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latest freeIPA on CentOS
by Johnny Tan 14 Jul '14

14 Jul '14

We're looking to run freeipa on CentOS-6.5. It seems the version available for 6.5 is 3.0, whereas the latest 3.x is 3.3.5 (available in F19 & 20). And now I see 4.0 was just released and will be in F21 (with support for native OTP-based 2FA!). Has anyone attempted rebuilds against the F19/20 3.3.5 RPMS for CentOS? Given the dependency chain, is it worth going down this rabbit hole? Otherwise, is everyone who is running CentOS and FreeIPA pretty much using 3.0? Since it's a new build, I was hoping we could start with the latest stable, but not ready yet to run RHEL7/CentOS7 or Fedora in our environment. johnny

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Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
by Les Mikesell 14 Jul '14

14 Jul '14

On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl(a)thelounge.net> wrote: > > Am 08.07.2014 17:58, schrieb Les Mikesell: >> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn >> <dennisml(a)conversis.de> wrote: >>> Also the switch from messy bash scripts to a declarative >>> configuration makes things easier once you get used to the syntax. >> >> Sorry, but I'd recommend that anyone who thinks shell syntax is >> 'messy' just stay away from unix-like systems instead of destroying >> the best parts of them > > WTF - you can place a shell-script in ExecStart and > set type to 'oneshot' - nobody is taking anything > away from you Unless you are offering to do that for me, for free, on all my systems, having to do it certainly does take something away. >>> Then there is the fact that services are actually monitored and can be >>> restarted automatically if they fail/crash and they run in a sane >>> environment where stdout is redirected into the journal so that all >>> output is caught which can be useful for debugging. >> >> What part of i/o redirection does the shell not handle well for you? > > wtaht part of monitoring did you not understand? Generally speaking, if a service is broken to the point that it needs something to automatically restart it I'd rather have it die gracefully and not do surprising things until someone fixes it. But then again, doesn't mysqld manage to accomplish that in a fully-compatible manner on Centos6? -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell(a)gmail.com

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Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 6 - rc.local does not run
by Ian Pilcher 14 Jul '14

14 Jul '14

On 07/14/2014 12:43 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 14.07.2014 19:27, schrieb Ian Pilcher: >> On 07/14/2014 10:39 AM, Cosme Corrêa wrote: >>> Is there a special step for this? >> >> systemctl enable rc-local.service > > on *CentOS 6* > let me hear from where you get systemd there > Whoops! Missed that. -- ======================================================================== Ian Pilcher arequipeno(a)gmail.com -------- "I grew up before Mark Zuckerberg invented friendship" -------- ========================================================================

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Cemtos 6 - rc.local does not run
by Cosme Corrêa 14 Jul '14

14 Jul '14

Is there a special step for this? -- Cosme Corrêa On Jul 8, 2014 4:32 PM, <m.roth(a)5-cent.us> wrote: > Always Learning wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2014-07-08 at 11:10 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: > >> On 7/8/2014 10:36 AM, Always Learning wrote: > >> > 75 baud on a TTY (clank, clank, clank, ding, thud as the printer head > >> > returned to the beginning of the line) and an amazingly fast speed of > >> > 300 baud on the up-market Terminet (? spelling). > >> > > >> > Perhaps the speeds were 300 and 1,200 baud? It was a long time ago. > >> > >> actual Teletype KSR/ASR 33 kind of machines were 110 baud (10 cps, as > >> they used 2 stop bits) > > > > 110 baud definitely rings a bell. I saw my first Teletype in 1967/1968 > > at Scotland's National Engineering Laboratory (NEL). Chugging away, it > > seemed to be an exciting example of "real" computing - and it wasn't a > > bit like punched cards. > > 'Ey! What'cho got 'gainst punch cards? > > mark "except the card punch in the lab that punched *other* than > what it printed, that once...." > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS(a)centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >

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Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
by Mauricio Tavares 14 Jul '14

