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[Hardware] Good Server I/O on-the-cheap: ASL Monarch 811x with CentOS 4.2 ...
by Bryan J. Smith 24 Nov '05

24 Nov '05

Since good server designs have come up in the past, I wanted to point out a "low-cost" server option that has good I/O, and the vendor offers _your_choice_ of not only Fedora Core or Red Hat Enterprise Linux, but _also_ CentOS _shipped_ with it! IN-A-NUTSHELL ... Starting at just over $750, you can get a single Socket-939 Opteron 1xx (dual-core is an option) system with up to 4GiB of ECC (but non- registered) DDR SDRAM, up to 4 hot-swap SATA bays (8114 model), one PCI- X slot (perfect for a 3Ware card, which they _do_ support ;-) and dual on-board GbE Broadcom NICs -- all in a 1U rackmount form-factor. The resulting I/O performance is excellent at the price-point for those that want a good server I/O well beyond typical "desktop/workstation" but for around the same price. The 4 hot-swap drive configuration, with a decent amount of RAM, 3Ware card with the 4 drives in RAID-10 or 5, and, most importantly, with CentOS 4.2 shipped runs just a little over $2K. Not really much more than an equivalent "self-assembled desktop" you might be able to put together, while being a heck of a lot better in interconnect configuration and resulting server performance. ASL Monarch 8110/8114/8115 (Left Column): http://www.aslab.com/products/storage/monarch.html NOW THE TECHNOBABLE I'M INFAMOUS FOR ... ASL Monarch Series, 811x with ServerWorks HT1000 Chipset I haven't purchased anything from ASL in years, but back when I was working in the semiconductor industry, the sysadmin at Transmeta turned me on to them. The really know their hardware and Linux compatibility, and they have been shipping products with 3Ware for years. They are now shipping their Monarch 811x series of products (not to be confused with a _separate_ vendor called Monarch Computer Systems ;-) with the Broadcom ServerWorks HT1000 chipset: http://www.broadcom.com/products/Enterprise-Small-Office/SystemI-O-Chips/HT… The ServerWorks HT1000 is rarely found without the HT2000, hence why you typically only find them in dual or quad socket boxen. And that combination competes against serverboards with the AMD8131/8132, which are also typically only found in dual or quad socket boxen. The number of channels, traces, etc... is why it's never cost-effective to make a single processor with an AMD8131. But in the case of the single chip HT1000 on its own -- with dual-GbE NICs and a single PCI-X channel, plusall legacy PC peripherals logic necessary, it _was_ designed to be standalone. So if I had to guess from the specs, the mainboard is the SuperMicro H8SSL-i (although I have not confirmed it): http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron/HT1000/H8SSL-i.cfm The H8SSL-i is _not_ available via retail channels, only select OEMs. So you can't just go out and buy it. Unless you just want a 2 SATA drive version (the 8110 or 14" shallow 8115), the 8114 offers up to 4 SATA hot-swap bays in a sub-20" deep 1U rackmount: http://www.aslab.com/products/storage/monarch8114.html They seem to be supporting the latest 3Ware Escalade 9550SX, which it too new to trust IMHO. But if they feel differently, I'd trust them. At the same time, it wouldn't surprise me if they'd sell it with a Escalade 8506 series instead -- which I do trust (especially since with only 4 drives, I'd probably create a RAID-10 volume), and only default to the 9550SX because most customers want RAID-5. -- Bryan J. Smith b.j.smith(a)ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- For everything else *COUGH*commercials*COUGH* there's "ManningCard"

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dual head on laptop
by Jerry Geis 24 Nov '05

24 Nov '05

I am trying to use the system-config-display utility to setup a laptop for dual-heal. I want my LCD to be 1024x768 and external VGA to be 1366x768. I presume the LCD will go virtual or something to match the 1366x768 which is fine. When I am setting up the dual head and click OK nothing happens??? On the console I have something about secondVideoCardOptionMenu.get_menu().get_active().get_data("NAME") attribute error. There is no second video card in a laptop???? How do setup the VGA port to be different than the LCD? Thanks, jerry

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Desktop media apps query
by Sanjay Arora 24 Nov '05

24 Nov '05

Want to support the following apps on some of our centos 4.2 desktops. Are yum-installable binaries/rpms available for CentOS 4.2 and which repository? MP3 player Macromedia Flash/Shockwave MPlayer Media Player RealPlayer 10 Media Player Java J2RE and Mozilla Plug-in MS TrueType fonts With regards. Sanjay.

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New XFS Code for CentOS-4
by Johnny Hughes 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

All, I just submitting this information to the CentOS-Devel list. I want to also include it here in case there are people who want to use XFS on the standard CentOS kernel. DO NOT EXPECT THIS TO BE PRODUCTION GRADE :) ... it is a TESTING release (For those of you who are tracking beta code ... this is pre-beta, and use at your own risk) If it breaks, you get to keep all the pieces because I don't want any of them. http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2005-November/000926.html PS ... I won't listen to any complaints that this code broke anything ... please be forewarned. -------- Johnny Hughes

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only root can use xwindows
by Roger D Vargas 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

After testing runlevel 5 i noticed that I cant switch to text consoles. So I went back to runlevel 3, but now normal users cant use graphic environment. I just got a black screen and an error message: Xlib: connection refused by server, Protocol unsupported by server root can start xfce normally. Any idea about whats happenning? -- Roger D. Vargas http://dsgp.blogspot.com | Linux, programación, juegos ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo! Nuevos servicios, más seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es

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Re: [CentOS] SOLVED [was Re: latex writer in gnome?]
by C.M. Connelly 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

"RB" == Rodrigo Barbosa <rodrigob(a)suespammers.org> RB> I know I should not say this, but I find VIM with syntax RB> highlightening a parted latex editor. I now have to mention Emacs with AucTeX. ;-) I generally grab the latest AucTeX SRPM from Fedora Core (i.e., from Rawhide) and build it locally. Or else get the real source [0] and build that. The latest and greatest AucTeX incorporates preview-latex, which ``typesets'' some mathematical stuff for you and displays it in your document. I'm not that excited by that behavior, but you might like it. I also install Kile, a full-blown GUI editor, for folks here to use. It's a KDE program and is a lot like WinEDT. Kile seems to be reasonably nice if you like that sort of thing. Dag has RPMs. Claire [0] http://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/download.html -- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Claire Connelly cmc(a)math.hmc.edu Systems Administrator (909) 621-8754 Department of Mathematics Harvey Mudd College *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

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Re: [CentOS] GDM problem
by Jack Bailey 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

Here's another data point regarding the GDM problem I'm having. Once again, I get this on the console: There was an error loading the theme Default Couldn't recognize the image file format for file '/usr/share/gdm/themes/Default/background.png' Yesterday I needed to edit some graphics I had done for a job. I use gimp. Now gimp tells me: Image type 'png' is not supported Soooo ... the problem appears to be with png support and not with GDM at all. Jim asked me to run "rpm -Vv gdm" which produced: [snip] prelink: /usr/bin/gdmXnestchooser: at least one of file's dependencies has changed since prelinking S.?..... /usr/bin/gdmXnestchooser prelink: /usr/bin/gdmchooser: at least one of file's dependencies has changed since prelinking S.?..... /usr/bin/gdmchooser prelink: /usr/bin/gdmflexiserver: at least one of file's dependencies has changed since prelinking S.?..... /usr/bin/gdmflexiserver prelink: /usr/bin/gdmgreeter: at least one of file's dependencies has changed since prelinking S.?..... /usr/bin/gdmgreeter prelink: /usr/bin/gdmlogin: at least one of file's dependencies has changed since prelinking S.?..... /usr/bin/gdmlogin prelink: /usr/bin/gdmphotosetup: at least one of file's dependencies has changed since prelinking S.?..... /usr/bin/gdmphotosetup [snip] prelink: /usr/sbin/gdmsetup: at least one of file's dependencies has changed since prelinking S.?..... /usr/sbin/gdmsetup [snip] This also points to something else. What that is I don't know. I don't change system stuff. Jack

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Bonding in CentOS3 vs. CentOS4
by Robin Mordasiewicz 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

I am able to bring up a bonded NIC in Centos4 without requiring to bring up the bond0 with an ip address, but with CentOS-3 I must assign the NIC an address or eth0 and eth1 will not slave. I need to bring bond0 up without an ip address becuase I will be using tagged VLANs. ie. <snip /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-bond0> DEVICE=bond0 BOOTPROTO=none ONBOOT=yes IPADDR=169.254.0.1 USERCTL=no </snip> I can later manually do something like the following from a post network script, but I am wondering why this is different in CentOS-4. ifconfig bond0 0.0.0.0 ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0 ifconfig eth1 0.0.0.0 if I change the ifcfg-bond0 to not have an ip address. ie. <snip /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-bond0> DEVICE=bond0 BOOTPROTO=none ONBOOT=yes #IPADDR=169.254.0.1 USERCTL=no </snip> Then when I restart the network neither eth0 or eth1 are enslaved.

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SOLVED [was Re: latex writer in gnome?]
by Sharon Kimble 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

On 11/22/05, Sharon Kimble <sharon04(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Does anybody know the gnome program that you can write in latex with please? > > I'm not sure but I think its in the base repo. Its not winefish as it > (winefish) doesn't compile the source text like the program that I'm looking > > for does. > > Hopefully thanks > Sharon. > -- I am currently using a combination of emacs-auctex and winefish, with the occasional usage of kile. After a bit of experimentation I've found the program, its 'texmaker' from kbs-CentOS-Extra. Thanks everyone for your comments :) Sharon.

