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Re: [CentOS] why was LILO removed from centOS 4.2?
by Brian T. Brunner 30 Nov '05

30 Nov '05

>>> mail-lists(a)karan.org 11/30/05 11:57AM >>> Brian T. Brunner wrote: > The question remains unanswered: WHY was LILO removed? You seem to have missed the post where I highlighted the fact that it has not been removed. ***Yes, the "removed" was only virtual (making it invisible unless you have ***knowledge from elsewhere) not surgical. > > The question was "Hey, REDHAT, *WHY*?" you also seem to have the wrong forum for that question, please contact redhat at one of the following ***Anybody here know of a reason? Brian Brunner brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com (610)796-5838 ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated

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X windows is taking 99 percent of cpu
by Jerry Geis 30 Nov '05

30 Nov '05

I am running centos 4.2 on a P4 3 GIG with 2 GIG ram. This machine has been fine for months. my laptop is fine. X is taking 99 percent of the cpu after some time. All I was doing was editing code. If I killall -9 X it comes back for a while then maxes out again. Any ideas on something to tweek??? THanks, jerry ------------ Tasks: 120 total, 2 running, 118 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 50.2% us, 0.0% sy, 0.0% ni, 49.8% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si Mem: 2074188k total, 742456k used, 1331732k free, 39704k buffers Swap: 19984840k total, 0k used, 19984840k free, 527876k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 5270 root 25 0 170m 21m 5808 R 99.9 1.0 7:26.25 X 1 root 16 0 2264 556 476 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.44 init 2 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0 3 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0 4 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 migration/1 5 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 ksoftirqd/1 6 root 5 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.10 events/0 7 root 5 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.06 events/1 8 root 6 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khelper 9 root 15 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpid 33 root 5 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kblockd/0 34 root 5 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kblockd/1 44 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 pdflush 45 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.25 pdflush 35 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khubd 47 root 13 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/0 48 root 9 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/1 46 root 25 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kswapd0 122 root 25 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kseriod 192 root 5 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ata/0 193 root 7 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ata/1 195 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_0 196 root 19 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_1 214 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.18 kjournald 1144 root 6 -10 1560 460 380 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 udevd 1348 root 18 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 shpchpd_event 1828 root 5 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kauditd 2029 root 5 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kmirrord 2030 root 5 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kmir_mon 2049 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.28 kjournald 2050 root 19 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kjournald 2789 root 16 0 2408 596 508 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.06 syslogd 2793 root 15 0 3072 472 404 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 klogd 2804 root 16 0 2584 476 404 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 irqbalance 2815 rpc 16 0 2980 580 484 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 portmap 2835 rpcuser 16 0 2440 756 656 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 rpc.statd 2868 root 16 0 5048 1016 844 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 rpc.idmapd

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Building rpms
by Bowie Bailey 30 Nov '05

30 Nov '05

I have been asked to update OpenLDAP to the latest stable version. I am using CentOS 4.2 and have OpenLDAP 2.2.13 installed. I can install from source if I have to, but I would rather stay with rpm packages if possible. I found an rpm from Fedora Core Development on RPMFIND. Will this one work with Centos, or should I grab the source rpm and rebuild it? Bowie

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RE: [CentOS] why was LILO removed from centOS 4.2?
by Nielsen, Steve 30 Nov '05

30 Nov '05

I meant not a visible choice by default :). Thanks for the tip. I was not aware of making it visible in that way. So at the prompt you type: "boot: lilo" ? Steve -----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces(a)centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Karanbir Singh Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 9:14 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] why was LILO removed from centOS 4.2? Nielsen, Steve wrote: > lilo is still there. Its just not available as a choice in the install. yes it is available as an install option, you just need to ask anaconda for it ( boot the installer with 'lilo' as an option ) - K _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

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php 5.1.1
by Bob Pierce 30 Nov '05

30 Nov '05

I notice php 5.1.1 was released a few days ago. Are there any plans to include this new version in the centosplus repo for CentOS 4.2? Bob Pierce Systems Analyst Westman Communications Group pierceb(a)westmancom.com

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Is lsdev AWOL?
by Jerry W. Hubbard 30 Nov '05

30 Nov '05

I was looking at my newly installed CentOS 4.2 system with ls* commands yesterday and lsdev was not on the system. Did I miss installing a package? A Google search for CentOS 4.2 and lsdev was unhelpful. -- Jerry Hubbard hubbardjw(a)charter.net

