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Re: [CentOS] Centos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
by John R. Dennison 08 Jul '14

08 Jul '14

On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 10:08:35PM +0200, admin(a)rhsoft.net wrote: > > besides that somebody with "kill yourself" as reject message > has no permission to judge anybody stop that lie, it won't get > true by repeat it i am a subscriber - otherwise your mail won't > reach my inbox If you're going to lie at least put a little effort into it? Not a single one of your replies shows up to the list; the only thing the list gets are the contents of mail that people Cc: you on in their replies. You are not showing in the archives under any known mail address. Hell, even the header paste you just did doesn't back up your claims. Fact: You have been removed from this list and are using nefarious methods to continue to post to it in order to get your vitriol across to the masses. For full disclosure you are indeed 5xx'd here: /.*(a)thelounge\.net/ 555 For the sake of humanity please kill yourself. /reindl\.harald(a)gmail\.com/ 555 No, really. Suicide can be painless if you work at it. Perhaps you should ask yourself why I would take the time and trouble to drop you from my MTAs. John -- "Be always at war with your vices, at peace with your neighbors, and let each new year find you a better man." -- Benjamin Franklin

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Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
by Les Mikesell 08 Jul '14

08 Jul '14

On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl(a)thelounge.net> wrote: > >> Our servers tend to just run till they die. If we didn't need them we >> wouldn't have bought them in the first place. I suppose there are >> businesses with different processes that come and go, but I'm not sure >> that is desirable > > what proves you never done serious IT No, it means our servers run for years, > the goal of standby servers in case of virtualization is that > you know there may be load peaks from time to time but mostly > you don't need up 4 servers We design to handle a whole data center failure in only the time it takes for a new client connection. With/without systemd, nobody is going to wait for a new server to spin up. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell(a)gmail.com

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Re: [CentOS] OT - Re: Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
by m.roth＠5-cent.us 08 Jul '14

08 Jul '14

Steve Clark wrote: > On 07/08/2014 12:55 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> On 07/08/2014 12:44 PM, Hal Wigoda wrote: >>> You aren't old. >> And I am a young 21. three times over. All that means is I have to >> learn new stuff now 3 times to get it right! As some people on this >> list will attest to :) >> >> Soon I will be 26 (2^6). So that means that I have to then learn >> everything 6 times! > > Hmm... well soon I will be 26 + 4. Hah! Next year, I'll be 42. mark "in hex"

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centos iso to rfs_image
by Dilip Basavaraju 08 Jul '14

08 Jul '14

Dear all, 1. Is it possible to convert centos iso file to vmlinuz, initrd and rfs_raw.img. 2. Can I use only vmlinux, initrd and rfs_raw.img to install via pxeboot. Please share your information regarding this. Thanks and regards Dilip Kumar B L&T Technology Services Ltd www.LntTechservices.com<http://www.lnttechservices.com/> This Email may contain confidential or privileged information for the intended recipient (s). If you are not the intended recipient, please do not use or disseminate the information, notify the sender and delete it from your system.

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The easiest way for Fedora 14 to Centos 6 migration?
by Frantisek Hanzlik 08 Jul '14

08 Jul '14

I manage several Fedora 14 servers. They was not upgraded due to several reasons (systemd unreliability, K12LTSP support absence), some newer packages I was building & updating manually, some other (OpenOffice, Mozilla) was possible update from projects binaries. Now I consider the options to migrate them to Centos 6, possibly the easiest possible way. What I'd like is some as yum configuration files replacement of those from Fedora with files from Centos - and then simply do "yum update". Has anyone tried to do a similar migration? What procedure would you recommend? TIA, Franta Hanzlik

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Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?
by Adrian Sevcenco 08 Jul '14