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Message-ID Threading w/Subject Append Example -- WAS: pine rpm for centos 4
by James B. Byrne 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:29:00 -0500 (EST), Joshua Baker-LePain <jlb17(a)duke.edu> wrote: > I'm sorry, but making decisions based on Stupid User Tricks is about > the worst policy I can imagine. That way lies madness. No, where lies madness is in the self-centred way in which some people make demands of others to alter innocuous behaviour so that the data requirements of some MUA or other, that may or may not support generally accepted conventions , that may or may not be suitably configured, might be satisfied. I read mailing lists as digests. Message threading is of no use to me outside of threaded web archives, that I seldom use in such fashion. Neither is the subject content of much significance beyond keying me as to whether some section of a digest may be of particular interest. This is not to say that these features have no value, only that my circumstances realize little any from them. However, I have been taken to task nonetheless, because my personal preferences do not meet with the approval of some. It is this presumption that irritates me. I am not a member of this list simply to ease the administrative burdens that some people create for themselves. I seek information and informed opinion on technical issues related to the equipment I am responsible for and the vocation I profess, not quasi-religious debates on the morality of certain widely held but hardly universal conventions. I sometimes (rarely) am in the possession of a piece of information that may prove helpful to another, and so I offer on occasion. However, in the main this list is my way of reaching beyond my own ignorance. Usually I am in the position of supplicant and I have found the people on this list generally as helpful and usually as well informed as other lists that I frequent. But I am concerned about the general tenor of some of the discussions here and how these may lead to ill-feeling in some and a disinclination to actively participate in others. We are all infinitely ignorant, it is just that some of us possess a predisposition to stay within that which we find familiar and others find it easier to take adventures. Neither tendency is good or bad, they are just personal preferences. It would be more comfortable for the list membership, and improve the decorum of the messages considerably, if people from one camp or the other, and the many of us that straddle both albeit on different issues, displayed a willingness to accommodate the other side and recognize that there are many important reasons, not all of which we may agree with, why someone chooses to do things a certain way. Complaining about people's email habits, particularly in public, where the content is not the issue strikes me as pointless, self- indulgent in the extreme, and reflects most poorly on the personality of the complainant. Sincerely, Jim -- *** e-mail is not a secure channel *** mailto:byrnejb.<token>@harte-lyne.ca James B. Byrne Harte & Lyne Limited vox: +1 905 561 1241 9 Brockley Drive fax: +1 905 561 0757 Hamilton, Ontario <token> = hal Canada L8E 3C3

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HSBC Banking
by Rob 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

Hi, This is a long shot, but does anyone have HSBC Internet banking working with Centos-4? Various fragments on other lists suggests that it works with Konqueror but not for me. :-( Thanks Rob

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Scsi drive monitor
by Jon 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

Hello Has anyone successfully loaded a disk monitoring tool for a HP lp100r, running centos 3.6, in a raid 5 configuration, created using the HP 1M raid card? The old Top Tools from HP no longer work with this kernel version. Thanks Jon ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

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RHEL3 --> CentOS3 HP proliant 380
by Peter van Eck 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

Hi, I've got a HP 380 G2 which is running RHEL AS 3 Taroon update 1. The current smp kernel 2.4.21-9smp is booting with a HPinitrd image. Mostlikely generated with the HP proliant Service Pack for RHEL 3. Now if I migrate this system to CentOS 3 and a new kernel will be installed ,will that work ? Does the new centOS kernel use the same config as the current RHEL kernel ? Anyone done this before ? I don't have access to the console so can't take too much risk here.. thanks, Peter

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RE: [CentOS] x windows dell inspiron 1200 setting for 1366x768
by Plant, Dean 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

Jerry Geis wrote: >> I had a similar problem trying to set 1400x1050 on a Siemens Fujitsu >> Laptop. The fix for me, was to use 915 resolution from >> http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/ as it seems the Intel video bios >> has a limited set of resolution modes > >> Hope this helps > >> Dean > > Dean, > > THanks I have 1 question. on centso 4.2 X starts real early... > Where do you run the 915resolution command? I put it in > rc.local and it did not seem to work. > > THanks, > > Jerry That's where I put it and it worked fine. I tested first by booting to run level 3 running "915resolution 4b 1400 1050" and then started X. This worked so I just added the same command to rc.local. The desktop now boots by default to 1400x1050 in run level 5. My tests were on Siemens Fujitsu Laptop E8020D with Centos 3.6 and I had to replace XFree86 with the latest development version before using 915resolution as I could not get X to display anything other than a black screen, even with the vesa driver. Dean.

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how does one default a laptop to use the external monitor not the LCD
by Jerry Geis 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

I have a dell 1200 laptop. How do I tell X to use the external VGA port by default and not the LCD? I have looked in the bios and there is nothing. Jerry

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Problem when booting CentOS on ALpha Server.
by israel.garcia＠cimex.com.cu 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

List, I've just installed CentOS 4.2 (alpha) on a ES40, 4 processor 833 MHz, 2 GB ram and when I rebooted the server it simple didn't boot... Any ideas of my problem? Regards; Israel

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server exercising, stressing, and/or testing
by Robert 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

greetings would someone please point me to an excellent server exercising, stressing, and/or testing program that will run on centos 4? i want one that will not out and out destroy a machine so to speak... ...meaning testing is one thing, yet pounding a box in the hard drive department over and above the cause or unnecessarily does not appeal to me. fyi the box i want to test/stress this time is a compaq dl380 with 2 gig ram and 4 drives in raid5 for simple internet services thanks and kind regards, - rh -- Robert Hanson - Abba Communications Computer & Internet Services (509) 624-7159 - www.abbacomm.net

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RE: [CentOS] Re: server exercising, stressing, and/or testing
by Brian T. Brunner 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

The Mersenne project has a TortureTest mode that has helped me find how far I can overclock CPU or RAM without running into errors. It runs massive calculations and compares the results with pre-known values. If this is run while a disk I/O and graphics test run, the collision problems between these memory users can be (hopefully) caught without regard to whether you overclock or not. See: http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm Brian Brunner brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com (610)796-5838 >>> jlb17(a)duke.edu 11/22/05 02:34PM >>> On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 at 11:30am, Robert wrote > } It might be useful if you specify what aspects of the box you want to > } test. > } > } CPU? RAM? Disk? > } > } You mentioned disk, but is that all that you want to test? > } > } Regards, > } Greg > > i wish to test it all, everything, just not ummm extremely violently in > terms of hard drive(s). > > so, if the hard drive testing part is ultimately configurable that would be > great... i just dont feel like pounding the drives for hours and hours > > ummmmmmmmmm what are people using in this area? > > i am familiar with memtest and some of the other small stuff yet i am > looking for practical list wisdom on this whole scenartio. > > thanks! I've actually had pretty good luck with this little script: http://people.redhat.com/dledford/memtest.html It's not *too* hard on the disks, although that part isn't configurable. -- Joshua Baker-LePain Department of Biomedical Engineering Duke University _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated

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Smartctl & SATA
by Hoy, Mark 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

I've just installed my first system with a SATA drive and I've noticed that smartctl isn't supported under libata According to the smartmontools home page, SATA will require a patch that is still in development. http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6983#comment-126714 "The patch is still under development and it is probably best to make sure that the disk is idle before trying smartmontools." Isn't a glowing endorsement, besides the system only has 1 hard drive. Under CentOS 4.1 # rpm -qa | grep kernel kernel-2.6.9-5.0.3.EL kernel-utils-2.4-13.1.48 I also tried the CentOS 4.2 kernel (and kernel-utils) with similar results. # rpm -qa | grep kernel kernel-2.6.9-22.EL kernel-utils-2.4-13.1.69 Thanks, Mark

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latex writer in gnome?
by Sharon Kimble 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

Does anybody know the gnome program that you can write in latex with please? I'm not sure but I think its in the base repo. Its not winefish as it (winefish) doesn't compile the source text like the program that I'm looking for does. Hopefully thanks Sharon. -- 16:41:46 up 1 day, 16:56, 2 users, load average: 1.54, 1.45, 1.51 A taste of linux http://www.sharons.org.uk/taste/index.html efever http://www.efever.blogspot.com/ Centos 4.2, KDE 3.4.3-1.0, OpenOffice 2.0 Registered Linux user 334501

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x windows dell inspiron 1200 setting for 1366x768
by Jerry Geis 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

>I had a similar problem trying to set 1400x1050 on a Siemens Fujitsu > Laptop. The fix for me, was to use 915 resolution from >http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/ as it seems the Intel video bios has >a limited set of resolution modes >Hope this helps >Dean Dean, THanks I have 1 question. on centso 4.2 X starts real early... Where do you run the 915resolution command? I put it in rc.local and it did not seem to work. THanks, Jerry

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RE: [CentOS] x windows dell inspiron 1200 setting for 1366x768
by Plant, Dean 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

Jerry Geis wrote: > I am attempting to setup a dell inspirons 1200 laptop > media accelerator 900 from intel is the chipset so I am using the i810 > driver. > In the default 1024x768 everything is fine. > > I am trying to setup the external port not the LCD to be 1366x768. > I added a modeline to xorg.conf of: > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "Monitor Vendor" > ModelName "LCD Panel 1600x1200" > HorizSync 31.5 - 90.0 > VertRefresh 60.0 - 60.0 > ModeLine "1024x768" 65.0 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 > 806 -hsync -vsync > ModeLine "1024x768" 54.2 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 > 806 -hsync -vsync > ModeLine "1366x768" 85.5 1366 1494 1624 1798 768 770 776 > 795 -hsync +vsync > Option "dpms" > EndSection > > There is a line in the log file of: > (II) I810(0): Monitor0: Using hsync range of 31.00-70.00 kHz > (II) I810(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-85.00 Hz > (II) I810(0): Not using mode "1366x768" (no mode of this name) > (II) I810(0): Not using built-in mode "1600x1200" (width too large for > virtual size) > (II) I810(0): Not using built-in mode "1280x1024" (width too large for > virtual size) > (1366x768,Monitor0) mode clock 100000MHz exceeds DDC maximum 110MHz > (1600x1200,Monitor0) mode clock 162MHz exceeds DDC maximum 110MHz > (II) I810(0): 6632 kBytes additional video memory is required to > > I looked at the specs of the media 900 and it does something like > 25XXx10XX > > What am I not setting up correctly to see the 1366x768? > > THanks so much, > > Jerry I had a similar problem trying to set 1400x1050 on a Siemens Fujitsu Laptop. The fix for me, was to use 915 resolution from http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/ as it seems the Intel video bios has a limited set of resolution modes Hope this helps Dean

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pine rpm for centos 4
by Roger D Vargas 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

There is some pine rpm for release 4? Im too used to it and I dont like mutt. -- Roger D. Vargas http://dsgp.blogspot.com | Linux, programación, juegos ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo! Nuevos servicios, más seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es

