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CentOS7 and desktops
by James B. Byrne 14 Nov '14

14 Nov '14

On Fri Nov 14 19:04:48 UTC 2014, Darr247 darr247 at gmail.com wrote: > I fully expect this laptop to die anytime, since I bought it > in 2006 (its current HDD is ~4-years old)... when that happens > my next laptop/notebook will have CentOS installed on it > (probably 7, even though I dislike GNOME3 about the same as > vista compared to XP), and my backup copy will probably be on > an Android tablet. Having just gone through the CentOS7 Desktop experience I would say that Mate is, for all intents and purposes, Gnome2 on CentOS-7. And KDE is, essentially the Windows XP desktop brought to Linux. Obviously there are differences, some more visible than others, but I believe that if you liked the XP desktop then go with KDE and if you preferred Gnome2 then go with Mate. Whatever you do, ditch Gnome3. It is an exercise in futility to try and get anything useful done in the way of sysadmin from the Gnome3 desktop without having to first research, install and configure a significant number of add-ons. None of which are guaranteed to work with the next point release of Gnome. > I've previously bought 2 copies of RedHat > so I *have* contributed $$ to the cause, but I don't care much > for the whole subscription model; Community support works fine > for me (if I was running a business on it, I'm certain I'd > feel differently about that). Do not count on your current feeling changing in that event. We had multiple copies of RedHat EL for several of the early iterations and we moved to WhiteBox -> CAOS -> CentOS. Primarily this was because, in most cases, we got quicker and more accurate answers to our support related questions on forums and mailing lists. I am sure RedHat support is of great value to many companies. Probably it is the case that the bigger the client is the better the value received. But for us the benefit obtained did not warrant the expenditure made. And, given the installed base ratio of CentOS:RHEL, I infer that this is the case for many, may others. -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3

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outside ssh connection from two different ISP's
by Frank Cox 14 Nov '14

14 Nov '14

I have both cable and dsl service. The router attached to the cable service is 192.168.0.1 and the router attached to the dsl service is 192.168.0.254. I determine which service my computers communicate through by setting the gateway assignment to either of those addresses and it just works. I can connect to my computers from the outside by port forwarding from my routers to the computer that I want to connect to. However, the outside ssh connection works only if the computer's gateway assignment matches the router that I'm connecting to. I suspect that I have to set up some sort of routing assignment to tell the computer to reply to the gateway that the ssh connection request came in on if it doesn't match the current gateway assignment, but I have no idea how to do that. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com

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CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 117, Issue 8
by centos-announce-request＠centos.org 14 Nov '14

14 Nov '14

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Slow access from Windows 7 to samba share on CentOS 6.6 after upgrade
by Sorin Srbu 14 Nov '14

14 Nov '14

Hi all, Did anybody notice a really slow access from Windows 7 (especially from the MS Office suite) when trying to open a Word-doc for example, that sits on a samba share on a computer recently upgraded to CentOS 6.6? It can take up to two-three minutes to open a 20 kB Word-doc... I tested with the latest available LibreOffice for Windows on the same Word-docs, but this one doesn't show this sluggishness. Also opening PDF-documents on the samba share with Adobe Reader from Win7 gives this problem. Opening e.g. jpegs and regular plain text files with Irfanview and Notepad++ respectively is just fine. Pre-CentOS 6.6 opening any file on the samba share from Windows was lightning-fast. I'm not too sure where to start trouble-shooting. I've tried disabling the TCP autotune on Windows for starters, which a small improvement, but what next? Hints would be appreciated. Thanks. -- BW, Sorin ----------------------------------------------------------- # Sorin Srbu, Sysadmin # Uppsala University # Dept of Medicinal Chemistry # Div of Org Pharm Chem # Box 574 # SE-75123 Uppsala # Sweden # # Phone: +46 (0)18-4714482 # Visit: BMC, Husargatan 3, D5:512b # Web: http://www.orgfarm.uu.se ----------------------------------------------------------- # () ASCII ribbon campaign - Against html E-mail # /\ # # This message was not sent from an iProduct! # # MotD follows: # If it jams, force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway.