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kernel panic this morning
by Jerry Geis 30 Nov '05

30 Nov '05

On 11/30/05, Jerry Geis <geisj at pagestation.com <http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos>> wrote: >/ When I came into work this morning the console had the following: />/ />/ bio_endio />/ __end_that_request_first />/ scsi_end_request />/ scsi_io_completion />/ scsi_finish_command />/ scsi_softirq />/ __do_softirq />/ do_softirg />/ do_irq />/ command_interrupt />/ default_idle />/ cpu_idle />/ start_kernel />/ />/ Panic />/ />Which version of CentOS ar you running? In CentOS 3/RHEL 3 the MD >subsystem has various race conditions (though this does not look like >the signature you would get from one of those panics). >Cheers...james Soory I forgot that I am running 4.2 with all current updates. jerry

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kernel panic this morning
by Jerry Geis 30 Nov '05

30 Nov '05

When I came into work this morning the console had the following: bio_endio __end_that_request_first scsi_end_request scsi_io_completion scsi_finish_command scsi_softirq __do_softirq do_softirg do_irq command_interrupt default_idle cpu_idle start_kernel Panic I am running software RAID-1 on this machine. I had 2 IDE disks and the machine when down once in a while with similiar messages. I switched to brand new 300 GIG SATA drives and now I am seeing the same kernel panic. What might be the problem here? THanks for any suggestions. Machine has 2 GIG RAM, Intel motherboard, Intel CPU 2.4 P4, "/" is 50 GIG, I have a 5 GIG Swap, and the rest is "/home". where / and /home are RAID-1 arrays. Jerry

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SELinux niggle
by Rob 30 Nov '05

30 Nov '05

Hi, I am not very experienced with SELinux and I have a problem which I can't track down. Any help would be really appreciated. I have an 'install everything' Centos 4.2 system which I am using as a workstation. Before anyone tells me off for installing everything, I have done this in order to get used to CentOS before using it on live servers. Anyway when I log into X (gnome, gdm) I start getting the following in /var/log/messages Nov 30 12:47:39 needme dbus: Can't send to audit system: USER_AVC pid=2916 uid=81 loginuid=-1 message=avc: denied { send_msg } for scontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t tcontext=user_u:system_r:initrc_t tclass=dbus Nov 30 12:48:10 needme last message repeated 7 times Nov 30 12:48:12 needme gconfd (MYUSERNAME-3780): Resolved address "xml:readwrite:/home/MYUSERNAME/.gconf" to a writable configuration source at position 0 Nov 30 12:48:15 needme dbus: Can't send to audit system: USER_AVC pid=2916 uid=81 loginuid=-1 message=avc: denied { send_msg } for scontext=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t tcontext=user_u:system_r:initrc_t tclass=dbus And it just keeps filling up my log file. I read James B. Byrne's post on the 15th about audit2allow but I don't believe that I should go fiddling with dbus. Wouldn't that just be shooting the messenger? I know that I wouldn't get these messages on a server because I wouldn't be running X, but I would like to understand what is going on and increase my confidence to admin SELinux properly. Thanks in advance Rob Watkin

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CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 9, Issue 16
by centos-announce-request＠centos.org 30 Nov '05

