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Re: [CentOS] Red Hat CEO: Go Ahead, Copy Our Software
by Les Mikesell 17 Aug '13

17 Aug '13

On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl(a)thelounge.net> wrote: > > wow - everybody but you understands the GPL Apparently not... > GPL == SOURCECODE No. It applies to everything copied/derived from/translated from (etc.) anything where any part is covered by GPL. Including binaries. > GPL == COPYRIGHT Yes, and without it, nothing gives you the right to distribute programs where any part is covered. > YOU FOOL RHEL IS NOT "THE WORK AS WHOLE" AND NOT UNDER GPL-ONLY Yes, I am only talking about the components where copyright law would consider it a copy or derivative of GPL code. And I didn't say otherwise. > nice that you removed all of my quotes about *source code* in the GPL They are irrelevant to the discussion of how binaries are equally covered by the 'no additional restrictions' section. The only place where source is different is that if you distribute binaries you are required to also provide matching sources. There is no mention of any exceptions to the requirement to permit redistribution for any covered work in any form. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell(a)gmail.com

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Re: [CentOS] minimal X applications needed to export to remote server?
by James B. Byrne 17 Aug '13

17 Aug '13

On Fri, August 16, 2013 12:07, Joseph Spenner wrote: > Â Thanks for the tip!Â Â xorg-x11-xauth got me closer!Â The xlogo > does show up! > However, when I run 'bat', I get the gui with a bunch of little > squares instead of fonts/text: > > http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/7935/62gh.png > > So, looks like I need some font stuff!Â Â Is there a package/RPM to > get all those? > > Thanks for the help.Â This is great! > > Regards, > Joseph Spenner > I find that I need these additional packages to run gui X-windows apps from remote systems. yum install xorg-x11-xauth dejavu-sans-fonts.noarch -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3

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CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 102, Issue 10
by centos-announce-request＠centos.org 17 Aug '13