14 Jul '14

On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Steve Clark <sclark(a)netwolves.com> wrote: > On 07/14/2014 11:26 AM, William Woods wrote: >> On Jul 14, 2014, at 10:19 AM, m.roth(a)5-cent.us wrote: >> >>> William Woods wrote: >>> >>> Please stop top posting. >>>> On Jul 14, 2014, at 9:48 AM, m.roth(a)5-cent.us wrote: >>>>> William Woods wrote: >>>>>> On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Always Learning <centos(a)u62.u22.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, 2014-07-14 at 06:42 -0400, Steve Clark wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Having been working with UNIX like systems since 1985 >>>>>>>> my biggest complaint with systemd is it so intrusive, it wants to be >>>>>>>> everything which makes >>>>>>>> it vulnerable to bugs and exploits - umm.. like Windoze! >>>>>>>> My $.02 >>>>>>> + $ 10.00 :-) >>>>>> Because UNIX has never had a bug or exploit right ? >>>>>> >>>>> Well... we know that > 50% of the Web and 'Net runs on Linux and other >>>>> unices. Compare and contrast the number of Windows Server >>>>> vulnerabilities >>>>> that have been exploited to those of *Nix... and, for extra credit, how >>>>> fast they were admitted, and fixed..... >>>>> >>>> Like OpenSSL ? >>> I suggest you google with the following search criteria: "windows server" >>> exploits >>> >>> mark >> Sigh, nothing like a zealot. ALL OS's have vulns and exploits, no matter what you decide to believe. >> > Sigh, nothing like someone who is in a constant state of deniability. > Ok, I posted last week a question in this list about configuring two interfaces, one of which being a bridge, to get dhcp and make the bridge one be the primary one as far as which dns and router to pick. Using systemd only was my requirement. i.e. using /etc/systemd/system/ instead of /etc/sysconfig/network{,-scripts}. The replies I got were "oh, you can still use /etc/sysconfig/network{,-scripts} with systemd *for now*, so you can kludge it together." What's the point then? systemd is supposed to handle something as simple as two little interfaces; I am not even talking about vlans and virtual interfaces. I know how to do it using /etc/sysconfig/network{,-scripts}, but that is besides the point. If systemd is the Way of the Future, I should be able to do this simple configuration in it in CentOS 7. After all, with CentOS 7, systemd is the de facto way to do things, right? I do sound annoyed because I am: I keep hearing about how systemd is "going to liberate us from the Old White Man way of doing things," and I am willing to be the devil's advocate here for I plan on using Linux in the foreseeable future. But, if it cannot deliver me two little interfaces up and running -- not asking for cookies and a massage but would not turn them down if I get my interfaces up and happy -- I do have an issue. So, for those who know the Way of The systemd, please show me here or in my thread (so we keep this one on-topic) how to do that in a completely systemd-networkd way (and why what I wrote is boink). Is that too much to ask? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CentOS mailing list >>> CentOS(a)centos.org >>> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS(a)centos.org >> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> > > > -- > Stephen Clark > *NetWolves Managed Services, LLC.* > Director of Technology > Phone: 813-579-3200 > Fax: 813-882-0209 > Email: steve.clark(a)netwolves.com > http://www.netwolves.com > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS(a)centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

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centos plus kernel - moving it in and back out again
by Frank Cox 14 Jul '14

14 Jul '14

I have been reading the bug reports about the problem with initializing Logitech wireless devices using the current stock Centos 7 kernel. It's my understanding that this issue will be fixed in the Centos Plus kernel. However, I suspect that the issue will also be fixed at some point when Red Hat get around to fixing their kernel as well. My main computer has a Logitech wireless mouse that's likely affected by the bug, though I haven't tried it yet to verify that. One of these days I intend to get around to installing Centos 7 on this computer, and this will then become an issue. If I install Centos 7 and then the Centos Plus kernel to get the Logitech bug fix, what happens when the stock Centos 7 kernel also gets the bug fix applied? Will a standard "yum update" automatically find and download the new stock Centos 7 kernel and set everything up to it instead of the Centos Plus kernel? I suppose I could go and hunt down a different mouse to use on this computer until the issue is resolved upstream, too. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com

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CentOS 7 - Add a menu item.
by Doug Sommer 14 Jul '14

14 Jul '14

I am kinda stuck. I want to add a menu item and like all previous versions of Centos I used Alacarte without issue. In C7, it will not allow you to put anything but a one name command. IE, firefox. You can not have something like java -jar /opt/PROG/NAME.jar. It grays out the OK button as soon as you put a space after java. Note if you edit a menu item that that has a space, it is also grayed out. Any other way to add one> Thanks - Doug

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Cloud Images
by Tim Bell 14 Jul '14

14 Jul '14

Any chance of a refresh of the cloud image (http://buildlogs.centos.org/centos/7/cloud/) and including cloud-init and the repos ? With this, we can start asking our end users to give CentOS 7 a spin on the cloud.. Thanks Tim

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CentOS 7 Cloudstack templates
by Nux! 14 Jul '14

14 Jul '14

Hi, Just letting everyone know I've made some CentOS 7 templates for Cloudstack available at: http://dl.openvm.eu/cloudstack/centos/vanilla/7/x86_64/ Any feedback welcome. Lucian -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro

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Whence Pan??
by Beartooth 13 Jul '14

13 Jul '14

Yum fails to install Pan, and neither epel nor rebelbase.com seems to have an rpm for it. Why not? And can I get an rpm somewhere else? Or am I doing something obviously wrong that I don't see?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is.

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