30 Nov '05

Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to centos-announce(a)centos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-announce-request(a)centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-announce-owner(a)centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest..." Today's Topics: 1. CEEA:2005-1130-1 CentOS 4 x86_64 horde - enhancement update (Extras Only) (Johnny Hughes) 2. CEEA:2005-1130-1 CentOS 4 i386 horde - enhancement update (Extras Only) (Johnny Hughes) 3. CEEA:2005-1130-2 CentOS 4 i386 drbd / heartbeat - enhancement update (Extras Only) (Johnny Hughes) 4. CEEA:2005-1130-2 CentOS 4 x86_64 drbd / heartbeat - enhancement update (Extras Only) (Johnny Hughes) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:48:42 -0600 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEEA:2005-1130-1 CentOS 4 x86_64 horde - enhancement update (Extras Only) To: CentOS-Announce <centos-announce(a)centos.org> Message-ID: <1133351322.12053.73.camel(a)myth.home.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" CentOS Errata and Enhancement Advisory 2005:1130-1 CentOS 4 x86_64 Horde - Enhancement Update (Extras Only) We are pleased to add the Horde Application Framework as well as the following horde projects to the CentOS extras repository: horde imp-h3 ingo-h3 kronolith-h3 mnemo-h3 nag-h3 gollem-h3 turba-h3 Horde is an full featured webmail system for your server, please see this link for details: http://www.horde.org/projects.php The install directory is /usr/share/horde with all the other applications in a separate directory under /usr/share/horde. Setup of each application is required per the on site instructions for each, starting with the horde application framework. http://www.horde.org/horde/docs/ ---------------------------- Installation of all horde applications can be done with the command: yum groupinstall Horde-Apps You may also choose to install individual applications only using yum like this: yum install horde imp-h3 ------------------------- The following files are added to the Extras repo and syncing to the mirrors: i386: gollem-h3-1.0-1.centos4.noarch.rpm horde-3.0.7-1.centos4.noarch.rpm imp-h3-4.0.4-1.centos4.noarch.rpm ingo-h3-1.0.2-1.centos4.noarch.rpm kronolith-h3-2.0.5-1.centos4.noarch.rpm mnemo-h3-2.0.2-1.centos4.noarch.rpm nag-h3-2.0.3-1.centos4.noarch.rpm turba-h3-2.0.4-1.centos4.noarch.rpm src: gollem-h3-1.0-1.centos4.src.rpm horde-3.0.7-1.centos4.src.rpm imp-h3-4.0.4-1.centos4.src.rpm ingo-h3-1.0.2-1.centos4.src.rpm kronolith-h3-2.0.5-1.centos4.src.rpm mnemo-h3-2.0.2-1.centos4.src.rpm nag-h3-2.0.3-1.centos4.src.rpm turba-h3-2.0.4-1.centos4.src.rpm

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Installation problems on old IBM server
by HaraldFinnås 30 Nov '05

30 Nov '05

I'm trying to install CentOS 4.2 on an old IBM x300 server, but it hangs during the boot from cd. The last entries I can see before it dies are the two "agpgart" lines. I've been playing around with bios settings (video settings and serial settings since the serial driver is the next thing going on in the kernel) and boot params (noapic, acpi=off etc) but I just can't get this thing up and running. It's been working like a charm (and still does) with CentOS 3. Any tips? Regards, Harald

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CentOS 4.2 issues
by Mickael Maddison 29 Nov '05

29 Nov '05

Hello CentOS, I've just taken 2 old servers running CentOS 3.x, wiped it out, and installed CentOS 4.1 The systems seemed to work fine with CentOS 4.1, but when I proceeded to run yum -y update, all the RPM's (101) download and seem to install fine - however, upon reboot, partitions such as /usr/ and /var will not mount (ext3). These machines both use the Intel S875WP1 P4 Mainboards. Both use SATA Drives. One uses the promise controller (which on install seems to find a suitable driver). Anyway, I've also tried installing directly from the CentOS 4.2 Server CD, same issue. Install goes fine, but bootup won't mount /var Any idea what this is all about? -- Best regards, Mickael mailto:centos@silverservers.com

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iscsi-tools
by Maarten van Lieshout 29 Nov '05

29 Nov '05

Hi, Is there a reason why the iscsi-initiator-utils from RHEL differs from the original linux-iscsi one? I miss the mount-all and umount-all scripts. Without these, how can you safely reboot your server??? You're going to run into problems if you reboot your server without first umounting the iscsi-drives. cheers, -- Maarten

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Re: [CentOS] A minor beef
by James B. Byrne 29 Nov '05

29 Nov '05

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:03:21 -0500, "Bryan J. Smith" <thebs413(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > Illegal redistribution is illegal redistribution. It's not > debatable. I would point out, tongue in cheek, that the practitioners of an entire profession make a very good living by assuming otherwise. Regards, Jim -- *** e-mail is not a secure channel *** mailto:byrnejb.<token>@harte-lyne.ca James B. Byrne Harte & Lyne Limited vox: +1 905 561 1241 9 Brockley Drive fax: +1 905 561 0757 Hamilton, Ontario <token> = hal Canada L8E 3C3

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kde-file manager su mode
by rado 29 Nov '05

29 Nov '05

hi y'all, ...realize that maybe I should go to kde w/this but then, I do run centos on my systems soooo... kk I like to run kde's file manager in super user mode. On one of my systems, it's acting it's ass...as my default editor I do use kwrite and I normally set that up to open any text type file w/that but for some reason, on this one certain system, I can't navigate among the folders. I double click on a folder as I normally do and it just throws me into kwrite instead on just navigating down the tree. Just wondering if any of y'all might have some ideas to correct this simply. I just can't seem to find the right config option to do it. thx John Rose -- ...and I woke up 2 days later in the back yard talking to Elvis!