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Re: [CentOS] Not To James B. Byrne
by James B. Byrne 13 Nov '14

13 Nov '14

On Wed, November 12, 2014 15:50, g wrote: > > > On 11/12/2014 10:13 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> >> Well, no. Per the headers: >> >> Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: >> centos-bounces(a)centos.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) >> smtp.mail=centos-bounces(a)centos.org; dkim=neutral (body hash did not >> verify) header.i=@; dmarc=fail (p=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) >> header.from=harte-lyne.ca >> >> The p=quarantine setting from his server explicitly requests that >> the message be marked as spam if it s not sent from an authorized >> server, which don't include the centos list server. So it is accepted >> and dropped in the spam folder as requested. >> >> And at the moment, he is the only list member that posts regularly >> from a server with this setting. (We don't even see ones with >> p=reject, they'll bounce and get kicked off the list). > > Les, > > i believe problems are on your end, and not with server for James. > > i do not see "dmarc=fail" or "p=QUARANTINE" in *any* of his email > headers. > > therefore, i suggest that it is problem that _you_need_to_correct_. > The problem is not within the span of control of anyone receiving this message from the CentOS mailing list. Les is not in a position to deal with this issue any better than he already has. The people that are receiving my messages marked as spam are seeing the result of our DMARC disposition setting of quarantine. That simply tells conforming MX servers to mark the message as suspect and so allow the recipient to deal with it. And that is the proper thing for Google to do in our case. Messages coming from harte-lyne.ca certainly did not originate from centos.org notwithstanding that is who is transmitting them. And we are telling Google that messages from harte-lyne.ca should only be received from our authorized mails servers, which is perfectly correct. Google's course of action thereby leaves it in the hands of the recipient to manage what that fact means to them. It tells them that this message is routed in some unusual way and that it may be forged. That is important to know before one opens a message purporting to originate from a trusted source. As someone else pointed out, there is a philosophical question respecting who is the originator of any message that travels through a distribution list. And it remains unresolved. If the CentOS mailing list set the sender and from headers of all traffic routed through it to itself then the problems you are seeing with my messages would simply disappear. Because I would no longer be considered the originator. Something to that effect is what the changes to Mailman-2.1.18 enable while retaining or setting the Reply-To header to the original author's email address. I am not sure of the details. The retention of the originator's identity on mailing list mail is somewhat inconsistent with the premise that whoever transmits a message is the originator regardless of whoever wrote it. One can see premise that in the typical action of forwarding email from inside your MUA. The sender becomes the person forwarding the message, not the original author. One also must consider that when one subscribes to a digest of mailing list traffic, as I do to avoid the problems of identity that others experience, then the sender and the from are always the list itself as it technically impossible to have all of the the contributors designated as the Sender. It is therefore a valid question to ask how it comes to be that a collection of messages sent one at a time for a given source differs in origin than one sent as a single message from the same source? DMARC is all about forgery and is a response, albeit in my opinion a poor one, to the limitation found in most MUAs that only display the FROM header regardless of the Sender. Yahoo is draconian about this because, having had their client's email accounts compromised through a security lapse on their part, vast numbers of forged messages were sent to people with yahoo.com accounts who lacked the technical sophistication to detect the fraud. I apologise for the length of this reply. DMARC is not a simple subject to discuss. The topic of email identity is highly politicized and technical approaches to the question have already baffled some of the finest minds on the IETF. I doubt greatly that anyone here can propose any solution that has not already been considered and rejected for either political or technical reasons. -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3

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CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 117, Issue 7
by centos-announce-request＠centos.org 13 Nov '14