17 Aug '13

Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to centos-announce(a)centos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-announce-request(a)centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-announce-owner(a)centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest..." Today's Topics: 1. CEBA-2013:1165 CentOS 6 busybox Update (Karanbir Singh) 2. CEBA-2013:1163 CentOS 6 cups Update (Karanbir Singh) 3. CEBA-2013:1162 CentOS 6 openswan Update (Karanbir Singh) 4. CEBA-2013:1159 CentOS 6 spice-gtk Update (Karanbir Singh) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 10:40:09 +0000 From: Karanbir Singh <kbsingh(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2013:1165 CentOS 6 busybox Update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20130817104009.GA41199(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2013:1165 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1165.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: 5cd60c4b0f49064e475e7600805b0b013ef08fc0037941b2bcc2d2fe76c36e59 busybox-1.15.1-16.el6_4.i686.rpm 9ca78349ef72a172300a116fabc1bf6f0ddf7ee1e0dfc72845b80ed167e5616d busybox-petitboot-1.15.1-16.el6_4.i686.rpm x86_64: 790438c19ef4228c9e1e259cae7052afdb17e007b4abd78326a0b5a095a0cd59 busybox-1.15.1-16.el6_4.x86_64.rpm f8732a07438648dadd1162137c03c3b19dee190173f1beff6ed391c6c37ca345 busybox-petitboot-1.15.1-16.el6_4.x86_64.rpm Source: 580e9713a754a2599ea0c3836f270c6e635148a1e30c97cac35c30a095f677f8 busybox-1.15.1-16.el6_4.src.rpm -- Karanbir Singh CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: z00dax, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 10:40:48 +0000 From: Karanbir Singh <kbsingh(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2013:1163 CentOS 6 cups Update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20130817104048.GA41500(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2013:1163 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1163.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: d86f63ac7a768f5c2f0797067211a646747ed218e264253dfcdce95d163bcb39 cups-1.4.2-50.el6_4.5.i686.rpm 92a37525317f8a7d23dced37d8e02341e703a3f3fa4c3b8a90d693e63743c7e5 cups-devel-1.4.2-50.el6_4.5.i686.rpm 14b82f9198a8acc9f8bd234e809d77d7861fe0ab8277aa1e06fae7bc02678741 cups-libs-1.4.2-50.el6_4.5.i686.rpm f92fc66f525b2ee115e3a42ac4afb11ac78b14bca962c5dbb8caf95631bd48a8 cups-lpd-1.4.2-50.el6_4.5.i686.rpm 5699cebd3642b304299778cc13af204000136a828fdae372a5f95af6c902b6e7 cups-php-1.4.2-50.el6_4.5.i686.rpm x86_64: 06273ced01e6e5e0f3126b9f1f45614e5e8455a3652f401930d6320925bc76f8 cups-1.4.2-50.el6_4.5.x86_64.rpm 92a37525317f8a7d23dced37d8e02341e703a3f3fa4c3b8a90d693e63743c7e5 cups-devel-1.4.2-50.el6_4.5.i686.rpm e77b596eaabc8b7961a20bd49df2312b8f39e6752e5486af5a73c9124142a87f cups-devel-1.4.2-50.el6_4.5.x86_64.rpm 14b82f9198a8acc9f8bd234e809d77d7861fe0ab8277aa1e06fae7bc02678741 cups-libs-1.4.2-50.el6_4.5.i686.rpm 50b3102887a5acd473188cf40dd36ff5907fa5aba846f489b2df360f758c4994 cups-libs-1.4.2-50.el6_4.5.x86_64.rpm e7870bb53bcd03a4fb974577123c870e0676d330446ae33ee8ea94a104a0edb9 cups-lpd-1.4.2-50.el6_4.5.x86_64.rpm a1ba788d388041cdb1ee5125becb1f4f07f004579b67b8703d22b844e8087595 cups-php-1.4.2-50.el6_4.5.x86_64.rpm Source: 27eae71ac5553ba298f2a03c2a629522146a39824437be45af9c2d1d2b85c824 cups-1.4.2-50.el6_4.5.src.rpm -- Karanbir Singh CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: z00dax, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 10:41:17 +0000 From: Karanbir Singh <kbsingh(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2013:1162 CentOS 6 openswan Update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20130817104117.GA41694(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2013:1162 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1162.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: 7646b8ef0ab623b46bd95ab373c73164836171396f82a9c0d4b5b0eb79814823 openswan-2.6.32-21.el6_4.i686.rpm 2e31b545998ea429f274f96034a13d355f8aaa4a741854fc7898d7ad1824d3ec openswan-doc-2.6.32-21.el6_4.i686.rpm x86_64: 94feba890a1a82b8e3f2a7b9dc89cc818c5fcbe58bec69c4c5c5351737f0df6d openswan-2.6.32-21.el6_4.x86_64.rpm 1b0f6bf8cb5c3fa0707e424dc9722ff50f091db979854e87ad4cd99d9f88270f openswan-doc-2.6.32-21.el6_4.x86_64.rpm Source: efc77d360d341cfa169ceed8d71fcbcc7c113fc2d65e47a6e688af92ac0e3b9e openswan-2.6.32-21.el6_4.src.rpm -- Karanbir Singh CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: z00dax, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 10:41:55 +0000 From: Karanbir Singh <kbsingh(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2013:1159 CentOS 6 spice-gtk Update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20130817104155.GA42042(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2013:1159 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2013-1159.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: 8d1079bab56eeedfe19cf4d835012f38a22f7069537facc0eb30054c4ec9c118 spice-glib-0.14-7.el6_4.1.i686.rpm 7ac6f6cab8fbeabc85a8abddc9ba86c7d9dc069741b40d214d38246c048f67cd spice-glib-devel-0.14-7.el6_4.1.i686.rpm b476f02eb6675e24612ce71f337edf57f12a2498576f910aac1f9e84197827bd spice-gtk-0.14-7.el6_4.1.i686.rpm cb6c9c9c2e85020689f3cf8b161a42e705d5d19478803ada0f35078934fb5150 spice-gtk-devel-0.14-7.el6_4.1.i686.rpm 448015b8af473a70ef32667c3835778973e70620dae6a0f62e482bbe26b2ba4c spice-gtk-python-0.14-7.el6_4.1.i686.rpm 80bfec2e9f3c2f5ee41c4fef381eb3b5767d10cb00705bddbaa39053a44b53a3 spice-gtk-tools-0.14-7.el6_4.1.i686.rpm x86_64: 8d1079bab56eeedfe19cf4d835012f38a22f7069537facc0eb30054c4ec9c118 spice-glib-0.14-7.el6_4.1.i686.rpm ed1606ac6a5a1e1e5493524bc12d100730072a90dabac61d04037f91fdfe81de spice-glib-0.14-7.el6_4.1.x86_64.rpm 7ac6f6cab8fbeabc85a8abddc9ba86c7d9dc069741b40d214d38246c048f67cd spice-glib-devel-0.14-7.el6_4.1.i686.rpm c5e4bd319687a905e6b4fff374bd0f67253a796ecab1d9a5253bda405ff2a975 spice-glib-devel-0.14-7.el6_4.1.x86_64.rpm b476f02eb6675e24612ce71f337edf57f12a2498576f910aac1f9e84197827bd spice-gtk-0.14-7.el6_4.1.i686.rpm 8e719764a76f10320fc712e42426b4326f852d7e8845d8721ba9394876ad4429 spice-gtk-0.14-7.el6_4.1.x86_64.rpm cb6c9c9c2e85020689f3cf8b161a42e705d5d19478803ada0f35078934fb5150 spice-gtk-devel-0.14-7.el6_4.1.i686.rpm 3445431e5768846fba3574a52fbfa434c860458d56945e8dcfa46988a33cd25e spice-gtk-devel-0.14-7.el6_4.1.x86_64.rpm 7562efe13c26dd06a83aa37fb1d3e04d1add386aff6252e49e4fdcc5b5583bae spice-gtk-python-0.14-7.el6_4.1.x86_64.rpm aae85e755fefe56f34bcd392bfd6d72cb8435651a5d3228d602f7a1c92cee5ee spice-gtk-tools-0.14-7.el6_4.1.x86_64.rpm Source: 525ef40db48273840a8218f0552438f5fc357573ceed3b9341b1b37db23e56ec spice-gtk-0.14-7.el6_4.1.src.rpm -- Karanbir Singh CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: z00dax, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce End of CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 102, Issue 10 ************************************************