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cdrecord Error (Permissions?)
by Alex White 28 Nov '05

28 Nov '05

List, Sorry to trouble anyone, a google on my error from k3b lead me to a permissions issue, but after searching through several of the links (including a few forums) I've failed to turn up exactly what the permissions should be or if that is even an accurate solution. When running k3b I get an error stating that cdrecord did not exit properly. And k3b will not burn a cd. Running cdrecord from the command line as such: /usr/bin/cdrecord -v gracetime=2 dev=/dev/hdd speed=40 -dao driveropts=burnfree -eject -data /home/fakeuser/cdimage.iso I am met with a Segmentation fault. There is no other error obviously. Any ideas? I'm running this as a regular user. Root does not encounter this problem. So the iso is perfectly fine. I am under the assumption that I inadvertently changed the permissions of cdrecord or somethin' else stupid happened. What permissions does cdrecord need to be run as a regular user or should I be using sudo to burn a cd using cdrecord anyhow? Should cdrecord be suid? Sorry to bother! Alex White

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wireless protection with mixed network and is AES or TKIP better or other??
by Robert 28 Nov '05

28 Nov '05

greetings in setting up a mixed network of CentOS, WinThings, Cisco, and more... i need a lil' feedback please re: practical wireless WPA settings... i always just used WPA PSK and TKIP by defauly (never thought about any issues here before, DUH!) yet i have done some reading while searching recently and it appeared to inform me that ummmm if using WPA-PSK that one should use AES instead of TKIP will i have issues/problems either way with installing CentOS in a wireless manner using AES or TKIP for that matter? again, most of this is about AES vs. TKIP from a engineering, performance, reliability and more standpoint... then of course CentOS integration etc... wisdom and comments from the list please? thank you in advance and kind regards, - rh -- Robert Hanson - Abba Communications Computer & Internet Services (509) 624-7159 - www.abbacomm.net

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DAG repo problem
by Dominik Składanowski 28 Nov '05

28 Nov '05

Hello list. Anybody noticed broken checksum in DAG repo? Since Saturday I can't update few packages from DAG repo. I tried other mirror - result the same: Transaction Summary ============================================================================= Install 0 Package(s) Update 17 Package(s) Remove 0 Package(s) Total download size: 5.0 M Is this ok [y/N]: y Downloading Packages: (1/1): perl-MIME-tools-5. 100% |=========================| 268 kB 00:04 http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el4/en/i386/dag/RPMS/perl-MIME-tools-5.418-1.2.el4.…: [Errno -1] Package does not match checksum Trying other mirror. Error Downloading Packages: perl-MIME-tools - 5.418-1.2.el4.rf.noarch: failure: RPMS/perl-MIME-tools-5.418-1.2.el4.rf.noarch.rpm from dag: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. Regards -- ____________________________________________________________________ D o m i n i k S k ł a d a n o w s k i

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CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 9, Issue 15
by centos-announce-request＠centos.org 28 Nov '05