08 Jul '14

On 07/08/2014 04:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 08.07.2014 14:58, schrieb Adrian Sevcenco: >> On 07/08/2014 04:22 AM, Always Learning wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 2014-07-07 at 20:46 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> >>>> On 07/07/2014 07:47 PM, Always Learning wrote: >>>>> Reading about systemd, it seems it is not well liked and reminiscent of >>>>> Microsoft's "put everything into the Windows Registry" (Win 95 onwards). >>>>> >>>>> Is there a practical alternative to omnipresent, or invasive, systemd ? >>> >>>> So you are following the thread on the Fedora list? I have been >>>> ignoring it. >>> >>> No. I read some of >>> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_topic&q=systemd >>> >>> The systemd proponent, advocate and chief developer? wants to >>> abolish /etc and /var in favour of having the /etc and /var data >>> in /usr. >> err.. what? even on that wild fedora thread this did not come up!!! >> >> i will presume that you understood well your information source and you >> are actually know what you are referring to ... so, could you elaborate >> more about this?(with some references) >> i use systemd for some time (and i keep myslef informed about it) and i >> would need to know in time about this kind of change.. > > if you need to know about changes the read the systemd-devel list and announcements > like http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-July/020903.html > > as so often the OP has no clue what he is talking about > because he ignores systemd as many other things completly > while think at the same time he can have a valid opinion > in details > > systemd-upstream discusses how to get /etc and /var in default > installs empty to contain *only user data* and no default > configurations which are placed below /usr and can be overriden > like systemd-units from the user > > the deeper reason is to achieve over long that a system can > boot without any configuration and so provide a clean way > for "vendor reset" in case of mobile devices, aplliances > and where ever you want to ship a defined environment which > can be reset at any point in time Thanks for info ... actually i am (pretty much) up to date with what is happening (i don't follow systemd-devel but i am following Lennart Poettering and Kay Sievers on g+) My remark was kind of tongue-in-chick with regard to "abolish" word.. And of the OP : the move of defaults to /usr is/was expected as from the beginning the usr consolidation was prepared in order to have a common system shared over network And about new mechanics of systemd: i can wait to see how seamless will be the use of chef/puppet tools on systemd systems. (and on any other cloud stacks) Adrian

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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS-7 on x86_64
by Robert Moskowitz 08 Jul '14

08 Jul '14

On 07/07/2014 04:53 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 07.07.2014 22:48, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: >> On 07/07/2014 04:28 PM, Jeremy Hoel wrote: >>> It's derived from Redhat 7,.. CentOS is always derived from Redhat >>> Enterprise Linux. Fedora is normally a preview of the next upcoming RHEL >>> release. >> Until recently, RHEL really lagged behind Fedora. With RHEL 7, they >> seemed to have taken on walking the talk and being as current as >> possible (F19 was the current release when RHEL7 development seemed to >> have started). It is great that this leap forward was made. Of course >> has the 'service' command been replaced with 'systemd'? That will be a >> big shock to Centos admins > what shock? > > systemd was introduced in Fedora 15 > current is Fedora 20 > most distributions switched to systemd > so there is nothing new And thus it is not in RHEL 6. If an admin has not been working with Fedora, then there is no experience with it. Plus it was easy to ignore systemctl in Fedora for a while, though by F18 it was hard to say the least. > > nobody forces you to upgrade to RHEL7 > RHEL6 is maintained for many years > > any Fedora release contains a wrapper for "service" > as well as RHEL7 does Yes the wrapper is there, but at least on Fedora, I notice that related items like chkconfig no longer worked as well, and I really needed to buckle down and learn systemctl. > > service httpd status > Redirecting to /bin/systemctl status httpd.service > httpd.service - Apache Webserver Which was a great hint to figure out what this systemctl was all about.

