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update from local repo mirror
by zGreenfelder 04 Nov '13

04 Nov '13

so this may be an odd question, but my google fu seems to be failing me. I've created a local mirror of centos 5 & 6 with various instructions across the net, it seems to be functional, syncs on a regular basis,and is generally usable (I've built machines with kickstart/netboot from it and they seem generally workable). my difficulty comes up when I try to use the local mirror for system updates. if I use the originally installed repo configs and run yum check-update, I get a list of 10-15 RPMs for updates, if I change the repo files, do a yum clean all, comment out mirrorlist and uncommenting/chang baseurl= http://localmirror/path/to/repo and run a check, I get nothing. if I look in localmirror:/path/to/repo and do a find for the version numbers I got as available updates from the remote repositories, I find appropriate files in seemingly reasonably named directory paths. my current best guess is that my repodata/repomd.xml file needs some sort of update/rebuild via the createrepo script, but I can't seem to find the 'right' way to this. does anyone have any pointers? thanks. -- Even the Magic 8 ball has an opinion on email clients: Outlook not so good.

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read-only file system when trying to save files
by Wes James 04 Nov '13

04 Nov '13

I have installed emacs with yum and now I'm trying to create a .emacs file and put some commands in it, but I can't type anything in the emacs buffer. It says the buffer is read-only. I exited emacs and did touch .emacs and I get a message that it can't do that on a read-only file system. I googled around to see why this might be, but I can't see any links on this. Any tips why this might be doing this? I've heard that centos is strict on changes, but I don't know the extent it restricts changes. I followed a page where I did echo 0 >/selinux/enforce . But this is only good until reboot. But shouldn't I be now able to make changes in ~* Thanks, -wes

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Building a new backup server
by Sorin Srbu 04 Nov '13

04 Nov '13

> -----Original Message----- > From: Reindl Harald [mailto:h.reindl@thelounge.net] > Sent: den 4 november 2013 13:48 > To: CentOS mailing list; Sorin Srbu > Subject: Re: [CentOS] [OT] Building a new backup server > > Am 04.11.2013 13:44, schrieb Sorin Srbu: > > I've come so far as installing Fedora 19 and having it see all the > > hard-drives, but it refuses to create any partition bigger than approx. > > 16 TB with ext4. > > this is notting new and Google would tell it easy > https://www.google.at/search?q=ext4+16TB > > https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto > > The code to create file systems bigger than 16 TiB is, at the time of > writing > this article, not in any stable release of e2fsprogs. It will be in future > releases. Ah, thanks. I previously read about ext4 and that its max limit was in the Exabyte range, but missed the part about the tools... Let's see if I can't do the custom-thing you link to. Thanks again! -- //Sorin

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Compiling Broadcom netxtreme2-7.6.62 drivers Xen4CentOS
by Ross Annetts 04 Nov '13

