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C6.5 KDE - no more audio (yesterday it was ok)
by Patrick Bervoets 05 Jun '14

05 Jun '14

Hi, I've got an HP ZBook with C6.5 and KDE. Yesterday I was able to play music, today I can't get any sound out of my pc. lspci -v 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 1909 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 34 Memory at cca30000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [60] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ Capabilities: [70] Express Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel grep snd /var/log/messages (latest boot): Jun 4 19:45:20 Antisana kernel: snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0 Jun 4 19:45:20 Antisana kernel: snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0 Jun 4 19:45:20 Antisana kernel: snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 22 Elsewhere in messages I find a occurences of Jun 3 17:50:56 Antisana pulseaudio[3454]: alsa-sink.c: Waarschijnlijk is dit een fout in het ALSA-stuurprogramma ‘snd_hda_intel’. Meld dit probleem alstublieft aan de ALSA-ontwikkelaars. Jun 3 17:50:56 Antisana pulseaudio[3454]: alsa-sink.c: We werden gewekt met POLLOUT ingesteld -- echter een opvolgende snd_pcm_avail() gaf 0 terug of een andere waarde < min_avail. (but the sound worked at that moment) I tried with alsmixer, alsunmute and PCM and Master are unmuted and maxed. Any ideas? Thanks

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help regarding centOS 6.5- 32 bits
by Uche Kingsley 04 Jun '14

04 Jun '14

hello, I am using Centos 6.4 (64 bits) but I want to install CentOS 6.5 32 bits which is compatible with the project am working on. Please how can I successfully install the 6.5 32 bits. Help needed please. thanks

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CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 112, Issue 2
by centos-announce-request＠centos.org 04 Jun '14