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CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 113, Issue 3
by centos-announce-request＠centos.org 08 Jul '14

08 Jul '14

Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to centos-announce(a)centos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-announce-request(a)centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-announce-owner(a)centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Release for CentOS-7 on x86_64 (Karanbir Singh) 2. CentOS 7 Release - Zero Day Updates (Johnny Hughes) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 19:30:23 +0100 From: Karanbir Singh <kbsingh(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS-7 on x86_64 To: CentOS Announcements List <centos-announce(a)centos.org> Message-ID: <53BAE73F.5010000(a)centos.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 We would like to announce the general availability of CentOS Linux 7 for 64 bit x86 compatible machines. This is the first release for CentOS-7 and is version marked as 7.0-1406 First, please read through the release notes at : http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS7 - these notes contain important information about the release and details about some of the content inside the release from the CentOS QA team. These notes are updated constantly to include issues and incorporate feedback from the users. - ---------- Updates, Sources and DebugInfos Since the upstream EL7 release, there have been some updates released - - these have been built and are being pushed to the CentOS mirror network at the moment. They will be available within the next 24 hrs. - From this point on we will aim to deliver all updates within 24 to 48 hrs of upstream releases. For the first time, this release was built from sources hosted at git.centos.org, however srpms being a byproduct of the build and also considered critical in the code and buildsys process are being published to match every rpm we release. Sources will be available from vault.centos.org in their own dedicated directories to match the corrosponding binary rpms. Since there is far lesser traffic to the source rpms compared with the binary rpms, we are not putting this content on the main mirror network, however if users wish to mirror this content they can do so using the reposync command available in the yum-utils package. All source rpms are signed with the same key used to sign their binary counterparts. Debuginfo packages are also being signed and pushed. They should be online by the end of this week, July 11th. Yum configs for both sources and debuginfo packages are included in the default centos-release package on every install. For the CentOS-7 build and release process we adopted a very open process. The output of the entire buildsystem is made available, as its built, at http://buildlogs.centos.org/ - we hope to continue with that process for the life of CentOS-7, and attempt bringing CentOS-5 and CentOS-6 builds into the same system. - ---------- Numbering CentOS 7.0-1406 introduces a new numbering scheme that we want to further develop into the life of CentOS-7. The 0 component maps to the upstream realease, whose code this release is built from. The 1406 component indicates the monthstamp of the code included in the release ( in this case, June 2014 ). By using a monthstamp we are able to respin and reissue updated media for things like container and cloud images, that are regularly refreshed, while still retaining a connection to the base distro version. In order to facilitate Special Interest Groups to further extend the CentOS Linux platform, we are also using component codes. The main distro is, therefore, titled 'Core'. SIGs would be able to adopt any name they need and deliver that by overriding the base centos-release rpm. - ---------- Download In order to conserve donor bandwidth, and to make it possible to get the mirror content sync'd out as soon as possible, we recommend using torrents to get your initial installer images: Details on the images is available on the mirrors at http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/isos/x86_64/0_README.txt - that file clearly highlights the difference in the images, and when one might be more suiteable than the others. The size, sha256 sums and torrents for the ISO files,: * CentOS-7.0-1406-x86_64-DVD.iso Size: 4148166656 Torrent: http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/isos/x86_64/CentOS-7.0-1406-x86_64-DVD.to… sha256sum: ee505335bcd4943ffc7e6e6e55e5aaa8da09710b6ceecda82a5619342f1d24d9 * CentOS-7.0-1406-x86_64-Everything.iso Size: 7062159360 Torrent: http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/isos/x86_64/CentOS-7.0-1406-x86_64-Everyt… sha256sum: 745a0a4a02147d8371b87dd09d402c7dc5fddc609caa7af44bc7b004de78c58a * CentOS-7.0-1406-x86_64-GnomeLive.iso Size: 1108344832 Torrent: http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/isos/x86_64/CentOS-7.0-1406-x86_64-KdeLiv… sha256sum: 