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cant swith to text mode consoles
by Roger D Vargas 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

After installing xfce I switched to runlevel 5 to have a graphic login. But The login box (and xfce) doesnt let me switch to text consoles with ctrl+alt+F key. Also, xfce is the desktop for root, but for normal user still is an ugly windows manager. -- Roger D. Vargas http://dsgp.blogspot.com | Linux, programación, juegos ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo! Nuevos servicios, más seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Message-ID Threading w/Subject Append Example --WAS: pine rpm for centos 4
by Brian T. Brunner 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

Brian Brunner brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com (610)796-5838 >>> jlb17(a)duke.edu 11/22/05 11:29AM >>> \begin{sotto voce} I can't believe I'm jumping into a thread like this. \end{sotto voce} ***I can. On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 at 10:23am, Les Mikesell wrote > On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 09:52, Bryan J. Smith wrote: >>> Not all mail/news readers track exclusevly via Message-ID, >>> References and In-Reply-To headers. >> >> So in other words, they decide to snub decades of Internet >> standards. > > They are realistic about people's use of email. They hit > reply/reply-all to reply to the sender/group, not necessarily > to the content of the previous message, and they change > the subject line when it isn't relevant and they are changing Ah, so we ignore established standards based on users' stupidity. Good idea. *** The World Famous "Are You Sure" could/should ask these SU's, ***when the change the subject line in any way, whether they intend ***to make a new thread of just change the subject in the current thread. > the topic. Please resume this argument when you have taught > the rest of the world the value of the headers they can't Threading that *works* is the value that users would notice. ***Threading that *works* is the value that users would notice. > see and some way to get the address list from a message > without making an irrelevant In-Repy-To:. Yeah, because address books are *so* hard to use. I'm sorry, but making decisions based on Stupid User Tricks is about the worst policy I can imagine. That way lies madness. ***Or worse, imitates the Congress of the United States. *** My vote's with Bryan & Joshua... if only it counted... ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated

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32 bits software on 64 bits CentOS core
by Alex Yuner 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

Hello to everybody, it´s possible run 32 bits program on a 64 bits CentOS core?? --------------------------------- Correo Yahoo! Comprueba qué es nuevo, aquí http://correo.yahoo.es

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x windows dell inspiron 1200 setting for 1366x768
by Jerry Geis 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

I am attempting to setup a dell inspirons 1200 laptop media accelerator 900 from intel is the chipset so I am using the i810 driver. In the default 1024x768 everything is fine. I am trying to setup the external port not the LCD to be 1366x768. I added a modeline to xorg.conf of: Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "LCD Panel 1600x1200" HorizSync 31.5 - 90.0 VertRefresh 60.0 - 60.0 ModeLine "1024x768" 65.0 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync ModeLine "1024x768" 54.2 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync ModeLine "1366x768" 85.5 1366 1494 1624 1798 768 770 776 795 -hsync +vsync Option "dpms" EndSection There is a line in the log file of: (II) I810(0): Monitor0: Using hsync range of 31.00-70.00 kHz (II) I810(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-85.00 Hz (II) I810(0): Not using mode "1366x768" (no mode of this name) (II) I810(0): Not using built-in mode "1600x1200" (width too large for virtual size) (II) I810(0): Not using built-in mode "1280x1024" (width too large for virtual size) (1366x768,Monitor0) mode clock 100000MHz exceeds DDC maximum 110MHz (1600x1200,Monitor0) mode clock 162MHz exceeds DDC maximum 110MHz (II) I810(0): 6632 kBytes additional video memory is required to I looked at the specs of the media 900 and it does something like 25XXx10XX What am I not setting up correctly to see the 1366x768? THanks so much, Jerry

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using xfce
by Roger D Vargas 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

I had to make a minimal install and now Im installing some packages I need. I decided to use xfce as desktop, but after install, I cant find a way to set is as preferred desktop environment. I try switchdesk xfce, but it says xfce is not installed. How can I set it? -- Roger D. Vargas http://dsgp.blogspot.com | Linux, programación, juegos ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo! Nuevos servicios, más seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es

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Bad disk?
by Morten 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

Hi, I get the below from dmesg. The server seems to run fine, but it does worry me. What should I do? Other than take a backup.. :-) hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x21 hda: DMA timeout error hda: dma timeout error: status=0xd0 { Busy } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x21 hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=11242764, high=0, low=11242764, sector=11242760 ide: failed opcode was: unknown end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 11242760 hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=11435969, high=0, low=11435969, sector=11435968 ide: failed opcode was: unknown end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 11435968 hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=11277069, high=0, low=11277069, sector=11277064 ide: failed opcode was: unknown end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 11277064 hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=11277069, high=0, low=11277069, sector=11277064 ide: failed opcode was: unknown end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 11277064 hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=11277069, high=0, low=11277069, sector=11277064 ide: failed opcode was: unknown end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 11277064 hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=11277069, high=0, low=11277069, sector=11277064 ide: failed opcode was: unknown end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 11277064 hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=11277069, high=0, low=11277069, sector=11277064 ide: failed opcode was: unknown end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 11277064 hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=11435269, high=0, low=11435269, sector=11435264 ide: failed opcode was: unknown end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 11435264 hda: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x21 hda: DMA timeout error hda: dma timeout error: status=0xd0 { Busy } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: DMA disabled ide0: reset: success hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } ide: failed opcode was: unknown ide0: reset: success hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } ide: failed opcode was: unknown ide0: reset: success hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } ide: failed opcode was: unknown end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 31873944 hda: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } ide: failed opcode was: unknown hda: DMA disabled hda: drive not ready for command ide0: reset: success

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Vsftpd + ssl
by Thomas E Dukes 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

Hello, Does anyone have this working? I have been looking for a couple of hours trying to find docs on how to set this up and so far the only thing I have found is how to enable ssl in vsftpd.conf. TIA

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x windows setting up laptop external monitor atdifferent resolution than LCD
by Jerry Geis 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

On 11/22/05, Jerry Geis <geisj at pagestation.com <http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos>> wrote: >/ I need to setup my laptop external monitor at 1366x768 while my />/ LCD is only 1024x768. Is this done by dual head selections in the />/ display configuration? / Setting up dual head machine. You can view an artcile on this at www.pcquest.com they carried this a few months back and you can search the archives from the search box. HTH and please report back success. -- Sudev Barar Learning Linux --- I was looking at dual head under the display settings menu - however, when I select my settings and click OK - NOTHING HAPPENS. The screen stays there and does not go away. Jerry

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x windows setting up laptop external monitor at different resolution than LCD
by Jerry Geis 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

I need to setup my laptop external monitor at 1366x768 while my LCD is only 1024x768. Is this done by dual head selections in the display configuration? How is that accomplished? Thanks, Jerry

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Re: [CentOS] SELinux threads, cynicism, one-upmanship, etc.
by Brian T. Brunner 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

Thanks, Mike. What I read is that SELinux is still 'beta', and while the need for good security is decades old, we (CentOS/RHEL folks) should not be presumed to be willing beta testers. "Enabled by default" presumes I'm willing. Brian Brunner brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com (610)796-5838 >>> lesmikesell(a)gmail.com 11/19/05 11:41AM >>> On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 22:42, Lamar Owen wrote: > Maybe I'm wrong, but I think any admin needs to experience having their box > cracked. It will produce the humbleness necessary to the trade, because > overconfidence is dangerous. Yes, but when the box gets cracked _because_ they are using the latest new thing their distribution added under the guise of increased security, as happened with ssh a while back, it also produces the attitude that new stuff should soak a long, long while in a distribution like fedora before going onto production boxes. You want to at least wait until the surprises stop - and I take the flurry of reports of broken apps at every update as an indication that they haven't stopped yet. Your analogy to a weapon was a good one. When the experts tuning the distribution still can't keep it from blowing up in peoples's faces some of the time, normal people should keep their distance. When the fedora and Centos lists go several months without a mysterious app failure caused by SELinux it will be time to reconsider. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell(a)gmail.com _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated

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Ssh with OS X Tiger (Darwin) and CentOS 4.2
by Ryan Lum 22 Nov '05

22 Nov '05

Anyone know any issue with OS X 10.4 and CentOS with ssh or any connectivity issue with: OpenSSH_3.8.1p1 vs OpenSSH_3.9p1?

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problem with yum
by Roger D Vargas 21 Nov '05

21 Nov '05

I installed centos 4.2 but I cant get yum working, i always get a timeout error with repodata/primary.xml.gz from base. How can i solve this? -- Roger D. Vargas http://dsgp.blogspot.com | Linux, programación, juegos ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo! Nuevos servicios, más seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es

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Request suggestion for Enterprise Fax Server for CentOS 4.2
by Sanjay Arora 21 Nov '05

21 Nov '05

List: Please suggest fax server software for Corporate use with CentOS...requirements...centralized, multiple modems, if required, scriptable for pre/post fax actions with perl/shell scripts, if possible compatible for faxing from open office and maybe M$ Windoz. Most necessary open source, free, being actively maintained & active mailing list. Best regards. Sanjay.

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CentOS 4.2 iscsi-initiator-utils mounting NetAPP problem
by Robin Mordasiewicz 21 Nov '05

21 Nov '05

I can successfully mount my NetApp with the iscsi-initiator-utils provided with CentOS-3.x, but with the same configuration I cannot see any results using CentOS-4.2 Any Ideas, or troubleshooting tips are appreciated. Has anyone gotten iscsi-initiator-utils version 4 to work with a NetApp ?