28 Nov '05

Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to centos-announce(a)centos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-announce-request(a)centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-announce-owner(a)centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest..." Today's Topics: 1. CEEA:2005-1127-1 CentOS 4 i386 XFCE 4.2 - enhancement update (Extras Only) (Johnny Hughes) 2. CEEA:2005-1127-1 CentOS 4 x86_64 XFCE 4.2 - enhancement update (Extras Only) (Johnny Hughes) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:16:54 -0600 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEEA:2005-1127-1 CentOS 4 i386 XFCE 4.2 - enhancement update (Extras Only) To: CentOS-Announce <centos-announce(a)centos.org> Message-ID: <1133122614.32526.33.camel(a)myth.home.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" CentOS Errata and Enhancement Advisory 2005:1127-1 CentOS 4 i386 XFCE - Enhancement Update (Extras Only) This update is for the version of XFCE is that is included in the Extras repo for CentOS-4 ... this is not an update to the main CentOS-4 repo. The XFCE-4.2 desktop environment is being upgraded from 4.2.1 to 4.2.3. There are some new features added including xfcalendar and xfce4-mixer. This version is based on the XFCE-4 sources that are included in Fedora Core (tm) 4 extras and will continue to track against that version throughout it's lifetime. The older version that this update replaces was from Fedora Core (tm) 3 sources. The following files are updated and syncing to the mirrors: i386: dbh-1.0.24-1.c4.i386.rpm dbh-devel-1.0.24-1.c4.i386.rpm gtk-xfce-engine-2.2.8-1.c4.i386.rpm libxfce4mcs-4.2.3-1.c4.i386.rpm libxfce4mcs-devel-4.2.3-1.c4.i386.rpm libxfce4util-4.2.3.2-1.c4.i386.rpm libxfce4util-devel-4.2.3.2-1.c4.i386.rpm libxfcegui4-4.2.3-2.c4.i386.rpm libxfcegui4-devel-4.2.3-2.c4.i386.rpm xfcalendar-4.2.3-1.c4.i386.rpm xfce4-appfinder-4.2.3-1.c4.i386.rpm xfce4-iconbox-4.2.3-1.c4.i386.rpm xfce4-icon-theme-4.2.3-1.c4.noarch.rpm xfce4-mixer-4.2.3-1.c4.i386.rpm xfce4-panel-4.2.3-1.c4.i386.rpm xfce4-panel-devel-4.2.3-1.c4.i386.rpm xfce4-session-4.2.3-1.c4.i386.rpm xfce4-session-devel-4.2.3-1.c4.i386.rpm xfce4-session-engines-4.2.3-1.c4.i386.rpm xfce4-systray-4.2.3-1.c4.i386.rpm xfce4-toys-4.2.3-1.c4.i386.rpm xfce4-trigger-launcher-4.2.3-1.c4.i386.rpm xfce-mcs-manager-4.2.3-1.c4.i386.rpm xfce-mcs-manager-devel-4.2.3-1.c4.i386.rpm xfce-mcs-plugins-4.2.3-1.c4.i386.rpm xfce-utils-4.2.3-1.c4.i386.rpm xfdesktop-4.2.3-1.c4.i386.rpm xffm-4.2.3-1.c4.i386.rpm xfprint-4.2.3-1.c4.i386.rpm xfwm4-4.2.3.2-1.c4.i386.rpm xfwm4-themes-4.2.3-1.c4.noarch.rpm src: dbh-1.0.24-1.c4.src.rpm gtk-xfce-engine-2.2.8-1.c4.src.rpm libxfce4mcs-4.2.3-1.c4.src.rpm libxfce4util-4.2.3.2-1.c4.src.rpm libxfcegui4-4.2.3-2.c4.src.rpm xfcalendar-4.2.3-1.c4.src.rpm xfce4-appfinder-4.2.3-1.c4.src.rpm xfce4-iconbox-4.2.3-1.c4.src.rpm xfce4-icon-theme-4.2.3-1.c4.src.rpm xfce4-mixer-4.2.3-1.c4.src.rpm xfce4-panel-4.2.3-1.c4.src.rpm xfce4-session-4.2.3-1.c4.src.rpm xfce4-systray-4.2.3-1.c4.src.rpm xfce4-toys-4.2.3-1.c4.src.rpm xfce4-trigger-launcher-4.2.3-1.c4.src.rpm xfce-mcs-manager-4.2.3-1.c4.src.rpm xfce-mcs-plugins-4.2.3-1.c4.src.rpm xfce-utils-4.2.3-1.c4.src.rpm xfdesktop-4.2.3-1.c4.src.rpm xffm-4.2.3-1.c4.src.rpm xfprint-4.2.3-1.c4.src.rpm xfwm4-4.2.3.2-1.c4.src.rpm xfwm4-themes-4.2.3-1.c4.src.rpm

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Problem enabling write-back cache for IBM ServeRAID controller in CENTOS 4.2
by Radu Radutiu 28 Nov '05

