS 6 upstart Update (Johnny Hughes) 3. CEBA-2013:0974 CentOS 6 mobile-broadband-provider-info FASTTRACK Update (Johnny Hughes) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:46:10 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2013:0970 CentOS 6 e2fsprogs Update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20130625104610.GA27922(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2013:0970 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-0970.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: d9a75d9cb7a4b5058a12e744a4f36ab0f7aa0dc81787b666e41c220dd82b87dc e2fsprogs-1.41.12-14.el6_4.2.i686.rpm fa2c89ed4fe43a3a1e1705a07096d6ee29758e1acd80586c2c4e3fa4c6871f53 e2fsprogs-devel-1.41.12-14.el6_4.2.i686.rpm 7859cde45cb6b618e35893ed3746475cb66396a12f3303ebb66869e02131635b e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.12-14.el6_4.2.i686.rpm 5b5bbc863e6c574ee891846376606c86fbe54b20108fcd12fb3750947699bece libcom_err-1.41.12-14.el6_4.2.i686.rpm 4077ffa3fe186bf6f2227fca881c705804635a9110a0b111af47e6ff0b32b88d libcom_err-devel-1.41.12-14.el6_4.2.i686.rpm 55108567cf31420c6e2bf9baff1142993b889cd643b0eafb8b7354b04aa454a5 libss-1.41.12-14.el6_4.2.i686.rpm b29790a9bbf821b55d85b0b9a1b02dbaa16c3ea65a8a3178fc5513bca1c1b1ee libss-devel-1.41.12-14.el6_4.2.i686.rpm x86_64: bd4dac25e03d0e6d45b9af936c8b672464462225821fb3e5d648cc5c3bb5622d e2fsprogs-1.41.12-14.el6_4.2.x86_64.rpm fa2c89ed4fe43a3a1e1705a07096d6ee29758e1acd80586c2c4e3fa4c6871f53 e2fsprogs-devel-1.41.12-14.el6_4.2.i686.rpm ec37d1260a2249d1127486fd98186707591a73964172369048bda73a1db37a34 e2fsprogs-devel-1.41.12-14.el6_4.2.x86_64.rpm 7859cde45cb6b618e35893ed3746475cb66396a12f3303ebb66869e02131635b e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.12-14.el6_4.2.i686.rpm 629279790afbfc9fa81922e8b09334de292ce0fc0fc50f0a9ea55b5fd5f396c3 e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.12-14.el6_4.2.x86_64.rpm 5b5bbc863e6c574ee891846376606c86fbe54b20108fcd12fb3750947699bece libcom_err-1.41.12-14.el6_4.2.i686.rpm f63935b5baf477b3fb3b3b9ececd0f2272a7e5e219f7807472c626ed8e073b35 libcom_err-1.41.12-14.el6_4.2.x86_64.rpm 4077ffa3fe186bf6f2227fca881c705804635a9110a0b111af47e6ff0b32b88d libcom_err-devel-1.41.12-14.el6_4.2.i686.rpm 78cb2c656814d86bb322d0f568adeab31f6443ba21cc5ff68696359ce71c5a44 libcom_err-devel-1.41.12-14.el6_4.2.x86_64.rpm 55108567cf31420c6e2bf9baff1142993b889cd643b0eafb8b7354b04aa454a5 libss-1.41.12-14.el6_4.2.i686.rpm 398c748154e18380d19415c0eb669f296ae9a0bef3c582c7de57bef4f32706b8 libss-1.41.12-14.el6_4.2.x86_64.rpm b29790a9bbf821b55d85b0b9a1b02dbaa16c3ea65a8a3178fc5513bca1c1b1ee libss-devel-1.41.12-14.el6_4.2.i686.rpm 89a0cb2d3ec3d61c1efbeb16e5d00d0c6c37c44802fd64db14c829eb8a518d64 libss-devel-1.41.12-14.el6_4.2.x86_64.rpm Source: 3966d74226ef241dde7e517816617dba980fb8728f7691eb6577c09258470b66 e2fsprogs-1.41.12-14.el6_4.2.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:46:29 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2013:0971 CentOS 6 upstart Update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20130625104629.GA28006(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2013:0971 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-0971.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: d41a2e129a913e58e8a99dec900eae0613c3bd522924944c844e74a46cebdb4b upstart-0.6.5-12.el6_4.1.i686.rpm x86_64: 0ed423f64f126197207d84a28c4703e129dd5f4f36d911b13807c1c8a5633fab upstart-0.6.5-12.el6_4.1.x86_64.rpm Source: a0fecc043ef30505ddff13366f7f29d66fb917c05cd300a1ec1553ea2b5dbc43 upstart-0.6.5-12.el6_4.1.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:46:45 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2013:0974 CentOS 6 mobile-broadband-provider-info FASTTRACK Update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20130625104645.GA28121(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2013:0974 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-0974.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: 01872596b1f350c91ab2d678cae7ecded9ba8f383f61f6655d8c57feb6b07955 mobile-broadband-provider-info-1.20100122-2.el6.noarch.rpm 5aa82f6e9b9dc506a39d969de7ca1706e9bd6016915f0a0f466bea3a90ebfbcb mobile-broadband-provider-info-devel-1.20100122-2.el6.noarch.rpm x86_64: 01872596b1f350c91ab2d678cae7ecded9ba8f383f61f6655d8c57feb6b07955 mobile-broadband-provider-info-1.20100122-2.el6.noarch.rpm 5aa82f6e9b9dc506a39d969de7ca1706e9bd6016915f0a0f466bea3a90ebfbcb mobile-broadband-provider-info-devel-1.20100122-2.el6.noarch.rpm Source: ea6fcdcdc837686a288477d510b5ae7f401b001574ac8923f9867ebfb4733a90 mobile-broadband-provider-info-1.20100122-2.el6.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce End of CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 100, Issue 10 ************************************************