04 Nov '13

Having problems compiling Broadcom netxtreme2-7.6.62 drivers using the Xen4CentOS (http://wiki.centos.org/QaWiki/Xen4) kernel: CentOS release 6.4 (Final) 3.4.61-9.el6.centos.alt.x86_64 I had to modify the Makefile's a little to get to pass the validation since it was referring to kernel 3.0 and 3.5 but not 3.4. But after doing this I still had the following problem: # make make -C bnx2/src KVER=3.4.61-9.el6.centos.alt.x86_64 PREFIX= make[1]: Entering directory `/tmp/Server/Linux/Driver/netxtreme2-7.6.62/bnx2-2.78.11/src' make -C /lib/modules/3.4.61-9.el6.centos.alt.x86_64/build SUBDIRS=/tmp/Server/Linux/Driver/netxtreme2-7.6.62/bnx2-2.78.11/src modules make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/3.4.61-9.el6.centos.alt.x86_64' Building modules, stage 2. MODPOST 2 modules make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernels/3.4.61-9.el6.centos.alt.x86_64' make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/Server/Linux/Driver/netxtreme2-7.6.62/bnx2-2.78.11/src' make -C bnx2x/src KVER=3.4.61-9.el6.centos.alt.x86_64 PREFIX= make[1]: Entering directory `/tmp/Server/Linux/Driver/netxtreme2-7.6.62/bnx2x-1.76.54/src' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/Server/Linux/Driver/netxtreme2-7.6.62/bnx2x-1.76.54/src' [ -e bnx2/src/Module.symvers ] && cp -f bnx2/src/Module.symvers bnx2i/driver || /bin/true make -C bnx2i/driver KVER=3.4.61-9.el6.centos.alt.x86_64 PREFIX= make[1]: Entering directory `/tmp/Server/Linux/Driver/netxtreme2-7.6.62/bnx2i-2.7.6.1d/driver' make -C /lib/modules/3.4.61-9.el6.centos.alt.x86_64/build SUBDIRS=/tmp/Server/Linux/Driver/netxtreme2-7.6.62/bnx2i-2.7.6.1d/driver modules make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/3.4.61-9.el6.centos.alt.x86_64' CC [M] /tmp/Server/Linux/Driver/netxtreme2-7.6.62/bnx2i-2.7.6.1d/driver/bnx2i_iscsi.o /tmp/Server/Linux/Driver/netxtreme2-7.6.62/bnx2i-2.7.6.1d/driver/bnx2i_iscsi.c: In function ‘bnx2i_task_xmit’: /tmp/Server/Linux/Driver/netxtreme2-7.6.62/bnx2i-2.7.6.1d/driver/bnx2i_iscsi.c:1377: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /tmp/Server/Linux/Driver/netxtreme2-7.6.62/bnx2i-2.7.6.1d/driver/bnx2i_iscsi.c:1377: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /tmp/Server/Linux/Driver/netxtreme2-7.6.62/bnx2i-2.7.6.1d/driver/bnx2i_iscsi.c:1377: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /tmp/Server/Linux/Driver/netxtreme2-7.6.62/bnx2i-2.7.6.1d/driver/bnx2i_iscsi.c:1377: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /tmp/Server/Linux/Driver/netxtreme2-7.6.62/bnx2i-2.7.6.1d/driver/bnx2i_iscsi.c:1377: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /tmp/Server/Linux/Driver/netxtreme2-7.6.62/bnx2i-2.7.6.1d/driver/bnx2i_iscsi.c:1377: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /tmp/Server/Linux/Driver/netxtreme2-7.6.62/bnx2i-2.7.6.1d/driver/bnx2i_iscsi.c: At top level: /tmp/Server/Linux/Driver/netxtreme2-7.6.62/bnx2i-2.7.6.1d/driver/bnx2i_iscsi.c:2773: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type make[3]: *** [/tmp/Server/Linux/Driver/netxtreme2-7.6.62/bnx2i-2.7.6.1d/driver/bnx2i_iscsi.o] Error 1 make[2]: *** [_module_/tmp/Server/Linux/Driver/netxtreme2-7.6.62/bnx2i-2.7.6.1d/driver] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernels/3.4.61-9.el6.centos.alt.x86_64' make[1]: *** [iscsibuild] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/Server/Linux/Driver/netxtreme2-7.6.62/bnx2i-2.7.6.1d/driver' make: *** [iscsibuild] Error 2 Is there anything I can do about this? The kernel is based on: Linux Kernel 3.4.x (kernel.org long term stable kernel). I have started a thread on Broadcom forums but there has not been a response. Has anyone been able to get them working? Regards, Ross

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6.4 : How to enable epel and the rpmfusions??
by Beartooth 03 Nov '13