28 Nov '05

Hi, I have just upgraded an IBM Xseries x225 server to CentOS 4.2 (from CentOS 3.6) and found out that write back cache is not enabled for the drive representing the RAID array. The RAID controller has 128 MB battery backed cache. Write back cache is enabled in the controller configuration (using the IBM boot cd) and verified using the IBM RaidManager utility, but the boot messages show that the cache setup is write-through instead of write-back. scsi0 : IBM PCI ServeRAID 7.10.18 Build 731 <ServeRAID 6i> Vendor: IBM Model: SERVERAID Rev: 1.00 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 SCSI device sda: 213288960 512-byte hdwr sectors (109204 MB) SCSI device sda: drive cache: write through sda: sda1 sda2 If I boot CentOS 3.6 in rescue mode I have write back cache enabled. I have tried to use the sdparm utility to enable write back cache but it says that this parameter is not changeable. sdparm --get=WCE /dev/sda -6 /dev/sda: IBM SERVERAID 1.00 WCE 0 [Changeable: n, def: 0, saved: 0] I have looked at the ips module parameters but none seem to affect the write cache. Any ideas how to enable write back cache? Thanks, Radu

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centos4.2:raid1:grub
by rado 28 Nov '05

28 Nov '05

Hi! Whew, I have googled around a lot w/this but can't quite seem to come up w/the right answer. This system works beautifully w/nothing wrong w/it. But my goal is to be able to test the raid system by just unplugging hda to mimic a faulty drive and have it just carry on and boot from hdc. md0 = hda1/hdc1 /boot (primary boot partitions on both drives) md1 = hda2/hdc2 / is it possible to just edit /boot/grub.conf??? I am really not sure of this Thx in advance. John Rose

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kernel rpm with imq support
by mbneto 28 Nov '05

28 Nov '05

Hi, I was wondering if anyone mantains a Centos kernel* with IMQ patches applied. I need to use some features to control traffic (QoS) not available with the regular kernel Regards, mb

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centos4.2 -raid 1 and grub
by Jerry Geis 27 Nov '05

27 Nov '05

I had this little shell script. Use at your own risk... Jerry --------- # To load a blank drive with the old partition information use the command: # sfdisk /dev/hda < /etc/silentm/raidinfo.partitions.hda # The following command will setup the passed argument to boot in case the main disk is faulty # $1 is either /dev/hdb or /dev/sdb grub_setup_scsi() { grub << EOF find /boot/grub/stage1 device (hd0) /dev/sdb root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) EOF } grub_setup_ide() { grub << EOF find /boot/grub/stage1 device (hd0) /dev/hdb root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) EOF } DISK_TYPE=`fdisk -l /dev/hda | grep "/dev/hda"` if [ "$DISK_TYPE" = "" ] then echo "Assuming SCSI drives" sfdisk -d /dev/sda > /etc/silentm/raidinfo.partitions.sda sfdisk -d /dev/sdb > /etc/silentm/raidinfo.partitions.sdb grub_setup_scsi else echo "Assuming IDE drives" sfdisk -d /dev/hda > /etc/silentm/raidinfo.partitions.hda sfdisk -d /dev/hdb > /etc/silentm/raidinfo.partitions.hdb grub_setup_ide fi

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OT - redirection script help
by Thomas E Dukes 27 Nov '05

27 Nov '05

Hello, Sorry to ask an off topic question but I know there are people on this list that can help or point me in the right direction. I will be moving a website in a few days and want to have it redirected to the new url. I know how to do this but I would like to have it have a countdown on the page. I know everyone has seen this before, does anyone know how to set this up? I have looked for this on hotscripts.com but I may not be looking in the right category. Any help would be appreciated.

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Evolution Filters
by Lee W 27 Nov '05

27 Nov '05

Hi, I have just switched from using Thunderbird to Evolution on Centos 4.2 for my IMAP email and seem to be having problems with the filters. The filters I have created a really simple, such as checking for the [CentOS] in the subject line of this lists postings. The filters don't however get applied automatically, I have to select all the message in the inbox and manually select "Apply Filters" at which point all the messages get filtered correctly. I have made sure that the "Apply filters to new message in INBOX on this Server" is selected but it doesn't make any difference. Can someone advise if Evolution is supposed to work this way (as I have come to expect from Thunderbird) or is it correct that I have to apply the filters manually for IMAP folders. Thanks in advance Lee

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Start scripts ordering
by Phil Savoie 27 Nov '05