04 Jun '14

Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to centos-announce(a)centos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-announce-request(a)centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-announce-owner(a)centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest..." Today's Topics: 1. CEEA-2014:0592 CentOS 5 tzdata Update (Johnny Hughes) 2. CEEA-2014:0592 CentOS 6 tzdata Update (Johnny Hughes) 3. CESA-2014:0595 Important CentOS 6 gnutls Update (Karanbir Singh) 4. CESA-2014:0594 Important CentOS 5 gnutls Update (Karanbir Singh) 5. CESA-2014:0597 Moderate CentOS 6 squid Update (Johnny Hughes) 6. CESA-2014:0596 Moderate CentOS 6 libtasn1 Update (Johnny Hughes) 7. CEBA-2014:0622 CentOS 6 grep FASTTRACK Update (Johnny Hughes) 8. CEBA-2014:0623 CentOS 6 ksh Update (Johnny Hughes) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 15:47:48 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEEA-2014:0592 CentOS 5 tzdata Update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20140602154748.GA4689(a)chakra.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Enhancement Advisory 2014:0592 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2014-0592.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: e7cb59b5f6e6ebfef5275e983aa8a38bb2e02b2814daa4571ed10895347f9c10 tzdata-2014d-1.el5.i386.rpm 075851dd0716ab5b783c1ddb6ad60348454dba52fb06ee72796a96fed9202a3d tzdata-java-2014d-1.el5.i386.rpm x86_64: c3c4f6b260e8a3517b3c4407d877738b691558ea144c8f436ede883a2e8ad493 tzdata-2014d-1.el5.x86_64.rpm d4a68a2bb67bb4900f935e4a0a5ecc599a6a2d865a2e5049c81c4cb75d1c5094 tzdata-java-2014d-1.el5.x86_64.rpm Source: 557cb5a61e61ae724e86a3741318dfc242e0c04817ea14b56a82b66c8e2ab117 tzdata-2014d-1.el5.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 15:51:39 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEEA-2014:0592 CentOS 6 tzdata Update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20140602155139.GA58333(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Enhancement Advisory 2014:0592 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2014-0592.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: f3ef94d9c582cccbd28723f1115da9c7cf780803b51b0ed6ce1affc3e6728f22 tzdata-2014d-1.el6.noarch.rpm e735b788c87700e3f0a24543b74cfd9f9ff2a7a00b3cda971ca942b19a799ad3 tzdata-java-2014d-1.el6.noarch.rpm x86_64: f3ef94d9c582cccbd28723f1115da9c7cf780803b51b0ed6ce1affc3e6728f22 tzdata-2014d-1.el6.noarch.rpm e735b788c87700e3f0a24543b74cfd9f9ff2a7a00b3cda971ca942b19a799ad3 tzdata-java-2014d-1.el6.noarch.rpm Source: eea258c62b62ee1b4aa2fe39a254c0ac66f381f7e44ef3ab39b8111e0eee687e tzdata-2014d-1.el6.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 09:21:48 +0000 From: Karanbir Singh <kbsingh(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2014:0595 Important CentOS 6 gnutls Update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20140604092148.GA30985(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2014:0595 Important Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014-0595.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: 66cb5f85a5893510e888d010b724740069d027838320a95ff489d76c4f96c606 gnutls-2.8.5-14.el6_5.i686.rpm 8e5213a4b4abf358f5e1e9ffaf62ae56baa98e5c44928deeb29cd71d6546d1b4 gnutls-devel-2.8.5-14.el6_5.i686.rpm b9b40834f83c887b72c0e458df3c44d5afdf66e672a45edaa8aec9c84eb0bafc gnutls-guile-2.8.5-14.el6_5.i686.rpm 1e5ecce91f3c936d28a64172bc55039ca379f8c6e3453480883e747247ab5811 gnutls-utils-2.8.5-14.el6_5.i686.rpm x86_64: 66cb5f85a5893510e888d010b724740069d027838320a95ff489d76c4f96c606 gnutls-2.8.5-14.el6_5.i686.rpm eb3d9f8cad0b394e5b2a3255424e71838464c21d2125d45c0827e6b6f68e99d9 gnutls-2.8.5-14.el6_5.x86_64.rpm 8e5213a4b4abf358f5e1e9ffaf62ae56baa98e5c44928deeb29cd71d6546d1b4 gnutls-devel-2.8.5-14.el6_5.i686.rpm 9d3b20c52e53c1f722619123d373dcd485f0b373205b01f75a942f3412208244 gnutls-devel-2.8.5-14.el6_5.x86_64.rpm b9b40834f83c887b72c0e458df3c44d5afdf66e672a45edaa8aec9c84eb0bafc gnutls-guile-2.8.5-14.el6_5.i686.rpm 5050b4a177142ed798006d76aab6c2645ab2caa83b79a0d0e30635a295429976 gnutls-guile-2.8.5-14.el6_5.x86_64.rpm cf2767067c4c168981fa39fcd3a4483d6252e97f1e07c7a24429d358f759d0e9 gnutls-utils-2.8.5-14.el6_5.x86_64.rpm Source: c501ecc43d6caf9432cd44f040363c8ed5001e923001c5c7d28a6055766fb5f1 gnutls-2.8.5-14.el6_5.src.rpm -- Karanbir Singh CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: z00dax, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 09:31:23 +0000 From: Karanbir Singh <kbsingh(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2014:0594 Important CentOS 5 gnutls Update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20140604093123.GA2478(a)chakra.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2014:0594 Important Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014-0594.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: 488e46041ca1abecaf7781786ae37ea8b4c311f71c36a54409650341c0ada0f7 gnutls-1.4.1-16.el5_10.i386.rpm d0fd8167de0b5c2709a354fc1b15da06d01c11e5c68a6ebb524862fae3eb8c70 gnutls-devel-1.4.1-16.el5_10.i386.rpm ac70e842c7d03fec54653b9bbe3c09cd35c22732d0d20e79ef1601617ca4cb35 gnutls-utils-1.4.1-16.el5_10.i386.rpm x86_64: 488e46041ca1abecaf7781786ae37ea8b4c311f71c36a54409650341c0ada0f7 gnutls-1.4.1-16.el5_10.i386.rpm 40d9fe1e11b1f5753f664673de72e83615060ef2615f5c9a4bebdda11741cbc4 gnutls-1.4.1-16.el5_10.x86_64.rpm d0fd8167de0b5c2709a354fc1b15da06d01c11e5c68a6ebb524862fae3eb8c70 gnutls-devel-1.4.1-16.el5_10.i386.rpm 963b93bb011ac9b01321fd9625969c611187eff55da4e084d57c776df8bc05e2 gnutls-devel-1.4.1-16.el5_10.x86_64.rpm 114c9fb49c587bbc79a3625001f8479c7e31ecef1bed1525c8024436a0531947 gnutls-utils-1.4.1-16.el5_10.x86_64.rpm Source: 376c429dcc368ca1b53e3f9f1655aab0920b197a4ee313d54caf9f5fec995548 gnutls-1.4.1-16.el5_10.src.rpm -- Karanbir Singh CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: z00dax, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 10:04:04 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2014:0597 Moderate CentOS 6 squid Update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20140604100404.GA39326(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2014:0597 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014-0597.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: 7616514130cb666771103adc09048e8645235330e46fd37d2c761b96c5e6d9bd squid-3.1.10-20.el6_5.3.i686.rpm x86_64: 9c10f0d1bce399e52f0c9e722e27c0a4d9979775d7f005d64ef48a3b94c9d598 squid-3.1.10-20.el6_5.3.x86_64.rpm Source: 4ee2dca841521bff62ebcaae9f233d69fa54b68180de8b00d736b070628ae3ff squid-3.1.10-20.el6_5.3.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 10:04:23 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2014:0596 Moderate CentOS 6 libtasn1 Update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20140604100423.GA39429(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2014:0596 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014-0596.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: 159a21c14eec8ba904bb9940116d1e43ea73c164522f5665c0556bf478e23ca4 libtasn1-2.3-6.el6_5.i686.rpm 8d793fe06609239b3dfef610bf98c4f5e6377ae9dd87a9cbbcdd66da0284c347 libtasn1-devel-2.3-6.el6_5.i686.rpm 7fdae80221b5c8210a1415b840236cb0ed6ef32d6cc221577527f1de2bcd24d1 libtasn1-tools-2.3-6.el6_5.i686.rpm x86_64: 159a21c14eec8ba904bb9940116d1e43ea73c164522f5665c0556bf478e23ca4 libtasn1-2.3-6.el6_5.i686.rpm ee516dac9b0d36fbee5f77e443be13a7e4ca60c3f3105bdc50e112c7ae834780 libtasn1-2.3-6.el6_5.x86_64.rpm 8d793fe06609239b3dfef610bf98c4f5e6377ae9dd87a9cbbcdd66da0284c347 libtasn1-devel-2.3-6.el6_5.i686.rpm 7e900d9eb1350ee3e6b7c1de257336738f739b1145efd43bb07441bd2a7c7018 libtasn1-devel-2.3-6.el6_5.x86_64.rpm 862e23e9ccb839c42d52e85807391cabde95a4f8c08095e4fb04b0d0807687c4 libtasn1-tools-2.3-6.el6_5.x86_64.rpm Source: 24fe6cafdf3ed4c45d49395bdfd7a73e1a4b8c7fab9503fea801a6b68234b199 libtasn1-2.3-6.el6_5.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 10:08:39 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2014:0622 CentOS 6 grep FASTTRACK Update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20140604100839.GA39663(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2014:0622 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014-0622.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: 8c4405144885bec59c9abb46a43ee43ce9cdd1969058e3ebf822ee566882fcea grep-2.6.3-6.el6.i686.rpm x86_64: ed34833b26f3f68f657cddd0c2681cbfb107deea9069a18c3baeaf7b0c0e2899 grep-2.6.3-6.el6.x86_64.rpm Source: bb4335a2be64249289a7b61359ffbb8a532242daad8520e80ac2b1b539350436 grep-2.6.3-6.el6.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 10:09:26 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2014:0623 CentOS 6 ksh Update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20140604100926.GA39854(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2014:0623 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014-0623.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: 5943b8d63813a5842fdc03a9a6069e3dbfb8febde05eee268a2b643417179f2b ksh-20120801-10.el6_5.6.i686.rpm x86_64: 40bef23a580eefffa80229e2f919aeaf77132345ef64a0d565e8b2bff5cf4cb5 ksh-20120801-10.el6_5.6.x86_64.rpm Source: 7b5f3a552140fa822c2f9270163c5e6ae41ca2dd4bd0d81ce389f69b558bd22d ksh-20120801-10.el6_5.6.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce End of CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 112, Issue 2 ***********************************************