03 Nov '13

I've installed 6.4 on an old T30 ThinkPad, and I'm in the midst of setting it up. I can't seem to get an rpm of Pan for it, nor even to do yum update. Mousing around fedoraproject eventually got me to http:// rpmfusion.org/Configuration/ and from there to downloads for the free, nonfree, and epel packages (along with a caveat that tells you -- *after* you've gotten rpmfusion -- to get epel first :-{ ). The display on the T30 has given trouble recently; while it's working, I tried with packagekit to eliminate the fusions while keeping epel (actually,EPEL; it seems to matter). Packagekit told me that I had to remove the repository configurations along with the fusions -- a thing I'd've done before if I could, whereupon I'd've started over, with EPEL first. I approved that, then tried to refresh my sources in packagekit in order to get the fusions back. This put me through some tedious juggling of non-commutative commands. At the end of them, despite a lot of fussing with packagekit and some logging in and out, plus a reboot or two, I was still getting error messages like these for yum install pan *and* yum update : [root@T30 ~]# yum install pan Loaded plugins: aliases, changelog, downloadonly, fastestmirror, kabi, presto, refresh-packagekit, security, tmprepo, verify, versionlock Loading support for CentOS kernel ABI Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile epel/metalink | 14 kB 00:00 * base: mirrors.serveraxis.net * c6-media: * centosplus: mirror.es.its.nyu.edu * contrib: mirror.raystedman.net * epel: mirror.us.leaseweb.net * extras: mirrors.finalasp.com * rpmfusion-free-updates: mirror.us.leaseweb.net * rpmfusion-nonfree-updates: mirror.us.leaseweb.net * updates: centos.mirrors.tds.net file:///media/CentOS/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] Could not open/read file:///media/CentOS/repodata/repomd.xml Trying other mirror. file:///media/cdrecorder/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] Could not open/ read file:///media/cdrecorder/repodata/repomd.xml Trying other mirror. file:///media/cdrom/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] Could not open/read file:///media/cdrom/repodata/repomd.xml Trying other mirror. Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: c6-media. Please verify its path and try again [root@T30 ~]# I should probably mention that, when I launch packagekit, go to System and then to Software Sources, everything from CentOS-6-Base to CentOS-6-Updates is already checked *except* the one for media. Trying to fix that has been an exercise in futility -- I haven't found a way to tell it anything to use as c6-media. (It won't accept an x in the apposite box.) As root, I got to ///media on another machine as well as on the T30, and both are empty. (The other machine won't install Pan either; but it does do yum update.) Clue, please? Pretty please?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is.

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3rd party repositories
by isdtor 03 Nov '13

03 Nov '13

Can anyone comment on the use of 3rd party repos for newer versions of software like php, python and mysql? Two I am aware of are puias and ius. Is one preferable to the other? Can their packages be installed in parallel to and without interfering with base packages?

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Postfix vs Sendmail
by Timothy Murphy 03 Nov '13

03 Nov '13

I have two CentOS-6.4 servers, in different places. I am running postfix/amavis on one, and sendmail/procmail on the other. I don't recall having any difficulty setting up sendmail many years ago using sendmail.mc . But I found postfix very complicated to setup last year. (It's working fine now.) I recall that when I asked for advice one person advised me to read 2 books on postfix, and another advised me to pay someone to set it up. I asked why postfix was preferable, but didn't any convincing reply. The general response was along the lines that it was the "modern" way. Having looked into postfix/amavis a little further, it seems to me to involve excessively complicated processes (at least for a simple home server) with email going along spaghetti-like routes. Am I alone in this view? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

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How to debug a crash.. Looks like an abrt file.
by Howard Leadmon 02 Nov '13

02 Nov '13

I have to say the CentOS machines I have used so far seem to work well, so I was surprised the other day when an HP DL580G5 I had running CentOS 6.4 x86_64 the other day for some VM's under KVM/QEMU went belly up. Sadly the sucker was a remote box, so I wasn't just sitting in front of the console, but it looks like it left some files in /var/spool/abrt/oops-2013-11-01-14:00:22-8047-1 on the machine. The kernel on the box says it's 2.6.32-358.23.2.el6.x86_64 I have never used abrt, and looking for a man page on abrt didn't seem to come up with anything revealing that was useful. Needless to say having a box got down hard isn't really a good thing, so I am wondering if has any pointers or suggestions on how I can figure out what caused this crash, and if there is any way to correct this so it doesn't just keep happening. Bad enough to have a server crash, even worse when it takes along a bunch of working VM's with it.. --- Howard Leadmon

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CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 105, Issue 2
by centos-announce-request＠centos.org 02 Nov '13