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[OT] bash here documents
by Steve 25 Jun '13

25 Jun '13

Suppose I have this C++ program: #include <iostream> int main (int argc, char** argv) { while (1) { char cmd[80]; std::cin.getline(cmd, 80); std::cout << "response to " << cmd << std::endl; } } compiled by: c++ -o junk junk.cpp and I have this bash script: #!/bin/bash ./junk <<EOF blah bleh \cC EOF echo "Something else" When I run the script, the program starts and waits for input forever. I have 2 questions: 1) The "blah" and "bleh" line are not echoed to cout. Why not? Does the here document not send the data to stdin? 2) How do I terminate the program? When run interactively, I use <ctrl>-C. Thanks, Steve

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automatic import of rpm keys
by Markus Falb 25 Jun '13

25 Jun '13

Hi, I read http://www.stigviewer.com/check/RHEL-06-000008 The CentOS keys live in /etc/pki/rpm-gpg and when I run yum the first time I am asked if I want to accept the key. Alternatively I could import them manually with something like 'rpm --import /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/$key, maybe in the %post of a kickstart. I am wondering why this import is not happening automatically at install time. There must be good reasons for that? -- Markus

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dmidecode Output
by Mark LaPierre 25 Jun '13

25 Jun '13

Hey Y'all, How much can I trust the output of dmidecode? The manual that came with my MB says that my MB can support up to 2 Gb of DDR2 RAM. dmidecode seems tell me that I can load up to 8 Gb on this MB. As 4 Gb DDR2 sticks cost about $100 each I figured maybe I should ask, what's the chances that I can plug in two 4 Gb sticks in this machine and actually have it work? [root@mushroom ~]# dmidecode | more <<SNIP>> Memory Controller Information Error Detecting Method: 64-bit ECC Error Correcting Capabilities: None Supported Interleave: One-way Interleave Current Interleave: One-way Interleave Maximum Memory Module Size: 4096 MB Maximum Total Memory Size: 8192 MB -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ ****

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Korganizer Calendar Alarms stopped working
by ken 24 Jun '13

24 Jun '13

For a long time--years-- I've been using Korganizer's Calendar. But lately-- since the last kernel upgrade, I believe-- the alarms don't work anymore. I set an appointment and (most of the time) schedule an alarm (one or more) for it, but the small windows containing the reminders don't pop up anymore... not even those set a year ago which always worked before. Anyone else experiencing this? Anyone know what a fix for it might be? tia, ken

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Best solution for TRIM on CentOS 5.x
by Wade Hampton 24 Jun '13

24 Jun '13

I am planning on using solid state disks with my CentOS 5.x systems. Currently, I am using EXT3 for the file system. >From what I can find, CentOS 5.x does not support TRIM on solid state disks? Is this correct? Should I obtain and build the updated hdparm and use that to trim my drives (for example, via CRON every night at midnight)? Or should I get fstrim (updated util-linux)? Any other suggestions on solid state drives (other than noatime on mounts). Thanks, -- Wade Hampton