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Odd kernel panic, repeatable
by mark 04 Jun '14

04 Jun '14

I had an old server die; we had another, same model, sitting around lightly used, so I did what I've done before: swap the RAID card into that, swap the drives, even putting them in the same bays as the dead one, and boot. Nope. 100% of the time, when it hits switching roots, it kernel panics. Adding rdshell to the kernel line does nothing, I get no grub rdshell. Booting from a flash drive into rescue, it finds everything, *perfectly*, and mounts it all, including the RAID data drives. I've rebuilt the initrd, and no joy. Anyone have an idea? mark

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Re: [CentOS] Mother board recommendation
by Joseph Hesse 04 Jun '14

04 Jun '14

On 05/16/2014 10:28 AM, Dave Stevens wrote: > Quoting Joseph Hesse <joehesse(a)gmail.com>: > >> Hello, >> >> I want to build a lightweight server and install centos. Does anyone >> have a recommendation for a suitable motherboard? >> >> Thank you, >> Joe > > there are lots of motherboards that might do; in my experience make > sure it has lots of top end for memory, 32 gigs is not hard to find. > you also need to consider how many cpus cores drives other > peripherals. really it's a large topic. check ebay too, I found a nice > supermicro two cpu opteron board with 8 cores and 16G ram for $250. > > D > >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS(a)centos.org >> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> > > > Thank you for your reply. I am currently using, as a server, a workstation computer. It was built with a gigabyte motherboard and has 8G ram and a 1000G Sata 3 drive. It is accessed with ssh and runs an ftp server, a web server and a samba server so my wife can back up her pc to it. It is running behind a router. This computer more than meets my needs as a lightweight server except the hardware is dying and I want to replace it. The question in my mind is: should I just buy another workstation class motherboard and duplicate what I already have or buy a motherboard which is intended to be used as a server? Thank you, Joe