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ISCSI and restarting the network
by Robin Mordasiewicz 21 Nov '05

21 Nov '05

Is there a config file somewhere which I can edit which will automatically kill a specified process, and unmount a filesystem which is mounted over iscsi before shutting down the network, and then after the network is started to mount the iscsi mount point. This is my /etc/fstab and the "/IMAP" device is the iscsi device </etc/fstab> LABEL=/ / ext3 defaults 1 1 LABEL=/boot /boot ext3 defaults 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/sda3 swap swap defaults 0 0 LABEL=/IMAP /opt/test ext3 _netdev 0 0

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Re: [CentOS] SELinux threads, cynicism, one-upmanship, etc.
by Brian T. Brunner 21 Nov '05

21 Nov '05

Well, hughesjr, I'm using the *default* meaning of "default": You'll get SELinux "on" on install if you don't take action to select it off. Automagic partitioning is also default, you have to take action to get into DiskDruid. Brian Brunner brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com (610)796-5838 Brian Brunner brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com (610)796-5838 >>> mailing-lists(a)hughesjr.com 11/21/05 09:39AM >>> On Mon, 2005-11-21 at 14:15 +0000, Peter Farrow wrote: > The point was, as its very much beta quality, it should be up to the > user to ask for it, not have it dropped on them by default. > > Thats the point Brian was making, the essence of the reply to that was > "its not enabled by default because you can turn it off" > > Which is, as we all know, is a rather absurd statement....which had to > be remedied by, yes if you like, a pedantic reply, but a nonetheless > valid one... I disagree ... to me enabled by default would be like the core and base default packages .... they are turned on, and one can not turn them off. They are enabled by default, whether you need them or not. SELinux would be enabled by default if it were turned on that way. ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated

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RE: [CentOS] mysql user missing on centos rpm install
by Bassett, Mark 21 Nov '05

21 Nov '05

Yum install mysql-server. Mysql is just the client apps. -----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces(a)centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Sanjay Arora Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 7:00 AM To: CentOS Mailing List Subject: [CentOS] mysql user missing on centos rpm install Centos 4.2, installed mysql using yum....rpm did not create the mysql user....bug in rpm script or am I doing something wrong? but I did not do anything except yum install mysql & cat /etc/passwd ? Comments? _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

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Re: [CentOS] SELinux threads, cynicism, one-upmanship, etc.
by Brian T. Brunner 21 Nov '05

21 Nov '05

I see we agree. Brian Brunner brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com (610)796-5838 Brian Brunner brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com (610)796-5838 >>> mailing-lists(a)hughesjr.com 11/21/05 08:00AM >>> On Mon, 2005-11-21 at 04:38 -0800, Brian T. Brunner wrote: > Thanks, Mike. > > What I read is that SELinux is still 'beta', and while the need for good > security is decades old, we (CentOS/RHEL folks) should not be presumed > to be willing beta testers. "Enabled by default" presumes I'm willing. > > Brian Brunner > brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com > (610)796-5838 It is not enabled by default ... unless you click through screens ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated

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Re: [CentOS] SELinux threads, cynicism, one-upmanship, etc.
by Brian T. Brunner 21 Nov '05

21 Nov '05

People ask how my life is going, I answer, "Like a basketball... repeatedly smashed to the floor, occasionally thrown for a loop." Brian Brunner brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com (610)796-5838 >>> wmcdonald(a)gmail.com 11/21/05 05:49AM >>> On 19/11/05, Lamar Owen <lowen(a)pari.edu> wrote: > On Friday 18 November 2005 21:02, Preston Crawford wrote: > > Your name is Lamar Odom? > > :-) > > No, see > http://siusalukis.collegesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/owen_lamar01.html See also: http://www.nba.com/draft2003/profiles/McDonaldWill.html :) I used to play too. Will. _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated

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CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 9, Issue 13
by centos-announce-request＠centos.org 21 Nov '05

21 Nov '05

Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to centos-announce(a)centos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-announce-request(a)centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-announce-owner(a)centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest..." Today's Topics: 1. CEBA-2005:1120-1 CentOS 4 x86_64 xfsprogs - bugfix update (CENTOSPLUS Only) (Johnny Hughes) 2. CEBA-2005:1120-1 CentOS 4 i386 xfsprogs - bugfix update (CENTOSPLUS Only) (Johnny Hughes) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 08:57:32 -0600 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2005:1120-1 CentOS 4 x86_64 xfsprogs - bugfix update (CENTOSPLUS Only) To: CentOS-Announce <centos-announce(a)centos.org> Message-ID: <1132498652.14800.8.camel(a)myth.home.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2005:1120-1 CentOS 4 x86_64 xfsprogs - bugfix update (CENTOSPLUS Only) This package is for the version of xfsprogs is that is included in the centosplus repo for CentOS-4 ... this is not an update to the main CentOS-4 repo. The SGI team has released a new xfsprogs SRPM for the XFS project. The following items have changed since the last release of this package: xfsprogs-2.7.3 (29 September 2005) - Fix xfs_repair handling of the morebits bit. - Merge back several kernel changes related to attr2. - Extended xfs_db expert mode commands - Clean up some fsxattr uses to reduce number of syscalls, now that IRIX also supports project identifiers via this interface. xfsprogs-2.7.2 (28 September 2005) - Fix up xfs_repair segmentation fault due to wrong allocation size. xfsprogs-2.7.1 (20 September 2005) - Fix up reporting of devices in xfs_growfs - now uses /proc/mounts in preference to /etc/mtab. - Fix a strtok-related bug in the extraction of device names, also only affecting xfs_growfs. xfsprogs-2.7.0 (16 September 2005) - Support for updated extended attributes format (attr2) - Make xfs_quota tool issue a quota sync in all the needed places, before reporting, to counter affects of delayed allocation. - Quota-related ID signedness issue fixes. - Expert mode xfs_db commands to set/remove attributes. xfsprogs-2.6.37 (11 August 2005) - Fix FreeBSD builds (getmntinfo), thanks to Craig Rodrigues. -------------------------------------- More information about the XFS project can be obtained at: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ -------------------------------------- The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: i386: xfsprogs-2.7.3-1.x86_64.rpm xfsprogs-devel-2.7.3-1.x86_64.rpm src: xfsprogs-2.7.3-1.src.rpm

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[OT] DNSguruz pl help: whois structure, delegation & handling delegation with Tinydns.
by Sanjay Arora 21 Nov '05

21 Nov '05

List: Sorry for posting to this list but could not find step by step instructions anywhere nor get any concerned list to respond. Newbie to DNS technicals but can work with instructions if given in ./configure for complete idiots ;-) 1. I have taken a static IP from my ISP 203.134.221.162 and the ISP has put up an entry in APNIC whois (please check the same)...to me it seems incomplete, as it does not give any contact information/tel/email for my organization NOR any abuse email Id etc. On asking, the ISP simply told me that nobody asks anything more in whois entry from them so I would have to tell what I want of them. Please advise what a standard whois reply should show for an organisation and pointers to a RFC which guides the structure & field names of a whois record. 2. Classless delegation...I want to setup my own primary DNS Server on my DSL with secondary slave DNS servers on the net with DNS services like zoneedit.com etc. Now, I want my ISP to delegate my IP so, I can change my IP reverse DNS etc...(whenever I want instead of waiting for my ISP which takes over a month & multiple contacts, letters & faxes). Please advise what the ISP requires to do and what I require to do & in what order. My ISP says that they will do whatever is possible but since they have never had a query for delegation for a single IP, so they are not sure. Does the TinyDNS server have to be prepared in advance of the APNIC delegation entry? Does the ISP have to create a account/ID with APNIC for me? Please advise the generalised procedure & the steps sequence wise to be taken to do this. DNS Guruz please help...am desperate. With regards. Sanjay.

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how to get erratas's summary and URL with "check-update" ?
by Martin Hamant 21 Nov '05

21 Nov '05

Hello, running a "yum check-update" is cool to get a list of packages to update with versions. In addition of that, i'm looking for a way to get for each package, the link to the RH's errata and the severity status in the same report. My idea was to parse output of check-update, and join it with "centos-announce" mailing list subjects to get it. It's pretty twisted. RHN interface offer a similar report, but it's web based, authenticated, and co ... Is anyone has ever thought about it ? -- Martin

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Highpoint Rocketraid 2240
by Chris Mauritz 21 Nov '05

21 Nov '05

Has anyone on the list used one of these w/Linux? We currently use Linux + Cinelerra for editing uncompressed video (and a few dual G5 macs running Final Cut Pro). Current editing stations are getting a bit long in the tooth so I've been mulling over a mass upgrade. 8-) These cards are interesting to me because they are PCI-X and support 4 SATAII drives per multilane/infiniband connector for a total of 16 drives. Multilane is interesting to me because the editor can use a SFF system (tiny desktop footprint) with 1M multilane cables talking to the pile of disks in an external enclosure stashed out of the way with its own redundant power supply. I was going to just order some multilane 3Ware cards, but one of my more technically inclined video editors suggested this card. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Best regards,

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iSCSI experiences
by Robin Mordasiewicz 20 Nov '05

20 Nov '05

I just tried an iSCSI connection to a NetAPP filer. I first tried using CentOS-4.2, but the iscsi initiator would not work. Using the command iscsi-ls would not show anything. Without spending too much time trying to figure out why, I tried from a CentOS-3 box. Connecting from the CentOS-3 box worked without a problem the first time. I will try further to get the CentOS-4 box to connect, but for starters the CentOS-3 box connection is stable and fast. I have also bonded two one gig NIC's on both the Filer, and the client, and have a separate iSCSI VLAN. I still have yet to do any benchmarking, but initially things seem ok.

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VPN via PPTP and MPPE setup
by Denis Croombs 20 Nov '05

20 Nov '05

I did have a howto for setting up PPTP on a Centos server (3.6) can anyone point me to a howto ? I have been searching the internet but as yet cannot find a howto that works for me. Thanks Denis

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Xhosts file
by Sam Drinkard 20 Nov '05

20 Nov '05

I posted a question a few days back to see if anyone could tell me where the default X0.hosts file should/does reside. Searching the system turns up nothing, and did not find any info in any of the man pages, other than it would reside in /etc, but doesn't. Setting a host access permission does not become permanent, and I'd really like to find out where the thing should be so I can solve that little irritant. Thanks.. -- Snowman

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mysql user missing on centos rpm install
by Sanjay Arora 20 Nov '05

20 Nov '05

Centos 4.2, installed mysql using yum....rpm did not create the mysql user....bug in rpm script or am I doing something wrong? but I did not do anything except yum install mysql & cat /etc/passwd ? Comments?