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Restoring deleted files.
by Ahmed 17 Aug '13

17 Aug '13

Hi, is it possible to Restore files deleted with " rm rf " from ext4 or ext3 filesystem by mistake. Regards Ahmad

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Re: [CentOS] Red Hat CEO: Go Ahead, Copy Our Software
by Les Mikesell 16 Aug '13

16 Aug '13

On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl(a)thelounge.net> wrote: > >> Exactly my point. Everything is about derived works. So binaries >> cannot be exempt from the requirement that the work as a whole can >> only be distributed under a license that permits free redistribution >> and that additional restrictions cannot be added > > *which restrictions from your fantasy are you talking about?* I'm talking about the consequences Red Hat applies if you were to exercise the right that the GPL says you have to redistribute copies. If the threat of such consequences aren't a restriction, what would be? I realize that Red Hat does, in fact do more than required in other areas so this is just a philosophical point, but I don't see how their treatment of binaries meshes with the letter of the GPL. I also realize that since CentOS and other derivative distros rely on the 'more than required' parts (non-GPL'd parts, source in easily reusable form, etc.), it could all go away on a whim, just like the freely redistributable binaries did, so even if you are happy with today's scenario, there's no reason to expect it to last. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell(a)gmail.com

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Re: [CentOS] Restoring deleted files.
by Johan Vermeulen 16 Aug '13