2e926343f55903060bb453d0d1d21158d92a623c21ad5f820cfa8f97095888bf * CentOS-7.0-1406-x86_64-KdeLive.iso Size: 1298137088 Torrent: http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/isos/x86_64/CentOS-7.0-1406-x86_64-KdeLiv… sha256sum: 2157f276efbfc6ae2e037c29092a065628ba8598fe4c2c9b2473b3a5cd5b9abd * CentOS-7.0-1406-x86_64-livecd.iso Size: 720371712 Torrent: http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/isos/x86_64/CentOS-7.0-1406-x86_64-livecd… sha256sum: 89ef9fb1c5564ccbbbcc223369cea8bcebc84bb28464db812fe01b775f8cf779 * CentOS-7.0-1406-x86_64-NetInstall.iso Size: 379584512 Torrent: http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/isos/x86_64/CentOS-7.0-1406-x86_64-NetIns… sha256sum: df6dfdd25ebf443ca3375188d0b4b7f92f4153dc910b17bccc886bd54a7b7c86 The iso files are also available for direct download from http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/isos/x86_64 - ---------- Coming Soon We are currently working to extend the portfolio of content we deliver for a major release. In the past its only been iso media and install tree's, but with CentOS-7 we are also going to deliver: = Docker Images = Cloud Images in vendor ecosystems ( HPCloud, RackSpace, AWS, Google Compute etc ) = Cloud Images for direct download and consumption in on-premise infra ( RDO/OpenStack, CloudStack, OpenNebula and Eucalyptus ) = Given the popularity of the minimal install ISO in CentOS-6, we are going to try and deliver a minimal install ISO for CentOS-7 as well. One key challenge here is that the installer image has grown to nearly 360MB, and getting enough content into a CD size image is proving hard. = A community build system is in the works, we hope to have that functional by the end of this month ( July 2014 ), allowing us to set up a contributor base in the Special Interest Groups to extend and further develop layers and variants on CentOS Linux = Special Interest Groups including Xen on CentOS, CentOS Storage and CentOS Atomic Host are starting to gain traction, expect to see content delivered from those groups in the near future. = As a part of the expanded Core efforts, we are also going to attempt to deliver a CentOS-7 release for 32bit x86, ARM and PowerPC in the coming months. If you are interested in joining any of these efforts, signup for the CentOS-devel list at http://lists.centos.org/ and send in a self intro email and what areas you are interested in helping out with. - ---------- Dojo We try and organise Dojo's in various parts of the world as a one day event, to bring together people who use CentOS and others who are keen to learn about CentOS. The day's focus is on sharing technical knowledge and success stories. Its also a great place to meet and talk about upcoming technologies and learn how others are using them on CentOS Linux. 04th Aug '14 Cologne, Germany : http://wiki.centos.org/Events/Dojo/Cologne2014 25th Aug '14 Paris, France : http://wiki.centos.org/Events/Dojo/Paris2014 29th Oct '14 Barcelona, Spain: http://wiki.centos.org/Events/Dojo/Barcelona2014 This autumn and winter we also hope to host Dojos in New York City USA, Timisoara Romania and Bangalore, Pune and New Delhi in India. Please keep an eye on the page at http://wiki.centos.org/Events for details on these venues. - ---------- Getting Help The CentOS ecosystem is sustained by community driven help and guidance. The best place to start for new users is at http://wiki.centos.org/GettingHelp - ---------- Contributors This release was made possible due to the hard work of many people, foremost on that list are the Red Hat Engineers for producing a great distribution, without them CentOS Linux would look very different. The following people made exceptional contributions in this build, test release process for CentOS-7 : Akemi Matsuno-Yagi Alain Reguera Delgado Alan Bartlett Andreas Thienemann Anssi Johansson Athmane Madjoudj Bonnie King Brian Stinson Carl Trieloff Christoph Galuschka Fabian Arrotin James Moger Jeff Sheltren Jim Perrin Johnny Hughes Jr Karanbir Singh Karsten Wade Kay Williams Manuel Wolfshant Marcus Moeller Michael Scherer Mike McLean Pat Riehecky Ralph Angenendt Stephen John Smoogen Trevor Hemsley Tru Huynh Tuomas Kuosmanen Tuomo Soini Tyler Parsons - ---------- Thanks I?d also like to thank our donors and sponsors for their continued support for the project. Its down to their help that we were able to deploy enough resources to run the Public QA process for CentOS-7; as a data point we ran nearly 300 - 350mbps of sustained bandwidth for the last 3 weeks that we?ve had the Public QA running. And thanks to everyone who contributed with ideas, code, test feedback and promoting CentOS into the ecosystem. Enjoy! - -- Karanbir Singh, Project Lead, The CentOS Project +44-207-0999389 | http://www.centos.org/ | twitter.com/CentOS GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlO65z8ACgkQMA29nj4Tz1uwBwCfUiQvrdXE+dwEnYtvFv5EnZJg xCUAoLhleEjr6bvkv6TGYnkszJZBYHVr =yU1+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 16:39:02 -0500 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CentOS 7 Release - Zero Day Updates To: CentOS-Announce <centos-announce(a)centos.org> Message-ID: <53BB1376.1030205(a)centos.