13 Nov '14

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b06f4e78322657195173bc49ab2852ff95ebf98661f7228d817cf1af40baa877 perl-Time-HiRes-1.9721-136.el6_6.1.x86_64.rpm bc503c12a6ad6317de3ee4464cd81a6081679c8c53aa2b30ef624bc037feec73 perl-Time-Piece-1.15-136.el6_6.1.x86_64.rpm 5e473fe3107a6158797ab4774a478ed14386260c9ef0a358c2324d8bcbc78ddc perl-version-0.77-136.el6_6.1.x86_64.rpm Source: bbda4e900dacb9f5857802f0067a87b26fafa46d5f2660115d0afb337b3cda45 perl-5.10.1-136.el6_6.1.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 12:50:47 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2014:1846 Moderate CentOS 7 gnutls Security Update Message-ID: <20141112125047.GA64051(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2014:1846 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014-1846.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64: a2ea3c099a7ac3fde0b5765424f47f1dcca3f8ffdb7fb99107c69bf9652f14e1 gnutls-3.1.18-10.el7_0.i686.rpm bff7312e5e9c7df0a6ae2919ce752c57e2a942a2a69b4adcb00548d9634e4f4f gnutls-3.1.18-10.el7_0.x86_64.rpm 74c7b568d9e6fcfde96db5b5da7d26c2ebcc1e54c5e0e250e1fd5879a21fbb3e gnutls-c++-3.1.18-10.el7_0.i686.rpm 8a01f2101228abb001c804729e4236761ff16f71b9722cc748d6d212be776d63 gnutls-c++-3.1.18-10.el7_0.x86_64.rpm 764f7daae4d4e7a7523c82f88375cc96d45e31d7034565ea7b852c24f4d31e38 gnutls-dane-3.1.18-10.el7_0.i686.rpm 55a82123cd98cd4c708f2f46eb6ff75b2e04c3937a9843e8fc439fafcb6e4b15 gnutls-dane-3.1.18-10.el7_0.x86_64.rpm 7bfe2b443b51af2fd37df7528af6c3638646b779ae1bd3d7da50ce3ca5ccff6b gnutls-devel-3.1.18-10.el7_0.i686.rpm 1f889ac146f9869c7662b35ec85adc6515037d60a7e520c1b4ffbd488829c741 gnutls-devel-3.1.18-10.el7_0.x86_64.rpm 6da4085f5f2c07b626a75482f49edd6a70b25b50bc6537806dcaaf3b16653ca6 gnutls-utils-3.1.18-10.el7_0.x86_64.rpm Source: d457f71a919a21ee0fd6a5e8d64f0f87337651fb359cc7d146abc4900f4d82fd gnutls-3.1.18-10.el7_0.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 12:51:02 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2014:1850 CentOS 7 virt-who BugFix Update Message-ID: <20141112125102.GA64125(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2014:1850 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014-1850.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64: a47f31f1e1fceef2f5821c905ce21ed452dfe0bd5cf95c8ba8ae0c633b8e7892 virt-who-0.8-15.el7_0.noarch.rpm Source: 278953fae130206e846aa517eb3fa66e7363022e125c38806dccc1acc8f1b924 virt-who-0.8-15.el7_0.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 12:51:19 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2014:1826 Moderate CentOS 7 libvncserver Security Update Message-ID: <20141112125119.GA64208(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2014:1826 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014-1826.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64: ec7ff8e89213e1f67ab4b0a3eca064b6968c1b308e03695e35bfb799a28493c8 libvncserver-0.9.9-9.el7_0.1.i686.rpm 1720f5c8df837269ae5be9c5dc10598ab4ca90281d4fb1d56cf52a44b6aa1760 libvncserver-0.9.9-9.el7_0.1.x86_64.rpm 073e759f54508f76cfbeb11e077107e88f6fc854b37d5fbbd2cb450806b805de libvncserver-devel-0.9.9-9.el7_0.1.i686.rpm a0f6d7d3c1fd46803c1826a3f67e78d813330c8ce81890cc368a0b5ca0459e50 libvncserver-devel-0.9.9-9.el7_0.1.x86_64.rpm Source: e3c8ed18fe9d8decdb2923b46340f5447322aeb4d768a7657ced40c5c0dce433 libvncserver-0.9.9-9.el7_0.1.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce End of CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 117, Issue 7 ***********************************************

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Re: [CentOS] Keepalived - spurious failovers
by John Horne 12 Nov '14

12 Nov '14

On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 16:45 -0500, m.roth(a)5-cent.us wrote: > John Horne wrote: > <snip> > > Given that failover only occurs if Apache, Tomcat or the NIC fail, I > > can't find anything in log rotation that could cause this effect. For > > failover to occur the Apache/Tomcat process must be non-existent (in our > > case keepalived checks for them using pgrep). We have secondary > > monitoring of these processes (Xymon using checks of 'ps'), and that > > shows no such failure. Simply logging into the servers and running ps > > shows that they are running. I would hope that something would be logged > <snip> > I don't suppose there was anything in dmesg, either on the guests or the > host? > Nope. John. -- ---------------------------------------------------- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK

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Anyone have any experience with Epson EasyMP projectors?
by Fred Smith 12 Nov '14

12 Nov '14

The folks at my office have acquired a new Epson EasyMP wireless projector, which requires a windows/MacOS plugin to use. Of course, they don't provide one for Linux. Here's their web page on it: http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/supDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes… Do any of you folks out there know of any way to use Linux with one of those devices? Thanks! Fred -- ---- Fred Smith -- fredex(a)fcshome.stoneham.ma.us ---------------------------- Do you not know? Have you not heard? The LORD is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He will not grow tired or weary, and his understanding no one can fathom. ----------------------------- Isaiah 40:28 (niv) -----------------------------

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Re: [CentOS] Keepalived - spurious failovers
by John Horne 12 Nov '14

12 Nov '14

On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 10:27 -0500, m.roth(a)5-cent.us wrote: > John Horne wrote: > > > > We are using CentOS 6.6 and keepalived 1.2.13 on two servers for > > failover, no load-balancing. Failover is governed by the NIC being > > present, and the Apache and Tomcat processes being present. Both servers > > are configured as 'EQUAL' (not master/backup). An initial priority of > > 100 is set, and if a process or NIC fails, then this is reduced by 60 - > > causing a lower priority to be seen and failover to take place. > > Generally this works well. If we stop the network or one of the > > processes, this is logged (to /var/log/messages) and failover happens > > within a few seconds. > > > > However, we have had failovers occur during the night several times. It > > happened last night, and the night before. Nothing was logged in the > > messages file about the NIC being down, or the Apache/Tomcat processes > > being unavailable. Nothing was logged by the Apache or Tomcat processes > > in their own log files. The failovers have happened at 03:56 on both > > nights. > > > > The most obvious suspect causing this would be some nighttime process > > such as log rotation or automatic updates. However, I can see nothing > > obvious occurring during the night that would cause the keepalived > > virtual interface to failover. > <snip> > I trust you've looked at the crontab, and /etc/cron.daily, etc. > Yes. Nothing obvious that would cause a problem to apache/tomcat or the network. > The other option: have you looked *outside* the systems? Do you have a > cable between the two, or is it over the network? Is there a network > thing going on? For example, are the servers on a UPS, and the switch > they're on not on one? > They are both virtual servers - so no UPS. Failover communication is over the network. John. -- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK

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Re: [CentOS] To James B. Byrne
by James B. Byrne 12 Nov '14

12 Nov '14

On Tue, November 11, 2014 19:33, Igor Zubkov wrote: > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Alexander Farber wrote: >> Dear James, >> >> everyday I look into my Gmail SPAM folder and your mails (sent to >> Centos list) are there. Noone else is there but you. >> >> Please finally fix your MX records or whatever is needed. No offence > > I bit a tired of this too. > > James, be the Man and fix your mail server. Or what else. > >> Greetings from Germany >> Alex > > Greetins from Ukraine (Donetsk). > But, the mail server is not broken. It is entirely to RFC specifications. Google decides how to treat the resulting confusion respecting mail forwarded by the CentOS list. Yahoo I understand simply drops it into the bit bucket and the recipient never knows. Your complaint would be better directed at the consortium of Email providers, including Google and Yahoo, who forced DMARC on the IETF; or rather entirely by-passed the IETF and put this Rube Goldberg hack into play regardless. The people who run mailing lists screamed blue murder but it happened nonetheless. In any case the fix to this for Mailman already exists. It just needs to be accepted by RedHat and rolled out as an update. I tried to build it myself and succeeded in getting a working version on CentOS6. But, the source package layout does not fit the HFS used by RedHat and I could not deploy it for that reason. Nor could I figure out the patches necessary to restructure the project layout into something resembling HFS. Nor could I figure out the interim changes between the current Mailman version and that shipped with CentOS to back-port the fixes in a systematic way. I apologise for the number of messages presently originating from me. This one included. Once I get past my ignorance with CentOS7 and can manage on my own I will stop annoying the list with questions and replies. -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3

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