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Re: [CentOS] A gmane mystery
by Timothy Murphy 01 Dec '14

01 Dec '14

On Monday 01 December 2014 16:00:44 m.roth(a)5-cent.us wrote: > >> I've been collecting redhat.fedora from gmane for several years, > >> but about a week ago I found that while I could read gmane newsgroups > >> I was unable to post to them - that is, my posts did not appear. > > > > To be honest, this was a test post, > > to see if I could post directly to this newsgroup > > (rather than sending email to the mailing list). > > > > I found that I can indeed post to the centos newsgroup. > > But for some reason I cannot post directly > > to the corresponding Fedora newsgroup, > > gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general, > > though I can send email the corresponding mailing list, > > users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org . > > > > Why can I post to one gmane newsgroup, and not to the other? > > I am subscribed to both mailing lists, > > and everything is exactly the same in the two cases. > > > > If anyone can cast light on this phenomenon, I should be very grateful. > > This is the CentOS mailing list. You have to subscribe to it, and it's > moderated (by someone who currently seems to have a personal issue with > me, so I can't post to it). It's not a newsgroup. Evidently you are not familiar with gmane. This is a newsgroup server that mirrors various mailing lists <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmane> including this mailing list, to which I am subscribed, and which is mirrored in the newsgroup <gmane.linux.centos.general>. > Is the CentOS newsgroup you're talking about a real usenet newsgroup? If > so, what's the name, comp.os.centos, or some such? I posted my query to the gmane newsgroup described above, and it thereupon found its way to the CentOS mailing list, where you presumably read it. -- Timothy Murphy gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin

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A gmane mystery
by Timothy Murphy 01 Dec '14

01 Dec '14

I've been collecting redhat.fedora from gmane for several years, but about a week ago I found that while I could read gmane newsgroups I was unable to post to them - that is, my posts did not appear. I was able to post to gmane.test, and could read these posts. So I assume there is no problem with my From: or other headers. I take it that the gmane.linux.centos.general is in fact "mirroring" the mailman mailing list <http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos> Assuming this is so, I don't know whether the problem lies with the list or with the newsgroup? I seem to be properly subscribed to the mailing list, with my current email address. Any enlightenment or advice gratefully received. -- Timothy Murphy gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin

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Fix for RHEL BZ#771868 in CentOS?
by Jeff Hammerbacher 01 Dec '14

01 Dec '14

Hey, We are blocked on a bug fixed by RHEL in https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2012-0362.html. Specifically, the splice code in sendfile() incorrectly updating the offset position on the write side, Red Hat BZ#771868. I have not been able to figure out if this bugfix is included in any CentOS releases. If you are better at reading release notes than me, could you please help me out and let me know if there's a CentOS release that includes this bugfix? Thanks, Jeff

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Re: [CentOS] ssh connections not closing when Qt application is opened?
by Michael Lampe 01 Dec '14

01 Dec '14

Dave Johansen wrote: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1086971 > I have been able to reproduce the above issue on my home network and at > work, but RedHat is claiming it is not a bug, so can some people on this > list give it a try and see if they can reproduce it? If you connect with '-vvv' you can see multiple x11 connections being open: debug3: channel 1: status: The following connections are open: #0 client-session (t4 r0 i0/0 o0/0 fd 4/5 cfd -1) #1 x11 (t4 r2 i3/0 o3/0 fd 7/7 cfd -1) #2 x11 (t4 r3 i0/0 o0/0 fd 8/8 cfd -1) #3 x11 (t4 r4 i0/0 o0/0 fd 9/9 cfd -1) The additional x11 connections are from automatically launched dbus stuff. On exit they don't get closed, therefore the hang. This happens on C6 and C7 with GTK+ 2/3 or Qt4/5 but not with GTK+ 1, Qt3 or legacy apps and it's nothing new. It just never gets fixed. (I think it's a dbus bug.) Michael

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Re: [CentOS] OpenJDK 8 on CentOS 7
by Fernando Cassia 01 Dec '14

01 Dec '14

On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Arun Gupta <arun.gupta(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Do you know the timelines by which it will be included in CentOS 7.0 ? > > Any place where a binary build can be downloaded ? > Two ideas: 1. OpenJDK 8 is available as a "technology preview" for CentOS 6.6, or so this article claims http://news.softpedia.com/news/CentOS-6-6-Features-OpenJDK-8-Support-463730… 2. Since Oracle Linux is userland-binary compatible with RHEL and CentOS, I think you will eventually surely get a build by Oracle for OL7 that you can run in your CentOS if you want. Of course #2 is only wishful thinking on my part. Just my $0.02 of course. FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act - George Orwell