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CentOS 4.2 and Adaptect 1210SA
by Ryan Lum 20 Nov '05

20 Nov '05

Adaptec 1210SA with a RAID 0 Intel 815 based mobo 512mb ram During the install, Disk Druid or whatever the partition utility is, sees the first disk but says the other disk is not initialized and only reports 150MB when the array is 300MB. How do I get the CentOS installer to see the RAID 0 array correctly?

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Re: [CentOS] [OT][Practices] The Case for RBAC/MAC
by Brian T. Brunner 20 Nov '05

20 Nov '05

Brian Brunner brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com (610)796-5838 >>> thebs413(a)earthlink.net 11/18/05 09:40AM >>> On Fri, 2005-11-18 at 05:43 -0800, Brian T. Brunner wrote: >> 1: e-mail is a people skill, you affect people with it. The value >> of your presentation rises or falls with your skill at presentation. >In environments like this, communication over e-mail is not optional. This concurs with my asserted point: e-mail is a personal skill. >> 2: My embedded headless linux targets live in isolated >> networks, even relative to other computer or >> network equipment at the target site. At times, the nearest >> land is 2 miles straight down (ocean floor). > And your point is? Slightly beyond your grasp? Who, pray tell, is my attacker? >> 3: These targets are also without anything resembling >> a linux-aware operator and (ipso facto) must generate >> NO mail and self-limiting logs of a "usually ignored' type. > Well, that makes a little more sense. YAYYY! I've passed a cognitive coherence test from somebody whose methods of presentation in e-mail are sufficiently poor that I SIMPLY DON'T CARE whether I pass his tests. Once again, I depart from this conversation. ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated

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Re: [CentOS] [OT][Practices] The Case for RBAC/MAC
by Brian T. Brunner 19 Nov '05

19 Nov '05

1: e-mail is a people skill, you affect people with it. The value of your presentation rises or falls with your skill at presentation. 2: My embedded headless linux targets live in isolated networks, even relative to other computer or network equipment at the target site. At times, the nearest land is 2 miles straight down (ocean floor). 3: These targets are also without anything resembling a linux-aware operator and (ipso facto) must generate NO mail and self-limiting logs of a "usually ignored' type. from the above, SELinux offers me *nothing* I need and costs me something for which there is no reward. Brian Brunner brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com (610)796-5838 >>> thebs413(a)earthlink.net 11/17/05 06:38PM >>> Chris Mauritz <chrism(a)imntv.com> wrote: > SELinux shouldn't be turned on by default and in many cases > simply creates extra overhead/bloat on a system that doesn't > really need it. Okay, I give. I would like people to quantity/quality "doesn't really need it." I've really "bit my lip" on this since just after the early stuff, but it keeps coming up over and over. ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated

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x windows and i810 chipset
by Jerry Geis 19 Nov '05

19 Nov '05

here is part of my x file. It will not do the 1920x1080 mode. It says it is not defined. Jerry ---- Identifier "Monitor0" # "LVM-37w1" VendorName "WDE" ModelName "LVM-37w1" # Block type: 2:0 3:fe # Block type: 2:0 3:fd HorizSync 30-80 VertRefresh 50-75 # Max dot clock (video bandwidth) 140 MHz # Block type: 2:0 3:fc # DPMS capabilities: Active off:yes Suspend:no Standby:no Mode "1920x1080" # vfreq 59.934Hz, hfreq 66.587kHz DotClock 138.500000 HTimings 1920 1968 2000 2080 VTimings 1080 1082 1087 1111 Flags "-HSync" "+VSync" EndMode # Block type: 2:0 3:fe # Block type: 2:0 3:fd # Block type: 2:0 3:fc EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "i810" VendorName "Videocard vendor" BoardName "Intel 865" EndSection

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CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 9, Issue 12
by centos-announce-request＠centos.org 19 Nov '05

19 Nov '05

Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to centos-announce(a)centos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-announce-request(a)centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-announce-owner(a)centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest..." Today's Topics: 1. CEBA-2005:842 Important CentOS 4 i386 shadow-utils - bugfix update (Johnny Hughes) 2. CEBA-2005:842 Important CentOS 4 x86_64 shadow-utils - bugfix update (Johnny Hughes) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 11:52:49 -0600 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2005:842 Important CentOS 4 i386 shadow-utils - bugfix update To: CentOS-Announce <centos-announce(a)centos.org> Message-ID: <1132336369.4094.27.camel(a)myth.home.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2005:842 https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2005-842.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: i386: shadow-utils-4.0.3-58.RHEL4.i386.rpm src: shadow-utils-4.0.3-58.RHEL4.src.rpm

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wget
by Peter Farrow 19 Nov '05

19 Nov '05

Dear all, It seems that wget version has had the -C (cache) option removed when it went from 1.9 to version 1.10, this happened somewhere between Centos 3.5 and 4.2. Does anyone know why the -C option was removed and how I can get it back? Other than regressing wget..... Regards Pete

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PostgreSQL 8.1 on CentOS4
by James B. Byrne 19 Nov '05

19 Nov '05

I have discovered that the default init script distributed with pgsql v8.1 sets the listening port to 5432 but does not enable tcp/ip connections. One must add the -i switch to the invocation line in the script. I am not sure if this is an oversight or whether there is another way to tell postmaster to start with tcp/ip listening enabled that I am unaware of. However, I thought that this information might be of interest to anyone else running a non-distro version of pgsql. Regards, Jim -- *** e-mail is not a secure channel *** mailto:byrnejb.<token>@harte-lyne.ca James B. Byrne Harte & Lyne Limited vox: +1 905 561 1241 9 Brockley Drive fax: +1 905 561 0757 Hamilton, Ontario <token> = hal Canada L8E 3C3

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x windows and i810 chipset
by Jerry Geis 18 Nov '05

18 Nov '05

I have an i810 chipset and am trying to set a custom mode. X is not taking that mode. Has anyone else run into this situation? How do I get X to take the mode on an i810 driver. Jerry

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How to properly install VLC?
by Olaf Greve 18 Nov '05

18 Nov '05

Hi all, My colleagues and friends from time to time send me .wmv files and I'd like to be able to view them under CentOS. VLC was recommended to me, and AFAIR about a half year ago I tried installing it. I don't remember the exact details, but I do remember that the Red Hat and Fedora binary distributions didn't work without giving all sorts of errors. I _think_ I then did a source compilation, and managed to get VLC at least to start up from the command line. However... It is still a brute text interface only, and when I try to add a wmv file to the playlist it gives me all sorts of errors and nagging about 'file format probably not supported' etc. :( I just tried to install the Red Hat binary distribution again from FireFox (from: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/) and I didn't see it complain about anything, but still it doesn't work any differently from the above. :((( Does anyone know how to go about this (I don't mind doing a source compilation, just as long as I now which version to grab and how to get it properly installed)? Cheers, Olafo

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Beware - Yum 3.5 to 3.6 upgrade replaces named.conf
by Michael Rock 18 Nov '05

18 Nov '05

You get so used to yum upgrades going so smoothly but I learned the hard way to always make a thorough inspection after a yum update. I let yum go ahead and upgrade from 3.5 to 3.6. Afterwards I made some basic queries to httpd, postfix and bind named (probably a cached query). I even checked the /var/named/ directory and saw all my hosts files. So looked like another smooth ride, well until today I noticed my domains dropped off the net. Too bad I did not check the bind gui or look at /etc/named.conf after the yum update since it was replaced with a generic version from 3.6. Luckily I copied /etc/named.conf-rpmsave to named.conf and I am back in business, well at least in 24 to 72 hours for the rest of the world :( __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com

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memoir and latex
by Sharon Kimble 18 Nov '05

18 Nov '05

I installed Centos 4.2 last night, I moved from Fedora Core 4 to it as I wanted to get off the distro upgrade treadmill, so I'm still learning about centos. I've been trying to add the memoir package to be used with latex but I can't find the exact right place for it. Can anyone who's installed it or knows about latex tell me please? Hopefully thanks Sharon. -- 12:50:25 up 58 min, 3 users, load average: 1.58, 1.72, 1.80 A taste of linux http://www.sharons.org.uk/taste/index.html efever http://www.efever.blogspot.com/ Centos 4.2, KDE 3.4.3-1.0, OpenOffice 2.0 Registered Linux user 334501

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Connecting via ssh i don't see accent characters
by iagosineiro＠yahoo.es 18 Nov '05

18 Nov '05

Hi. When I connect via ssh I don't see the accent characters for example when I execute setup config utility, but locally I see the accent characters. Note: It's a CentOS 4.2 configured for spanish. Iago

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Re: [CentOS] Minimal installation How-to?
by Brian T. Brunner 18 Nov '05

18 Nov '05

>From http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=798&forum=31 Re: centos4 server CD _almost_ here :) Posted on: 2005/8/22 16:43 _________________ -- Karanbir Singh { http://www.karan.org/ } >From http://www.karan.org/blog/ (the freak will see you now) CentOS 4.2 Server CD - i386 Released The single CD Server edition of CentOS 4.2/i386 has now been released. It lets you setup a basic CentOS 4 system along with the server components. Anything else that is needed can then be installed via yum or up2date once the system is running. The resulting installed system is identical to a normal CentOS 4 install ( with yum and up2date ). One important thing to keep in mind - this installer uses the stock i686 kernel - therefore i586 machines are not supported ( including MiniITX, ViaC3's, AMD K6' etc ). If you need to install on such machines, you will need to get the full distro. Download it from the /centos/4/isos/i386/ directory on your local mirror or pickup the torrent. We appreciate all feedback ( via http://bugs.centos.org/ ), including RFE's and Bug notices. Enjoy! -- Karanbir Singh { http://www.karan.org/ } Brian Brunner brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com (610)796-5838 >>> seanos(a)seanos.net 11/16/05 04:52AM >>> Tim Edwards wrote: > Sanjay Arora wrote: >> I would like to install the minimal level of Centos, with yum & selinux >> on my servers during the basic install from CD with Anaconda and then >> use yum to install whatever application is major on that server, so that >> yum installs its dependencies only, thus keeping to the target of >> installing only what is needed on a server. > > When you get to the package selection stage of the install scroll down > to the bottom and select 'Minimal Install'. I believe CentOS team released a CentOS 'Server CD', single CD for said 'minimal' installs. Recall something mensioned about installer using i586 or i686 kernel - Quick look through archive should show post in question. Regards, Sean _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated

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yum update - Glibc Problem
by Lee W 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

Hi, I've just done a fresh install of Centos 4.0 on a Via C3 Based system using the Centos DVD I downloaded a while ago. Then install goes though fine as does running 'yum check-update'. However when running the actual 'yum update', it downloads all the headers but afterwards displays the following errors:- --> Processing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.3.4-2 for package: glibc --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.3.4-2 is needed by package glibc I've checked using 'rpm -q glibc-common' that the appropriate version is installed (The system wouldn't run otherwise would it?):- [root@doc ~]# rpm -q glibc-common glibc-common-2.3.4-2 Has anyone else experienced this problem, I'm sure that I have been able to install Centos 4 on a Via system before, so does anyone know what (if anything) has changed with the recent versions of Glibc? Thanks in advance for any assistance offered Regards Lee

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Flashplayer-plugin
by Robert 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

I know that flashplayer-plugin is not packaged or distributed by CentOS but there's a RedHat "Critical" advisory at https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2005-835.html that I don't believe has been mentioned here. There is no CentOS rpm that I can find but the binary of version 7.0.61 is available from http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=S… and is pretty much a no-talent install. (Sure would be nice if rpm knew about it, though...)