27 Nov '05

Hi All, Was wondering if you could help me out. At work we are running CentOS 4.2 as our mailserver/firewall. The script in question is /etc/rc3.d/S08iptables. As this starts before the network adapters are set up, it hoses our iptables script resulting in denying our internal hosts internet access. What I would like to do is mv the script to /etc/rc3.d/S11iptables so the the interfaces are up and then the iptables script kicks in. It is in this way that we find it works best for us. However on a reboot we found that the "system" moved the script back to it's original name of /etc/rc3.d/S08iptables. How would I "tell the system" to keep the script named as /etc/rc3.d/S11iptables so that it does not automatically rename it back to /etc/rc3.d/S08iptables? Thank you in advance, Phil

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Quota and Squirrelmail
by Alain Reguera 26 Nov '05

26 Nov '05

Hello, I have CentOS with quotas installed and make the users read their mails through squirrelmail. So I've been applied quotas in 2 partition, one for home, and other for /var/spool/mail/ directory. the problem is when the quota is over, the inbox in squirrelmail is locked so the user can't delete their mails and free the space. And all is frozen for them. Don't know If the question is in the right place. But could you suggest something. Any thing would be very appreciated. Thanks for your time.

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webmaster in mqueue
by John Hinton 26 Nov '05

26 Nov '05

Anybody finding a huge mailfile named webmaster in their mqueue? I'm wondering what/how this gets there? Just found one on one server that was over 2 gigs! Yuck!!! So far, this has been on CentOS 3 machines using sendmail. Best, John Hinton

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kernel load 40-50%?
by Alberto 26 Nov '05

26 Nov '05

Is there any command to view what kernel is doing when I have a high kernel/system load??

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Re: [CentOS] A minor beef
by James B. Byrne 26 Nov '05

26 Nov '05

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 21:30:26 -0500, "Bryan J. Smith" <thebs413(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > You were paying $1,000/year for RHEL ES??? As I recall it was in the $700.00 USD range which amounted to over $1,000.00 CAD per year at that time. And that was with the discount that RH gave to early adopters of their new support programs when we were forced off of our previous plan with the depreciation of RH9 (at ~$60.00 USD per host per year). However, I might be confusing the renewal price with what we actually paid while on RH support. In any case, the final cost in the second and subsequent years was over the magic three figure limit. Perhaps if you have hundreds or thousands of machines then RH might offer attractive bulk discounts, but for companies with just a handful of servers the cost of RH update support was made unbearable. I see now that there is a Basic level of support available from RH, which I do not recall as being offered originally. This presently costs $349.00 USD or about $410.00 CAD per host per year and I suppose that this service is equivalent to what CentOS provides in effect. To create a local mirror for RH updates without paying the per host fee is, of course, a violation of the contracted support agreement. One is compelled to place each host on contract, go without support for some hosts, or pay a tremendous sum of money for the privilege of maintaining a local mirror. To put RH pricing in perspective, I just installed a 2.8Ghz P4 server with a DVD DL super-mode burner, 250Gb of disc and 2Gb of RAM for less than $600.00 CAD. As I wrote earlier CentOS, at ~$25.00 (CAD) per host, is a bargain in comparison to RH. The minuscule degree of delay in updates between RH and CentOS hardly bears serious consideration in the matter. I suppose that if you have a government regulator on your back about some security issue or other then one might find a certain legal solace in pointing to a subscribed service as evidence of due diligence. Then again, our federal government requires us to use an application written only for the now depreciated and unavailable Microsoft JVM and supports it only under MS-IE 5.5 running on a pre- XP version of MS-Windows. So, go figure. (It runs, so far, under a fully patched MS-IE 6, but that is not the supported platform.) Regards, Jim -- *** e-mail is not a secure channel *** mailto:byrnejb.<token>@harte-lyne.ca James B. Byrne Harte & Lyne Limited vox: +1 905 561 1241 9 Brockley Drive fax: +1 905 561 0757 Hamilton, Ontario <token> = hal Canada L8E 3C3

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rdnc error
by Thomas E Dukes 26 Nov '05