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Bluetooth 4.0 with chip BCM20702A0 on CentOS6.4
by Heng Su 23 Jun '13

23 Jun '13

Hi All, I bought a USB Bluetooth dongle. However, it's not working for me. Please help, how to debug and get more information as I can not see any error or warning message from system log message. I checked http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.bluez.kernel/22183/focus=22211, however, also find another page https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux… said already support BCM20702A0. Please help, thank you. # uname -a Linux Host-004 2.6.32-358.11.1.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jun 12 03:34:52 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux After plugin USB dongle system print out below messages: Jun 23 13:46:33 Host-004 kernel: usb 1-1.3.4: new full speed USB device number 7 using ehci_hcd Jun 23 13:46:33 Host-004 kernel: usb 1-1.3.4: New USB device found, idVendor=0a5c, idProduct=21e8 Jun 23 13:46:33 Host-004 kernel: usb 1-1.3.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 Jun 23 13:46:33 Host-004 kernel: usb 1-1.3.4: Product: *BCM20702A0* Jun 23 13:46:33 Host-004 kernel: usb 1-1.3.4: Manufacturer: Broadcom Corp Jun 23 13:46:33 Host-004 kernel: usb 1-1.3.4: SerialNumber: 0002723348A8 Jun 23 13:46:33 Host-004 kernel: usb 1-1.3.4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Below is the verbose information via lsusb: Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0a5c:21e8 Broadcom Corp. Device Descriptor: bLength 18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bDeviceSubClass 1 bDeviceProtocol 1 bMaxPacketSize0 64 idVendor 0x0a5c Broadcom Corp. idProduct 0x21e8 bcdDevice 1.12 iManufacturer 1 Broadcom Corp iProduct 2 BCM20702A0 iSerial 3 0002723348A8 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 218 bNumInterfaces 4 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0xe0 Self Powered Remote Wakeup MaxPower 0mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 3 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bInterfaceSubClass 1 bInterfaceProtocol 1 iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes 3 Transfer Type Interrupt Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0010 1x 16 bytes bInterval 1 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x82 EP 2 IN bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes bInterval 1 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x02 EP 2 OUT bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes bInterval 1 Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 1 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bInterfaceSubClass 1 bInterfaceProtocol 1 iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN bmAttributes 1 Transfer Type Isochronous Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0000 1x 0 bytes bInterval 1 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x03 EP 3 OUT bmAttributes 1 Transfer Type Isochronous Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0000 1x 0 bytes bInterval 1 Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 1 bAlternateSetting 1 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bInterfaceSubClass 1 bInterfaceProtocol 1 iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN bmAttributes 1 Transfer Type Isochronous Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0009 1x 9 bytes bInterval 1 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x03 EP 3 OUT bmAttributes 1 Transfer Type Isochronous Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0009 1x 9 bytes bInterval 1 Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 1 bAlternateSetting 2 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bInterfaceSubClass 1 bInterfaceProtocol 1 iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN bmAttributes 1 Transfer Type Isochronous Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0011 1x 17 bytes bInterval 1 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x03 EP 3 OUT bmAttributes 1 Transfer Type Isochronous Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0011 1x 17 bytes bInterval 1 Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 1 bAlternateSetting 3 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bInterfaceSubClass 1 bInterfaceProtocol 1 iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN bmAttributes 1 Transfer Type Isochronous Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0019 1x 25 bytes bInterval 1 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x03 EP 3 OUT bmAttributes 1 Transfer Type Isochronous Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0019 1x 25 bytes bInterval 1 Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 1 bAlternateSetting 4 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bInterfaceSubClass 1 bInterfaceProtocol 1 iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN bmAttributes 1 Transfer Type Isochronous Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0021 1x 33 bytes bInterval 1 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x03 EP 3 OUT bmAttributes 1 Transfer Type Isochronous Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0021 1x 33 bytes bInterval 1 Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 1 bAlternateSetting 5 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bInterfaceSubClass 1 bInterfaceProtocol 1 iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x83 EP 3 IN bmAttributes 1 Transfer Type Isochronous Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0031 1x 49 bytes bInterval 1 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x03 EP 3 OUT bmAttributes 1 Transfer Type Isochronous Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0031 1x 49 bytes bInterval 1 Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 2 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class bInterfaceSubClass 255 Vendor Specific Subclass bInterfaceProtocol 255 Vendor Specific Protocol iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x84 EP 4 IN bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0020 1x 32 bytes bInterval 1 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x04 EP 4 OUT bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0020 1x 32 bytes bInterval 1 Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 3 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 0 bInterfaceClass 254 Application Specific Interface bInterfaceSubClass 1 Device Firmware Update bInterfaceProtocol 1 iInterface 0 Device Firmware Upgrade Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 33 bmAttributes 5 Will Not Detach Manifestation Tolerant Upload Unsupported Download Supported wDetachTimeout 5000 milliseconds wTransferSize 64 bytes bcdDFUVersion 1.10 Device Status: 0x0001 Self Powered -- Thanks & Best Regards, Su Heng