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[OT] Searching for SNetTerm author
by James B. Byrne 01 Dec '14

01 Dec '14

Our firm is constrained by the requirements of an upstream VAN to use a software package called SNetTerm; an MS-Windows based enhanced SSH communications program. SNetTerm is from a corporation called InterSoft International, Inc. This firm's web site was last accessible in June 2014 and is now 'Under Construction' (in much the same way as restaurants are 'Under Renovation' I suspect). I have tried tracking down an email address but everything to do with InterSoft International, Inc. appears out of date. The phone number I have has been disconnected. So, I have little hope of getting any response from the business. However, the author of SNEtTerm is/was Kenneth Robinette. I cannot seem track him down on LinkedIn or FB (the one profile I found that appeared promising has been locked from viewing). So, in desperation, I am asking if anyone has any lead to contacting this person and can either provided it directly to me or contact Mr. Robinette and have him contact me then I would be greatly appreciative. If anyone has any information respecting the fate of InterSoft International, Inc. and their products then I would appreciate if you would sshare that as well. Sincerely, -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3

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CentOS6 gvfs disk thrashing
by isdtor 01 Dec '14

01 Dec '14

We recently started upgrading users' workstations to CentOS6. Now we've come across an interesting issue: ~user/.local/share/gvfs-metadata is filling up with tons of files. Once there are around 69270 of them, no more are being created, and the NetApp filer the user's home is on logs: Directory ..../user/.local/share/gvfs-metadata/ reached the maxdirsize limit. Reduce the number of files or use the vol options command to increase this limit.. Nearly all of the files are exactly 32k in size and they are named .openXXXXXX. All of them are being created within the same range of timestamps, with a time that's in the past. I.e. even when deleted, they are being recreated with these timestamps. drwx------ 2 user group 5353472 Nov 15 17:39 ./ drwxr-xr-x 5 user group 4096 Oct 29 11:05 ../ -rw-r--r-- 25699 user group 32768 Nov 11 17:11 .open0018OX -rw-r--r-- 42962 user group 32768 Nov 11 17:10 .open0019OX -rw-r--r-- 42962 user group 32768 Nov 11 17:10 .open002EPX -rw-r--r-- 42962 user group 32768 Nov 11 17:10 .open002GPX -rw-r--r-- 25699 user group 32768 Nov 11 17:11 .open002OPX -rw-r--r-- 42962 user group 32768 Nov 11 17:10 .open0037OX -rw-r--r-- 42962 user group 32768 Nov 11 17:10 .open003MPX -rw-r--r-- 42962 user group 32768 Nov 11 17:10 .open004NPX -rw-r--r-- 25699 user group 32768 Nov 11 17:11 .open0067OX According to lsof, the only processes operating in this directory are a few instances of nautilus and /usr/libexec/gvfsd-metadata. There's a whole bunch of gvfs* processes running user 21209 1 0 Nov11 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gvfsd user 21549 1 0 Nov11 ? 00:03:17 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-trash --spawner :1.2 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/0 user 21788 1 0 Nov11 ? 00:00:06 /usr/libexec/gvfs-gdu-volume-monitor user 21829 1 0 Nov11 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor user 21849 1 0 Nov11 ? 00:00:25 /usr/libexec/gvfs-afc-volume-monitor user 22150 1 0 Nov11 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-metadata user 22323 1 0 Nov11 ? 00:00:00 /usr/libexec/gvfsd-burn --spawner :1.2 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/1 Does anyone have an idea what's going on here? And how to stop it?