16 Aug '13

Hello, I think the commandline filemanager can reunite you with deleted files. Greetings, j. Clive Hills <discordianuk(a)gmail.com>schreef: >There's also PhotoRec included in the testdisk package. > > >Clive > > >On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Joseph Spenner <joseph85750(a)yahoo.com>wrote: > >> >From: Ahmed <ahmed.daud500(a)gmail.com> >> >> >To: CentOS mailing list <centos(a)centos.org> >> >Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 9:44 AM >> >Subject: [CentOS] Restoring deleted files. >> >> > >> >Hi, >> > >> > is it possible to Restore files deleted with " rm rf " from ext4 or >> > ext3 filesystem by mistake. >> >> There is something called lazarus: >> >> http://www.fish2.com/tct/help-recovering-file >> >> Make backups! I recommend bacula. :) >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> If life gives you lemons, keep them-- because hey.. free lemons. >> "♥ Sticker" fixer: http://microflush.org/stuff/stickers/heartFix.html >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS(a)centos.org >> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> > > > >-- >Clive > -- 077222971491 >_______________________________________________ >CentOS mailing list >CentOS(a)centos.org >http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

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Re: [CentOS] Red Hat CEO: Go Ahead, Copy Our Software
by Les Mikesell 16 Aug '13

16 Aug '13

On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl(a)thelounge.net> wrote: > >> Sorry, but that quote does not appear in any copy of the GPL that I >> can find. And it's not true, either. Everything it says is about >> 'works as a whole' and anything that can be considered a copy or >> derivative work under copyright law > > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html > > and now *show me* the word *binary* or *binaries* in any paragraph And that is exactly the point. They are not considered differently in terms of restrictions you can apply or adding to 'works as a whole' in copyright terms. If the distribution of any part of a work is only permitted by the GPL and you don't follow the GPL terms (say, by adding restrictions of your own), you would not be permitted to distribute at all. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell(a)gmail.com

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Re: [CentOS] Red Hat CEO: Go Ahead, Copy Our Software
by Les Mikesell 16 Aug '13

16 Aug '13

On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl(a)thelounge.net> wrote: > >>> redistribution of SOURCE. have you READ the GPL ? >> >> Please quote the section that you think exempts binaries > > *THE WHOLE GPL TALKS ABOUT SOURCE CODE DAMNED* > *THE WHOLE GPL TALKS ABOUT SOURCE CODE DAMNED* > *THE WHOLE GPL TALKS ABOUT SOURCE CODE DAMNED* Sorry, but that quote does not appear in any copy of the GPL that I can find. And it's not true, either. Everything it says is about 'works as a whole' and anything that can be considered a copy or derivative work under copyright law. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell(a)gmail.com

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Re: [CentOS] Red Hat CEO: Go Ahead, Copy Our Software
by Les Mikesell 16 Aug '13

16 Aug '13

On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl(a)thelounge.net> wrote: >>> >> So which section of the GPL is it that exempts binaries from being >> considered derived works with the same requiremnets? > > OK you are really that stupid > > the GPL doe snot talk about binaries at all Exactly my point. Everything is about derived works. So binaries cannot be exempt from the requirement that the work as a whole can only be distributed under a license that permits free redistribution and that additional restrictions cannot be added. If you want to refute that, please quote the section stating what you think permits it. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell(a)gmail.com

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Re: [CentOS] Red Hat CEO: Go Ahead, Copy Our Software
by Les Mikesell 16 Aug '13

16 Aug '13

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl(a)thelounge.net> wrote: > >> So, what about redistribution of copies? > > learn the difference between trademarks and software licences So, if you have a license that says "the distribution of the whole must be on the terms of this License," and " You may not impose any further restrictions on the recipients' exercise of the rights granted herein", it really means that you can add something that adds restrictions. >> I could use debian, but then I'd have to learn to type apt-get instead >> of rpm. I'd prefer to continue using the commands that Red Hat >> baited us with > > so learn it or shut up with your Redhat hate for no reason I have my reason. You don't have to like it. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell(a)gmail.com

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