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single CD server install ISO disk ready?
by Robert 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

greetings, i was wondering if i missed an announcement or if the quarterly update pushed back the release of the single CD server install ISO ??? :-) is there an ETA please? thank you! - rh -- Robert Hanson - Abba Communications Computer & Internet Services (509) 624-7159 - www.abbacomm.net

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Re: [CentOS] SELinux threads, cynicism, one-upmanship, etc.
by Brian T. Brunner 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

Brian: DON'T focus blame on "consultancy". The management style you lambaste is prevalent to the point of being pandemic. The problem is NOT lack of accountability, it is rather one of "to whom are we accountable?" My products are NOT reviewed by geeks, theorists, and techno-pedants. My products are accountable to testers who are accountable to marketing who are accountable to stock holders and well-drillers and factory owners. They want a profit product, not a perfect product. "Good, fast, cheap; pick two" says it well. --the *other* pedantic Brian-- Brian Brunner brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com (610)796-5838 >>> thebs413(a)earthlink.net 11/17/05 01:08PM >>> Peter Farrow <peter(a)farrows.org> wrote: > running a consultancy business where time is money, tunring > it off and configuring as we always did before represents Consulting is why the IT infrastructure and security of this country has gone to crap. There is no accountability. There is only the pressure to complete things in unrealistic timeframes. Sound security policy has been put out-the-window by consulting, support non-sense, etc... You have to "tear it down" so you can "dumb it down" for people. And it happens in the most crucial of our nation's networks. Why? Consultants aren't accountable in most cases. And that's typically because the clients want it done now. ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated

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Custom kernel RPM/SRPM
by Giovanni P. Tirloni 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

Hi, I've built customs kernels from the SRPMs with the following: rpmbuild -bp --target=i686 /path/to/spec cd /usr/src ln -s /usr/src/redhat/BUILD/kernel-x.y.z/linux-x.y.z linux cd linux make oldconfig make menuconfig make all make modules make modules_install And it works just fine. The problem now is that I think installing that way isn't "cool": I wan to build my own custom kernel RPM/SRPM. I thought about doing a "rpmbuild -bp" and change the options. Then a "rpmbuild -bc --short-circuit" and a "rpmbuild -bi --short-circuit". What's the correct way of doing this? Thanks in advance, -- Giovanni P. Tirloni http://blog.tirloni.org

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Re: [CentOS] SELinux threads, cynicism, one-upmanship, etc.
by Brian T. Brunner 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

What I implied, that Brian deleted, is that my product is in alien hands (some of whom can spell "Linux") and must pass the muster of the testers who answer to the marketeers who answer to the stock holders and customers. My product must fit the hands that work it. NONE of them know what SELinux is (compared to Linux) and (properly) resent every extent of my making them learn Linux. Their day job has NOTHING to do with learning Linux, let alone SELinux. Therefore, if SELinux breaks *anything* it gets switched off and is not part of the product. If it is a seamless fit, with no regression, then it can be allowed. Any self-important pedant who insists that this bully-boss attribute shall be catered to will be pedanted off the drilling platform. Walk home, twit! Land is only 2 miles away (straight down). "Ahhh but this is better and it is the future!" When (if) it doesn't break my stride, it will become the present. Until then it's already history. This rant/diatribe is for the benefit of people making "improvements" in a running, deployed, supported product. I think, at this point, I'll depart from the debate. Brian Brunner brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com (610)796-5838 >>> lesmikesell(a)gmail.com 11/17/05 01:40PM >>> On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 12:29, Bryan J. Smith wrote: > "Brian T. Brunner" wrote: > > it is rather one of "to whom are we accountable?" > > I'm accountable to myself. > > I know I shock people, but if I'm to blame for anything, I'm > the first to admit it. I don't hide behind things, and I > have refused to do things before. And I've been let go by a > client for it too. Accepting the blame remotely isn't quite the same as working at the same place for a decade or more and having to live with what you built. Your rants on the side of security vs. convenience would be more believable if you added that you did all of your own work under such conditions and planned to continue for the foreseeable future. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell(a)gmail.com _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated

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migration from redhat AS3/4
by Bassett, Mark 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

We have 30 or so boxes that are currently running either redhat as3 or as4 and would like to migrate them to Centos 4.2. We have a local centos 4.2 repository using yam. I have in the past updated es3 to as3 by removing the redhat-release rpm and installing the other redhat rpm. I realize there are virtually no differences in es and as3, except for access to additional packages. In any case, on the AS4 boxes would we be able to do the same thing? Remove the redhat-release rpm and install the centos-release file then switch the yum repository and update? Or are we talking a reinstall? I doubt that it will work from AS3 however, but I thought I'd throw that in as well. Thanks in advance, Mark

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Putting /etc in cvs
by Ugo Bellavance 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

Hi, I'd like to put my servers' config files in cvs to make it easier to manage (yes, I know about Cfengine). I've been looking for a tutorial and I could find any, and since I'm not a CVS guru, I tried a few things, without even knowing if I'm doing it right. Any hints? Regards, -- Ugo -> Please don't send a copy of your reply by e-mail. I read the list. -> Please avoid top-posting, long signatures and HTML, and cut the irrelevant parts in your replies.

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kqemu centos3
by Dave 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

Anyone get kqemu to make in Centos3? I'm getting modules disabled messages, AFAIK module support is enabled, its the stock kernel. make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/qemu-0.7.2/mips-softmmu' make -C kqemu make[1]: Entering directory `/tmp/qemu-0.7.2/kqemu' make -C /lib/modules/2.4.21-37.EL/build SUBDIRS=`pwd` modules make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-37.EL' The present kernel configuration has modules disabled. Type 'make config' and enable loadable module support. Then build a kernel with module support enabled. make[2]: *** [modules] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-37.EL' make[1]: *** [kqemu.o] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/qemu-0.7.2/kqemu' make: *** [all] Error 2

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CESA-2005:810 / CESA-2005:811 -- missing src.rpms?
by Matthew Miller 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

Recent updates to gdk-pixbuf and gtk2 have the binary rpms in the updates tree, but not the src.rpms. I know we can just get those from Red Hat, but it's nicer if we've got a coherent, self-contained distribution here.... -- Matthew Miller mattdm(a)mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> Boston University Linux ------> <http://linux.bu.edu/>

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RE: [CentOS] SELinux threads, cynicism, one-upmanship, etc.
by Brian T. Brunner 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

>All I want is enough power to do my job... and to not be distracted from *my* job to tackle what some stranger in Illinois thinks my job should be! SELinux is my alligator, not my swamp. CentOS4 allowed me to switch the thing off at install. Done. When SELinux is my job, I'll figure it out. Until then, I don't care who I irk, disappoint, or perturb by switching it off. Brian Brunner brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com (610)796-5838 >>> noyler(a)khimetrics.com 11/16/05 05:05PM >>> > The main reason I think sysadmins in general seem to hate SELinux is the > 'Mandatory' part of 'Mandatory Access Control' : that is, superuser power > is too addictive to get rid of, and SELinux can do away with 'superuser' > powers entirely. I disagree with this. The main reason I dislike SELinux is the way I was introduced to it. I wasted quite a bit of time on an issue before I even knew what SELinux was because it was turned on by default on an FC2 machine. I was asked by another admin to use FC2 on a particular job, and I never saw SELinux. The turning it on by default irked me. Superuser power as a trip is just silly. What's the difference? All I want is enough power to do my job. _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated

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CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 9, Issue 11
by centos-announce-request＠centos.org 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to centos-announce(a)centos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-announce-request(a)centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-announce-owner(a)centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest..." Today's Topics: 1. CESA-2005:810-01: Important CentOS 2 i386 gdk-pixbuf security update (John Newbigin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:24:45 +1100 From: John Newbigin <jnewbigin(a)ict.swin.edu.au> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2005:810-01: Important CentOS 2 i386 gdk-pixbuf security update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <437BB1AD.7030501(a)ict.swin.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed The following errata for CentOS-2 have been built and uploaded to the centos mirror: RHSA-2005:810-01 Important: gdk-pixbuf security update Files available: gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0-12.el2.3.i386.rpm gdk-pixbuf-devel-0.22.0-12.el2.3.i386.rpm gdk-pixbuf-gnome-0.22.0-12.el2.3.i386.rpm More details are available from the RedHat web site at https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rh21as-errata.html The easy way to make sure you are up to date with all the latest patches is to run: # yum update -- John Newbigin Computer Systems Officer Faculty of Information and Communication Technologies Swinburne University of Technology Melbourne, Australia http://www.ict.swin.edu.au/staff/jnewbigin ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce End of CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 9, Issue 11 **********************************************

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Turning root partition into a RAID array
by Nigel kendrick 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