02 Nov '13

Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to centos-announce(a)centos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-announce-request(a)centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-announce-owner(a)centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest..." Today's Topics: 1. CEBA-2013:1492 CentOS 6 pcs Update (Johnny Hughes) 2. CEEA-2013:1493 CentOS 6 pacemaker Update (Johnny Hughes) 3. CEBA-2013:1491 CentOS 6 selinux-policy Update (Johnny Hughes) 4. CEEA-2013:1494 CentOS 6 resource-agents Update (Johnny Hughes) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 18:22:23 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2013:1492 CentOS 6 pcs Update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20131101182223.GA60266(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2013:1492 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1492.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: c554608fb85ceddac965daa1888cbab6b1c51abce07f75d46eb9462509085ccf pcs-0.9.90-1.el6_4.noarch.rpm x86_64: c554608fb85ceddac965daa1888cbab6b1c51abce07f75d46eb9462509085ccf pcs-0.9.90-1.el6_4.noarch.rpm Source: e5427cca82285e07a1f18ad63276a4510e72ce92c4a3aa0ee00cbc64751ee4a6 pcs-0.9.90-1.el6_4.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 18:22:34 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEEA-2013:1493 CentOS 6 pacemaker Update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20131101182234.GA60402(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Enhancement Advisory 2013:1493 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2013-1493.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: fa769c1ad242ded4dfc276d2f00719c797ca2fa0363c7345a070b297c0561d89 pacemaker-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.i686.rpm b81c4809ccb6a29e6fc50b384fef44587d9915cf2060219297fd24bc87767c1a pacemaker-cli-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.i686.rpm d720fd86c4c417b107da87936affe1d8aebc8ecf7a4ac404af9f9c5dd1ca51d8 pacemaker-cluster-libs-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.i686.rpm 4e08f396c77f9478baaacf4208d2d764b7ffc0baa0a14bc7f4dabba655ddde9b pacemaker-cts-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.i686.rpm ab3ec4cb66c2ef70fcea4777aaf68617a39db3ee0b8f27af110e970fa179099f pacemaker-doc-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.i686.rpm be4c50155e19555de591e147a72b31cdd60aa5cb43ddd971fc652bccf5e43ae0 pacemaker-libs-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.i686.rpm 8f107a4ec7f977b0361a6d4cbb37e5e5d1f876b75be2a6da14df76d1a5ec6bff pacemaker-libs-devel-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.i686.rpm 551b658ad9739bd515d6dd88afc83af4f1dac144e86a7c5efae435503ac2c9e1 pacemaker-remote-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.i686.rpm x86_64: ac4da2ab731001a1c3e6b48e5845337e7c2582ad33c93a839d584ba192d04f22 pacemaker-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.x86_64.rpm 2a540f29a4d02ff0069f87aaf1adc67d181d57d66e341f6c924c790738d07ee1 pacemaker-cli-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.x86_64.rpm d720fd86c4c417b107da87936affe1d8aebc8ecf7a4ac404af9f9c5dd1ca51d8 pacemaker-cluster-libs-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.i686.rpm 7251bb4a55b28c4a179cdb9a0e1a619d64072e041c63a04192fff73e48bfae09 pacemaker-cluster-libs-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.x86_64.rpm 744a7540ee8b15c0079e13ac9501e6df0ca9fb5f813825c092f73e2224cea596 pacemaker-cts-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.x86_64.rpm d8037d7f57aaa35b56d135f6e8698dae7e9925c901ef4af77107c794dec745f9 pacemaker-doc-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.x86_64.rpm be4c50155e19555de591e147a72b31cdd60aa5cb43ddd971fc652bccf5e43ae0 pacemaker-libs-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.i686.rpm 332a6bec79c3cafe71c139762cfd254d45030cb3b81014c2ccde7fd4242f3172 pacemaker-libs-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.x86_64.rpm 8f107a4ec7f977b0361a6d4cbb37e5e5d1f876b75be2a6da14df76d1a5ec6bff pacemaker-libs-devel-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.i686.rpm 11ccf2b673b8327ff631650e5a72ebed8c7350a908557d82973e32338768200c pacemaker-libs-devel-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.x86_64.rpm e160b503305327ca9183a736f1d73a63c63272465ac19433bec99b69822f5430 pacemaker-remote-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.x86_64.rpm Source: 7948fdd88bb06c068cee755bd71b7b6eb2ec3625994ed6ae8fff5c2649f8755f pacemaker-1.1.10-1.el6_4.4.