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The following SRPM packages were built and included as Zero Day Updates as part of the CentOS-7.0.1406 Release in the updates directory. To get all updates, use this command after installing CentOS 7: yum upgrade Updates: NetworkManager-0.9.9.1-22.git20140326.4dba720.el7_0.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014:0726 NetworkManager-0.9.9.1-23.git20140326.4dba720.el7_0.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014:0765 dovecot-2.2.10-4.el7_0.1.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014:0790 evolution-3.8.5-22.el7_0.1.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014:0714 evolution-data-server-3.8.5-24.el7_0.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014:0727 firefox-24.6.0-1.el7.centos.src.rpm and xulrunner-24.6.0-1.el7.centos.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014:0741 fprintd-0.5.0-4.0.el7_0.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014:0718 gdm-3.8.4-28.el7_0.1.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014:0738 gnome-online-accounts-3.8.5-9.el7_0.1.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014:0716 gnome-shell-extensions-3.8.4-10.el7_0.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2014:0719 gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.6.1-9.el7_0.1.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014:0717 gnome-shell-3.8.4-32.el7_0.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014:0723 gnutls-3.1.18-9.el7_0.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014:0684 java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-6.1.13.3.el7_0.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014:0685 java-1.7.0-openjdk-1.7.0.55-2.4.7.2.el7_0.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014:0675 json-c-0.11-4.el7_0.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014:0703 kernel-3.10.0-123.1.2.el7.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014:0678 kernel-3.10.0-123.4.2.el7.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014:0786 kexec-tools-2.0.4-32.el7.centos.1.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014:0722 kpatch-0.1.2-1.el7_0.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014:0724 libtasn1-3.3-5.el7_0.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014:0687 mariadb-5.5.37-1.el7_0.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014:0702 microcode_ctl-2.1-7.1.el7_0.1.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014:0730 openssl-1.0.1e-34.el7_0.3.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014:0679 openssl098e-0.9.8e-29.el7.centos.2.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014:0680 pacemaker-1.1.10-31.el7_0.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014:0725 qemu-kvm-1.5.3-60.el7_0.2.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014:0704 samba-4.1.1-33.el7_0.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014:0739 selinux-policy-3.12.1-153.el7_0.10.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014:0721 subscription-manager-1.10.14-9.el7.centos.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014:0712 subscription-manager-1.10.14-8.el7.centos.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014:0729 sssd-1.11.2-68.el7_0.5.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014:0715 tomcat-7.0.42-5.el7_0.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014:0686 tomcat-7.0.42-6.el7_0.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2014:0827 tuned-2.3.0-11.el7_0.3.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014:0720 tzdata-2014e-1.el7.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2014:0774 webkitgtk3-2.0.4-6.el7_0.1.src.rpm https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014:0728

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tui of centos 7 kickstart
by 彭勇 08 Jul '14

08 Jul '14

there is a tui of centos 6 kickstart. and now there is no such tui, only text line output. is there an option to enable tui of centos 7 kickstart? -- Peng Yong

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How to enable sound for other users but the one who owns the current session
by wwp 08 Jul '14

08 Jul '14

Hello there! I'm trying to get sound from applications running from other users bug the one who owns the current GNOME sessions. Typically, my default user is "A" and he's running the GNOME session, logged in graphically. From this session, I open terminals, su to other users (B or C, non-root) and run mplayer or firefox. No sound for these. Adding those users to the "audio" group didn't help. Any idea how to do this? Regards, -- wwp

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