I have a CentOS 4.2 system that was set up VERY quickly following the demise of its former life as a CentOS 3 server - you don't want the full story, but it had to be done quickly to get a company up and working following a slight disaster involving an electrician, a portable appliance safety tester and a pulled power cable - anyway, here's where I am at... Everything is running fine but I now want to mirror the root partition (/dev/hda3). I have read quite a few set of notes on the theory but since they contain conflicting advice I am hoping someone here can set me straight - here's what IO want to do: hda3 and hde3 become a mirrored pair (/dev/md0) and this is mounted at boot time as / Is it as simple as a quick mdadm command and then an edit of /etc/inittab?? If I try and use mdadm right now I get complaints that /dev/hda3 is busy (fair enough) so I guess I need to be in less than 'full steam ahead' mode to make the change - over to you.... Thanks

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question
by adrian kok 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

Hi all I have the following questions 1/ do you know how to interrupt the console to capture the message when the system is in booting 2/ I use "top" to monitor the process to output the file. but the file is empty. Do you know why? Thank you

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Generate 32bit programs on x86_64 architecture?
by Michael Ubell 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

I'm trying to run purify on CentOS on an Intel Pentium 4/630 processor. Purify does not like the 64bit code. Is there some way to compile and run programs so that they are only using the 32 bit model? I tried gcc -m32 but then the system libraries come up missing. Purify engine: Error: Couldn't open the file crt1.o Purify engine: Error: Couldn't open the file crti.o Purify engine: Error: Couldn't resolve library directive: -ltcl8.4, (couldn't find library libtcl8.4.so or libtcl8.4.a). Purify engine: Error: Couldn't resolve library directive: -ldl, (couldn't find library libdl.so or libdl.a). Purify engine: Error: Couldn't resolve library directive: -lieee, (couldn't find library libieee.so or libieee.a). Purify engine: Error: Couldn't resolve library directive: -lm, (couldn't find library libm.so or libm.a). Purify engine: Error: Couldn't resolve library directive: -lc, (couldn't find library libc.so or libc.a). Purify engine: Error: Couldn't open the file crtn.o Purify engine: Error: Couldn't resolve library directive: -ldl, (couldn't find library libdl.so or libdl.a).

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Problem with X...help please.
by Sanjay Arora 17 Nov '05

17 Nov '05

List: I am using Centos updated till date. Last night I shut down the system and X was working fine...today morning I start X and it does not work for my normal user. X starts for root & other users. The error output seems totally incomprehensibe and scrolls away from the screen too quickly. The /var/log/Xorg.0.log seems to have only the subsequent success of login of other user or I can't seem to find the correct error in it. Only thing I did yesterday in addition to normal browsing & emailing & yum updation...was to install the Yahoo messenger for RH9...was said to be compatible with ES4 and it did work perfectly fine. How do I startx X for the user it is not starting for? or at least where do I find the errors to report. Only display 0 setup for X. Help a desperate man please !! ;-((( Sanjay. --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

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RE: [CentOS] SELinux threads, cynicism, one-upmanship, etc.
by Nathan Oyler 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

> Ummm, why were you installing Fedora Core 2 in a _production_ > environment? > > I mean, I'm all for Fedora Core in a production environment, > but _not_ the latest version that changes everything (which > Fedora Core 2 did). Yikes! It was a request I had nothing to do with. I didn't say it was an entirely reasonable argument, but those were my feelings. I wouldn't have installed FC2 if that wasn't what was forced on me. I have my domains, and this wasn't one of them. But yes, you're right.

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RE: [CentOS] SELinux threads, cynicism, one-upmanship, etc.
by Nathan Oyler 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

> The main reason I think sysadmins in general seem to hate SELinux is the > 'Mandatory' part of 'Mandatory Access Control' : that is, superuser power > is too addictive to get rid of, and SELinux can do away with 'superuser' > powers entirely. I disagree with this. The main reason I dislike SELinux is the way I was introduced to it. I wasted quite a bit of time on an issue before I even knew what SELinux was because it was turned on by default on an FC2 machine. I was asked by another admin to use FC2 on a particular job, and I never saw SELinux. I turn it on now for all machines, but if you were to have asked me at any point in the week my feelings on SELinux they would have not been pleasant. At the time, I looked and there wasn't any real documentation for what I was trying to do, and why it failed. Now after time has passed, I realize what was going on but when you're in the middle of a job on a time crunch, the last thing you want to do is learn a new security system. I turned the thing off. Got what I needed done, and came back to the issue at a later date. The turning it on by default irked me. Superuser power as a trip is just silly. What's the difference? All I want is enough power to do my job.

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correct way to migrate old data on hda to new sda
by Jerry Geis 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

I am migrating off of a 40GIG hda to a new 160GIG sda disk. I plan on installing 4.2 from scratch. But after that what is the correct way do transfer all the data from hda (home partition really) to the new sda home partition? I presume there is just a couple files in /etc to restore also. Like hosts, passwd. Anything else? Other suggestions welcome also. this is my first time migrating to a new disk. THanks, jerry

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Java with 4.2
by Russ N3TIH 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

whats involved to have full java support with Centos 4.2 ? Russ

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Downloading v4
by kevin.kempter＠dataintellect.com 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

Hi List; I see in the 4.2 downloads area the following: [ ] CentOS-4.2-i386-bin1of4.iso 11-Oct-2005 13:07 618M [ ] CentOS-4.2-i386-bin2of4.iso 11-Oct-2005 13:13 635M [ ] CentOS-4.2-i386-bin3of4.iso 11-Oct-2005 13:20 639M [ ] CentOS-4.2-i386-bin4of4.iso 11-Oct-2005 13:22 217M [ ] CentOS-4.2.ServerCD-i386.iso 07-Nov-2005 04:36 558M What is the 4.2ServerCD ? I plan to download the 4 bin cd's and load the os on a sony vaio laptop. Do I also need the server cd?

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Re: [CentOS] Downloading v4
by Brian T. Brunner 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

It is a single-CD distribution of CentOS 4 that (so I hear) will install in *small* places. Since it is intended as a small server distribution, the package set is sharply reduced. Brian Brunner brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com (610)796-5838 >>> kevin.kempter(a)dataintellect.com 11/16/05 01:56PM >>> Hi List; I see in the 4.2 downloads area the following: [ ] CentOS-4.2-i386-bin1of4.iso 11-Oct-2005 13:07 618M [ ] CentOS-4.2-i386-bin2of4.iso 11-Oct-2005 13:13 635M [ ] CentOS-4.2-i386-bin3of4.iso 11-Oct-2005 13:20 639M [ ] CentOS-4.2-i386-bin4of4.iso 11-Oct-2005 13:22 217M [ ] CentOS-4.2.ServerCD-i386.iso 07-Nov-2005 04:36 558M What is the 4.2ServerCD ? I plan to download the 4 bin cd's and load the os on a sony vaio laptop. Do I also need the server cd? _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated

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[OT] Witty one liners or computer related proverbs
by Peter Farrow 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

Dear All, I need some witty computer related proverbs or one liners that some of have used in the past as footers for your emails for example. I particularly remember a PERL based transliteration joke/footer that when run in PERL produces a witty output.... This is to fix a problem internally created by an over zealous salesman at my company pinning up A4 sheets with bullSh*t sales proverbs on them!!! thanks Pete

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Invitation
by manish jain 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

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Re: [CentOS] Minimal installation How-to?
by Brian T. Brunner 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

Building a new ISO with a <= i586 kernel should not be hard. Brian Brunner brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com (610)796-5838 >>> brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com 11/16/05 10:08AM >>> >From http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=798&forum=31 Re: centos4 server CD _almost_ here :) Posted on: 2005/8/22 16:43 _________________ -- Karanbir Singh { http://www.karan.org/ } >From http://www.karan.org/blog/ (the freak will see you now) CentOS 4.2 Server CD - i386 Released The single CD Server edition of CentOS 4.2/i386 has now been released. It lets you setup a basic CentOS 4 system along with the server components. Anything else that is needed can then be installed via yum or up2date once the system is running. The resulting installed system is identical to a normal CentOS 4 install ( with yum and up2date ). One important thing to keep in mind - this installer uses the stock i686 kernel - therefore i586 machines are not supported ( including MiniITX, ViaC3's, AMD K6' etc ). If you need to install on such machines, you will need to get the full distro. Download it from the /centos/4/isos/i386/ directory on your local mirror or pickup the torrent. We appreciate all feedback ( via http://bugs.centos.org/ ), including RFE's and Bug notices. Enjoy! -- Karanbir Singh { http://www.karan.org/ } Brian Brunner brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com (610)796-5838 >>> seanos(a)seanos.net 11/16/05 04:52AM >>> Tim Edwards wrote: > Sanjay Arora wrote: >> I would like to install the minimal level of Centos, with yum & selinux >> on my servers during the basic install from CD with Anaconda and then >> use yum to install whatever application is major on that server, so that >> yum installs its dependencies only, thus keeping to the target of >> installing only what is needed on a server. > > When you get to the package selection stage of the install scroll down > to the bottom and select 'Minimal Install'. I believe CentOS team released a CentOS 'Server CD', single CD for said 'minimal' installs. Recall something mensioned about installer using i586 or i686 kernel - Quick look through archive should show post in question. Regards, Sean _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Witty one liners or computer related proverbs
by Brian T. Brunner 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

/usr/games/fortune, run in a forever loop, should provide you with a fair collection in short order. Midget fortune teller escapes! Headline: Small Medium at large! Brian Brunner brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com (610)796-5838 >>> peter(a)farrows.org 11/16/05 09:50AM >>> Dear All, I need some witty computer related proverbs or one liners that some of have used in the past as footers for your emails for example. I particularly remember a PERL based transliteration joke/footer that when run in PERL produces a witty output.... This is to fix a problem internally created by an over zealous salesman at my company pinning up A4 sheets with bullSh*t sales proverbs on them!!! thanks Pete _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated

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CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 9, Issue 10
by centos-announce-request＠centos.org 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to centos-announce(a)centos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-announce-request(a)centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-announce-owner(a)centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest..." Today's Topics: 1. CESA-2005:810 Important CentOS 3 i386 gdk-pixbuf - security update (Tru Huynh) 2. CESA-2005:810 Important CentOS 3 x86_64 gdk-pixbuf - security update (Tru Huynh) 3. CESA-2005:811 Important CentOS 3 i386 gtk2 - security update (Tru Huynh) 4. CESA-2005:811 Important CentOS 3 x86_64 gtk2 - security update (Tru Huynh) 5. CESA-2005:811 Important CentOS 4 x86_64 gtk2 - security update (Johnny Hughes) 6. CESA-2005:811 Important CentOS 4 i386 gtk2 - security update (Johnny Hughes) 7. CESA-2005:810 Important CentOS 4 i386 gdk-pixbuf - security update (Johnny Hughes) 8. CESA-2005:810 Important CentOS 4 x86_64 gdk-pixbuf - security update (Johnny Hughes) 9. CESA-2005:810 Important CentOS 3 ia64 gdk-pixbuf - security update (Pasi Pirhonen) 10. CESA-2005:811 Important CentOS 3 ia64 gtk2 - security update (Pasi Pirhonen) 11. CESA-2005:810 Important CentOS 4 ia64 gdk-pixbuf - security update (Pasi Pirhonen) 12. CESA-2005:811 Important CentOS 4 ia64 gtk2 - security update (Pasi Pirhonen) 13. CESA-2005:810 Important CentOS 4 axp gdk-pixbuf - security update (Pasi Pirhonen) 14. CESA-2005:810 Important CentOS 3 s390(x) gdk-pixbuf - security update (Pasi Pirhonen) 15. CESA-2005:810 Important CentOS 4 s390(x) gdk-pixbuf - security update (Pasi Pirhonen) 16. CESA-2005:811 Important CentOS 4 axp gtk2 - security update (Pasi Pirhonen) 17. CESA-2005:811 Important CentOS 3 s390(x) gtk2 - security update (Pasi Pirhonen) 18. CESA-2005:811 Important CentOS 4 s390(x) gtk2 - security update (Pasi Pirhonen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 17:47:15 +0100 From: Tru Huynh <tru(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2005:810 Important CentOS 3 i386 gdk-pixbuf - security update To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <20051115164715.GA16232(a)sillage.bis.pasteur.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2005:810 gdk-pixbuf security update for CentOS 3 i386: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2005-810.html The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to the mirrors: i386: updates/i386/RPMS/gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0-13.el3.3.i386.rpm updates/i386/RPMS/gdk-pixbuf-devel-0.22.0-13.el3.3.i386.rpm updates/i386/RPMS/gdk-pixbuf-gnome-0.22.0-13.el3.3.i386.rpm source: updates/SRPMS/gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0-13.el3.3.src.rpm You may update your CentOS-3 i386 installations by running the command: yum update gdk-pixbuf\* Tru -- Tru Huynh (CentOS-3 i386/x86_64 Package Maintenance) http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xBEFA581B

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RE: [CentOS] question[Scanned]
by Pascal MIQUET 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

Did you try the dmesg command when the system is up ? HTH Pascal -----Message d'origine----- De : centos-bounces(a)centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] De la part de adrian kok Envoyé : mercredi 16 novembre 2005 04:46 À : centos(a)centos.org Objet : [CentOS] question[Scanned] Hi all I have the following questions 1/ do you know how to interrupt the console to capture the message when the system is in booting 2/ I use "top" to monitor the process to output the file. but the file is empty. Do you know why? Thank you _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

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Minimal installation How-to?
by Sanjay Arora 16 Nov '05

16 Nov '05

Hi all I would like to install the minimal level of Centos, with yum & selinux on my servers during the basic install from CD with Anaconda and then use yum to install whatever application is major on that server, so that yum installs its dependencies only, thus keeping to the target of installing only what is needed on a server. Please advise pros/cons of this approach and how to do it. I have never used anaconda in such a way before...please advise. With best regards. Sanjay.

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SELinux on CentOS4
by James B. Byrne 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

craigwhite at azapple.com wrote: > The technical information is good but it seems to zip over my head > and a selinux for dummies thing would seem to be helpful but I did > post up my alterations to local.te for the 2 issues that I was > dealing with and yea, it fixed them. Consider this book from O'Reilly: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/excerpt/selnx_1/ Not exactly for dummies, but far better than groping in the dark. Regards, Jim -- *** e-mail is not a secure channel *** mailto:byrnejb.<token>@harte-lyne.ca James B. Byrne Harte & Lyne Limited vox: +1 905 561 1241 9 Brockley Drive fax: +1 905 561 0757 Hamilton, Ontario <token> = hal Canada L8E 3C3

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SELinux on CentOS4
by James B. Byrne 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

I regret the delay in replying to this topic but I am a digest subscriber so I only see list traffic once every 24 hours. When I moved from RHES3 to CentOS4 back in April/May of this year I was bitten by the SELinux gnat as well, and the temptation to swat a distracting irritation by killing it in its bed nearly proved irresistible. However, taking to heart the advice given to me here and reading about SELinux on RedHat's web site I choose not to. Rather I discovered how to get immediate fixes to the SELinux permissions for specific programs applied to the host's local policy while seeking confirmation here and elsewhere as to whether the policy changes proposed by "audit2allow" made sense or should be adjusted. The process of reconfiguring the local policy for SELinux is in itself almost trivial, assuming that one has first installed the applicable selinux-policy-targeted-sources rpm package. One need only first establish that the problem is in fact caused by SELinux by grep'ing the system log file (/var/log/messages) for entries containing "avc" relating to the application in question. If this proves the case then first "cd /etc/selinux/targeted/src/policy" and then "make reload". Then run the program that is having problems with SELinux, then run audit2allow (#audit2allow -l -i /var/log/messages)and gather the resulting policy recommendations into a text file. The -l flag limits the report to those log entries made by SELinux since the last policy reload. You can then: add them to your local policy file (/etc/selinux/targeted/src/policy/domains/misc/local.te); cd into /etc/selinux/targeted/src/policy; and make reload as root. You may have to repeat this process several times to exhaust all of the circumstances that a packages trespasses against SELinux. You will probably find it most convenient if you keep these changes segregated by application in your local policy file. I also have found it useful to post them as a set on SELinux related mailing lists (and even this list) for comments by people more knowledgeable than I with the intent of narrowing the permissions granted the application to the minimum set required. Audit2allow often recommends wider scope than actually needed. The result is that with a few minutes work virtually any application can be enabled within SELinux without forgoing any of the other benefits that SELinux provides. Even if the application is initially granted too great an access the resulting situation is usually still preferable to turning SELinux off entirely. One can always return to the local policy file and tighten it up when one obtains the necessary information as to where this is advisable. Regards, Jim -- *** e-mail is not a secure channel *** mailto:byrnejb.<token>@harte-lyne.ca James B. Byrne Harte & Lyne Limited vox: +1 905 561 1241 9 Brockley Drive fax: +1 905 561 0757 Hamilton, Ontario <token> = hal Canada L8E 3C3

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Evolution problem after update
by Sam Drinkard 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

List: Not positive this is an update problem, but did not have it till after a recent update. Now when sending mail to my mailserver, I get an error from Evolution as "Host lookup failed: vortex.wa4phy.net%20 :Name or service not known" I have to use the MSA port due to port 25 being blocked by isp. Any ideas about the error message? The resolver is pointed to the upstream name server, and I have made no other changes. -- Snowman

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Re: centos] Beware - Yum 3.5 to 3.6 upgrade replacesnamed.conf -- not a YUM issue ...
by Brian T. Brunner 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

"Bzzzt wrong --- yada" is contentious, we don't need it. Please. 2: It's not rpm, it's the packager => "The killer is innocent, the *gun* killed the victim" " the gun didn't kill him, the *bullet* did" "no, the wound did!" "no, the loss of blood did" "no, dying did". *jeesh* Brian Brunner brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com (610)796-5838 >>> herrold(a)owlriver.com 11/15/05 03:56PM >>> On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, Bryan J. Smith wrote: > Has nothing to do with YUM. > It has to do with RPM. buzz -- wrong - thanks for playing -- It has to do with the rpm packager's design decisions; nothing more, nothing less -- rpm did just what it was told to do. -- Russ Herrold _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated

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[Fwd: [suse-amd64] OFF-TOPIC - *very* bad]
by William A. Mahaffey III 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

I saw this on the SuSE AMD64 list & decided to pass it along, since it seems like a sneaky problem. Later posts confirm it is *NOT* AMD64-specific, nor SuSE 9.3 specific .... -- William A. Mahaffey III --------------------------------------------------------------------- Remember, ignorance is bliss, but willful ignorance is LIBERALISM !!!!

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Jinzora and mounted file system
by Darryl L. Pierce 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

When I setup my system, I created a file system (/dev/hda3) that I mount as /var/music. I installed Jinzora on my system and want to use it as the frontend for listening to my MP3s. However, when Jinzora tries to access anything on /var/music it complains that it's an invalid file system. I can use sound-juicer to rip CDs and write them to that file system, though. I also created an alias for Apache to host that directory and that also complains that it's not accessible, so I'm thinking there's a permissions problem. The mount point and the files on that file system are owned by apache.apache so that's not the problem, I'm assuming. Any ideas? If I copy the files to a a directory that's *not* a mount point then Jinzora reads the files just fine, even if that directory's not an Apache alias... -- Darryl L. Pierce <mcpierce(a)gmail.com> Homepage: http://mcpierce.multiply.com/ "By doubting we come to inquiry, through inquiry truth." - Peter Abelard

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Re: [CentOS] Turning root partition into a RAID array
by chris hammond 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

RIP (Recovery is Possible) also has a script to allow you to install and boot it from USB flash/pen drive. Chris >>>spamcatcher(a)lantrix.no 11/15/05 1:03 pm >>> >That's the ticket. I wonder if anyone has tried building a "rescue USB >thumb drive" since the 1GB devices are so cheap these days. That would >be great for this kind of situation. FWIW, I'm booting my firewall from an usb pen drive with devil-linux installed, so a rescue environment should be doable. But then again, devil-linux works like a rescue environment for CentOS anyway. :) Regards, Harald -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Java support : is there a native package ?
by mbneto 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

Hi, I was wondering if there is a rpm package for java (jre) to centos 4.x or do I have to get from sun/ibm/blackdown ? tks.

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