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Nvidia, vncserver, >> xfce = Resolved Issue
by Stan Cruise 01 Dec '14

01 Dec '14

The suggestion from Marco to try a non-3D DE worked. I tried two methods: 1. minimal Centos 7 install and xfce install via CLI. Worked fine. 2. Gnome Centos 7 install and then xfce install via yum groupinstall. Worked fine. One tip for anyone doing this: After starting vncserver the first time, it creates a ~/.vnc/xstartup file. This will be the same type of session if you logged in locally. Edit that file so that it contains the following: #!/bin/sh exec /bin/sh /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc Then it will start up an xfce session. A method to debug this is to actually launch the session on the host by running the xstartup file. If it works on the host it will most likely will work on the remote client. If you try this without the xstartup file mod above it will fail with the 'oh no ...' error right there in a new window on the host. It helps avoid some running around. Many thanks for the help on this. A nice side effect is that I am spending effort to install xfce on all my VMs. The performance improvement is dramatic. And mostly gone is that arduous Gnome3 DE. I really tried to use it. It's kind of OK for light work, but for any medium multi-tasking it is frustrating. Stan ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 22:53:21 -0700 From: Stan Cruise<stancruise(a)me.com> To:centos@centos.org Subject: [CentOS] Centos 7 Nvidia openGL breaks vncserver Message-ID:<546C3051.4040503(a)me.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 10:46 pm MT -0700 Stan Cruise <stancruise at me.com<http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos>> wrote: Thanks Marco. Gnome3 it is. I naively figured that this was the 'default' but alas it is a selection which I did make. I had seen hints of this in discussions elsewhere and did try KDE, but that is tough sledding on C7, and I got impatient. I should have stuck it out. (KDE has a bug on vncserver enable and creates the wrong symlink in /etc. At least it is different and requires work to get it right). Mate is my next try. I did try the nvidia-detect and it did say to use 340.58. Thanks again for helping me converge. I will be silent for a bit to try out different DEs. Stan On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 11:32:36 -0700 Stan Cruise <stancruise at me.com<http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos>> wrote: > / Bare metal Centos 6.5, vncserver running, client able to connect with />/ perfect resolution. Nvidia GT240, driver 331.49. />/ />/ Upgrade to Centos 7 with nouveau basic driver, all still works fine. />/ Resolution poor on wire connected monitor, but perfect on vnc client />/ session (1920x1080). />/ />/ Upgrade Nvidia driver via elrepo. 340.58; removed nouveau via />/ 'Software' manager. Excellent wired monitor resolution. />/ />/ But >> Client vnc connect receives the dreaded 'oh no, something />/ has .....' / Are you maybe trying to run Gnome3 through vnc by any chance? Because Gnome3 requires 3D acceleration, and I'm not sure that nvidia driver would simulate 3D stuff in software (nouveau should fall back to mesa in case hardware acceleration fails --- typical of a vnc session). So my suggestion is to try KDE or XFCE or LXDE or Mate or... any other DE which doesn't require 3D features to work. Such DE should work through vnc using nvidia driver no problem --- the only exception is Gnome3. > / Backed out Nvidia 340.58, back to nouveau, client vnc works again. />/ Also tried 304 driver (only other one in elrepo for el7) - same />/ problem. / You don't want to guess which driver you need. Use the nvidia-detect utility from elrepo, it will tell you which driver to install. > / Research seems to indicate that openGL does not play well with vnc. I />/ cannot see any solutions posted as yet. />/ />/ So, what are my options? / My choice would be to try a less demanding DE first. > / Maybe change out the video card for AMD? I cannot know if the />/ Catalyst driver will work, but there is a much more active and />/ extensive open driver community, which could work better than nouveau? / Catalyst driver has always been a pure gamble for me (i.e. worked 50% of time, supported 50% of video cards, and could be installed on 50% distributions... or so...). The open-source radeon driver is much better supported. That said, the radeon community is not any more active or more extensive than the nouveau community. It's just that AMD has released the specs for their cards, so they have a much easier job of maintaining the radeon driver than the nouveau community (which basically needs to RE everything from scratch). HTH, Marko

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system hardware discovery
by Fred Smith 01 Dec '14

01 Dec '14

Hi all! I'm wondering if anyone can advise me on how (or even if) I can trigger some of the install-time hardware discovery, specifically to rediscover the sound hardware on my motherboard. I moved a C6 installation to a new (and diffrent) motherboard several months ago. While most things went without issue, and while sound works, I have to manually change sound settings to enable the headphone jack and disable the speakers. And the reverse. Seems like it ought to discover for itself that something has been plugged into the front-panel audio output jack and adapt itself automatically. it's only a minor inconvenience,but one I'd like to fix. Suggestions appreciated. thanks! Fred -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- .---- Fred Smith / ( /__ ,__. __ __ / __ : / / / / /__) / / /__) .+' Home: fredex(a)fcshome.stoneham.ma.us / / (__ (___ (__(_ (___ / :__ 781-438-5471 -------------------------------- Jude 1:24,25 ---------------------------------

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