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Centos box and Cisco 3750 VLAN's
by Boris Epstein 04 Jun '14

04 Jun '14

Hello all, I have a CentOS box that has a NIC (eth0) on which I defined 4 VLAN's (counting the NIC itself): eth0, eth0.1, eth0.2 and eht0.3. Initially the Cisco switch was not partitioned into VLAN's which means that the only VLAN running on it was the default one (VLAN 1). I have then played with VLAN's a bit on the switch and at this point have two: VLAN 1 (which is default and can not be deleted) and VLAN 3. The CentOS box is plugged into a trunk port on VLAN 3 which by virtue of being a trunk should belong to all VLANs. However, this does not seem to work as expected. What I get is the following: 1) eht0 does not come up at all. ifup eth0 Device eth0 does not seem to be present, delaying initialization 2) eth0.3 comes up fine. 3) Other VLAN's do not come up. No error messages, just never show up. Any insight into this would be most welcome. Primarily, I fail to understand why all those VLAN's came up on VLAN 1 and why now even VLAN 1 does not come up - even though the trunk port the device is plugged into is supposed to be a member of all VLAN's. Thanks in advance. Boris.

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Mother board recommendation
by Joseph Hesse 04 Jun '14

04 Jun '14

Hello, I want to build a lightweight server and install centos. Does anyone have a recommendation for a suitable motherboard? Thank you, Joe

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Newer version of ffmpeg for EL6?
by Lists 03 Jun '14

03 Jun '14

We're trying to build a rich media website, and will need to re-encode the video content with ffmpeg. Unfortunately, the ffmpeg version that comes with the most common repos are rather out of date. As in 0.6.5 vs 2.21 being the most current version. However, ffmpeg looks to be a pretty thorny thing to compile with all the options we need. It appears that the FFMPEG with rpmfusion for Fedora is pretty current, 2.1.4. Is there a repo out there that anybody knows of that has a relatively current version of ffmpeg out for Centos 6? Thanks in advance, Ben

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external esata RAID box, how to spin down drives when idle?
by Fred Smith 03 Jun '14

03 Jun '14

I've posted before about my Venus DS3R Pro2, specifically in relation to using USB3. But this a different topic about the same device. It doesn't seem to do any power-saving on its own, i.e, the drives stay spinning continuosuly, 24X7. Setting the appropriate power-save options in the screen saver or power manager screens doesn't seem to have any effect on these drives. Wondering if anyone can suggest other ways to approach this? Normally it is idle for about 23H, 57M per day, as it only runs a short backup session at 00:30, using rsnapshot which doesn't take very long at all. cat /proc/scsi/scsi reports: Host: scsi6 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 Vendor: ATA Model: JMicron H/W RAID Rev: 0958 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 05 dmesg reports: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA sda: sdc1 sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk ... EXT4-fs (sdc1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: SELinux: initialized (dev sdc1, type ext4), uses xattr -- ---- Fred Smith -- fredex(a)fcshome.stoneham.ma.us ----------------------------- I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. ------------------------------ Philippians 4:13 -------------------------------

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[OT] OSX-10.9.3 cd ~'/ problem with spaces'
by James B. Byrne 03 Jun '14

03 Jun '14

Apologies for this OT post. I need some help debugging a bash script. It just happens to be provided by Apple Inc. In a terminal session under OSX-10.9.3 I want do do this: cd ~/'Library/Application Support' Which is a simple enough request. However, OSX returns: cd /users/byrnejb/Library/Application: No such file or directory. The space evidently acts as a delimiter to cd even though the path is quoted. However this: ls -l ~/'Library/Application Support' returns the directory contents without error. Apparently ls is not affected. I googled this off and on for the past two days and found nothing that works for me. All advice was to simply quote the path, which I was already doing and which also did not work. I eventually fixed my problem by doing this: builtin cd ~/'Library/Application Support' It seems that OSX-10.9.3 implements 'cd' as an external script that contains the following (Note the back-ticks surrounding the echo pipe tr commands): #!/bin/sh builtin `echo ${0##*/} | tr \[:upper:] \[:lower:]` ${1+"$@"} My guess is that this is where the problem is but I cannot tell what it is. Can a bash virtuoso point out the syntax error that is causing this script to mis-parse the path argument? I just want to fix this so I do not need to remember to use the builtin command when switching directories. Sheer laziness on my part. Thanks -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3

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