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install java?
by hadi motamedi 23 Jun '13

23 Jun '13

Dear All On my centos 6.2 machine, when I use its default mozilla to browse 192.168.111.121:10087 it returns "loading java class, wait" and waits endlessly. Can you please let me know how can I install java on this machine to get rid of the above message and be able to proceed? Thank you

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What method would you suggest for installing the Pinta screenshot editor on CentOS 6.4?
by Rock 22 Jun '13

22 Jun '13

A screenshot editor needs to do a few things - but it must do these three things easily and well: 1. Draw curved and straight arrows, dotted or solid line, with various end dots and points 2. Draw open circles of various shapes to highlight areas of interest 3. Text easily without having to pre-define a bounding box for the ad-hoc text By far, the most powerful easy-to-use freeware screenshot editor is Paint.NET, which isn't on Linux. On Linux, a distant second place goes to Kolourpaint; and a far distant third place to The GIMP (based on ease of performing those three items above). I was told today that Pinta is a Linux replacement for Paint.NET features - so I am going to install it to test it out: http://www.pinta-project.com Looking for an RPM ... $ uname -a ==> Linux snafu 2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu May 16 20:59:36 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux $ yum --noplugins --showduplicates --enablerepo \* --disablerepo c6-media, \*-source,\*debug\* provides "*/pinta" ==> nothing found http://pkgs.repoforge.org ==> pinta not found http://pkgs.org ==> finds pinta in Fedora packages 17, 18, 19, and Rawhide http://pbone.net ==> finds pinta in Fedora packages 14,15,16,17,18, and 19 Pinta source is also available here: http://pinta-project.com/pinta/download.ashx Given that information, what avenue would you pick to install Pinta on a 64-bit CentOS 6.4 laptop to test it out?

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Oddity with CentOS 6.4 instasll
by Scott Robbins 22 Jun '13

22 Jun '13

I have two SSD laptops. On one of them, I easily installed CentOS. On the second one, it failed at examining storage--it would either freeze completely or crash with a kernel panic message. On the second one, a generic Clevo, I decided to reinstall, and got the same issue--hanging or kernel panic on examining storage, though it had been trouble free the first time. I've been googling this and came across nothing relevant--in one case, it was due to LVMs, in another, due to a previous installation, in others, possibly due to EFI, none of which were a factor for me. On the Clevo, I decided to leave it as it is for now, as I'm using it, and the differences aren't major. On the other, an older Zenbook, the UX31E, I was able to get around it by installing CentOS 6.3 instead, which went in without incident. When it crashes, the machine freezes completely, so I'm not even able to view any logs, get to a terminal with ctl+alt+Fx. At this point, I'm not asking for help, as much as I am wondering if anyone else has run into this. Another theory given to someone having similar problems was to check memory, which I haven't done, but apparently, only CentOS and SL 6.4 have this problem. Also, as I can work around it, I am not going to spend a lot of time troubleshooting--but I'm wondering if anyone else has run into something similar. It's only been on these two laptops, and the only thing really in common is that they're SSD, but I have no idea if that's a factor--I don't have an extra SATA notebook drive to test if that's the issue or nto. So, my only question here is, has anyone else run into this, and did you find a fix? Or suggestions in trouble shooting? (Though I probably won't go to the effort of running memtest overnight, as 6.4 seems to be the only thing affected. I tried with both netinstall and Install DVD on both SL and CentOS, same result, crash or hang at examining storage devices). I have not tried totally cleaning the disk of either machine and seeing if that's an issue, but in both cases, there was both empty space and empty, standard ext4 partitions for them to use. Thanks for taking the time to look at this. Though I'm not going to invest a great deal of effort in troubleshooting, I'm certainly ready to try simple solutions. On the Zenbook, I don't have anything very important. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6

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