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 18:22:48 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2013:1491 CentOS 6 selinux-policy Update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20131101182248.GA60525(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2013:1491 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1491.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: a9e272f9da30e335f899aa8d1a423d25a0c1337b3500f9d4de02b1dcd6d14ac1 selinux-policy-3.7.19-195.el6_4.18.noarch.rpm 4ddb8cabb1093c81de01bd2c0a7ac9e9e1f3cda9e43f5ce57a47c653e2a54d71 selinux-policy-doc-3.7.19-195.el6_4.18.noarch.rpm 97f4991c5fcb674789eb3c08346cbfa0f551e0fbaa33c8a55cb1f21362d69884 selinux-policy-minimum-3.7.19-195.el6_4.18.noarch.rpm a9385a6ec9d9e23fa2b29e6424292378784c4c818959e91c438658a97dc28eaa selinux-policy-mls-3.7.19-195.el6_4.18.noarch.rpm 644e89042585d43b05fa2689ed90cd9a9e867705ce84f103ceb75d28daf51a45 selinux-policy-targeted-3.7.19-195.el6_4.18.noarch.rpm x86_64: a9e272f9da30e335f899aa8d1a423d25a0c1337b3500f9d4de02b1dcd6d14ac1 selinux-policy-3.7.19-195.el6_4.18.noarch.rpm 4ddb8cabb1093c81de01bd2c0a7ac9e9e1f3cda9e43f5ce57a47c653e2a54d71 selinux-policy-doc-3.7.19-195.el6_4.18.noarch.rpm 97f4991c5fcb674789eb3c08346cbfa0f551e0fbaa33c8a55cb1f21362d69884 selinux-policy-minimum-3.7.19-195.el6_4.18.noarch.rpm a9385a6ec9d9e23fa2b29e6424292378784c4c818959e91c438658a97dc28eaa selinux-policy-mls-3.7.19-195.el6_4.18.noarch.rpm 644e89042585d43b05fa2689ed90cd9a9e867705ce84f103ceb75d28daf51a45 selinux-policy-targeted-3.7.19-195.el6_4.18.noarch.rpm Source: 36ec53e4fd7c250c812873671ecf1cbdf538438c1d3329fee29a74c4ee4ad6c6 selinux-policy-3.7.19-195.el6_4.18.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 18:23:08 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEEA-2013:1494 CentOS 6 resource-agents Update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20131101182308.GA60608(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Enhancement Advisory 2013:1494 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2013-1494.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: eacb42661150d951f4d52de1e8ab656e5c661d1ca1227ade4876d81f8b9aa8d5 resource-agents-3.9.2-21.el6_4.8.i686.rpm 6c9e2eea366f661a767a1cc303c774cec99bd2338a6af46de6968277a82705fa resource-agents-sap-3.9.2-21.el6_4.8.i686.rpm x86_64: f5f72b37ad9655af5feaf3e2b0cd97a7e673027282edc23cfaa0ad6f554fe82e resource-agents-3.9.2-21.el6_4.8.x86_64.rpm b66c85fbeafc0fa4d508be8e3423d47ee799e4a6734f1a10f9c40a9ea49d7713 resource-agents-sap-3.9.2-21.el6_4.8.x86_64.rpm Source: db0df9b95cb603705fa6719e8690ce0eaf02b8cf6944e6002dd9271b1631aef8 resource-agents-3.9.2-21.el6_4.8.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce End of CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 105, Issue 2 ***********************************************

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Re: [CentOS] starting/stopping services
by Wes James 02 Nov '13

02 Nov '13

On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl(a)thelounge.net>wrote: > > > Am 01.11.2013 20:49, schrieb Wes James: > > > <snip> > > > > Thanks. But why do some commands require service service-name command > > (like sshd) where postfix works without the service command in front of > it? > > you still do not realize the difference between start/stop/restart > and enable/disable a service, they *all* behave identically > > some are enabled by default after install, some are not > __________________________________ > > service *whatever* start > service *whatever* restart > service *whatever* stop > > chkconfig *whatever* on > chkconfig *whatever* off > __________________________________ > > start/stop/restart acts *now* > on/off acts at boot > > please read some basic documentations! > > http://www.linuxmail.info/how-to-start-stop-services-centos-6/ > > https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux… > > I do understand that. But why can you do postfix stop/start but not sshd stop/start. With sshd you need to use service sshd stop/start. It seems inconsistent. -wes

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