26 Nov '05

Hello, I noticed in my logwatch file I have an error with my rndc key. I could 'play' around with it and may fix it but most likey just hose things up. I think I see the problem but not 100% sure. I think the key file has 3 different names. Here's the error: **Unmatched Entries** /etc/named.conf:23: couldn't find key 'rndckey' for use with command channel 127.0.0.1#953: 1 Time(s) Here's parts of the relevant files: named.conf: controls { inet 127.0.0.1 allow { localhost; } keys { rndckey; }; include "/etc/rndc.key"; <-- does not match above -------------------------------------------------------------- rdnc.conf: options { default-server localhost; default-key "rndckey"; }; server localhost { key "rndckey"; }; key "rndckey" { algorithm hmac-md5; secret "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; }; ---------------------------------------------------------------- rdnc.key: key "rndc-key" { <----- yet another name for the key algorithm hmac-md5; secret "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; }; ----------------------------------------------------------------- Anyone know what the simpliest solution would be? TIA

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Re: [CentOS] A minor beef
by James B. Byrne 26 Nov '05

26 Nov '05

On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 14:06:34 -0500, Bryan J. Smith" <thebs413(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > But if you find yourself having repeat issues, and it is really > important to you, I have to suggest you consider paying Red Hat. I > know some here might disagree, but I have to at least say it. However, in my case I arrived at CentOS via Whitebox after giving up on paid support from RH on ES3. They were nice enough people, but I have had fewer problems getting updates from CentOS and have obtained equally helpful support here as I ever did from RH; for only $25.00 USD per box per year vs. ~$1000.00 per box per year. As my experience with RH is not yet a year old I very much doubt that there has been much change for the better. Sometimes you do not get what you pay for; and when you do not then it is better to have paid little than much. Regards, Jim -- *** e-mail is not a secure channel *** mailto:byrnejb.<token>@harte-lyne.ca James B. Byrne Harte & Lyne Limited vox: +1 905 561 1241 9 Brockley Drive fax: +1 905 561 0757 Hamilton, Ontario <token> = hal Canada L8E 3C3

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SELinux local policy addition
by James B. Byrne 25 Nov '05

25 Nov '05

When the latest version of CentOS4.2 boots I get an avc error for portmap. Audit2allow suggests this as a cure: allow portmap_t etc_runtime_t:file read; Any issues that come to mind to anyone regarding adding this to /etc/selinux/targeted/src/policy/domains/misc/local.te and reloading? Regards, Jim P.S. I am a digest subscriber. The favour of a direct reply is requested in addition to any to the list. -- *** e-mail is not a secure channel *** mailto:byrnejb.<token>@harte-lyne.ca James B. Byrne Harte & Lyne Limited vox: +1 905 561 1241 9 Brockley Drive fax: +1 905 561 0757 Hamilton, Ontario <token> = hal Canada L8E 3C3

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New "Managing Software with yum" guide
by Johnny Hughes 25 Nov '05

25 Nov '05

There is a new "Managing Software with yum" guide that has been added to our documents section. http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/docs/html/yum/ It is based on the excellent document written by Stuart Ellis for the Fedora Core(R) website: http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/index.html Thanks, Johnny Hughes

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Where to look or command
by Sam Drinkard 25 Nov '05

25 Nov '05

List, I've got a process(s) that have been exiting on a signal 11, but not all the time. I suspect it's memory related, and I was wondering, is there any way to tell exactly how much memory a particular process has in use at the point it sigsev's ? I can't sit here and watch top or the system monitor, but thought maybe something might be saved somewhere after the fact. The processes are using at the moment, 1.4gb of memory and no swap. I've not seen swap go active during any of this process run, and the machine has 2 GB memory installed. Rather hard to trace down the exact activity when it happens. Thanks.. -- Snowman

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Re: [CentOS] Where to look or command
by Brian T. Brunner 25 Nov '05

25 Nov '05

B.T.D.T! catch the signal in a handler of your own, do analysis as needed, then clean up and exit (saving a core file if you need one). AIUI, the signal handler runs in the space of the process/thread that hit the trap. Brian Brunner brian.t.brunner(a)gai-tronics.com (610)796-5838 >>> sam(a)wa4phy.net 11/25/05 10:47AM >>> List, I've got a process(s) that have been exiting on a signal 11, but not all the time. I suspect it's memory related, and I was wondering, is there any way to tell exactly how much memory a particular process has in use at the point it sigsegv's ? ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated

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CentOS 4 - libgd.so.1.8
by Tom Brown 25 Nov '05

25 Nov '05

Hi I need to get libgd.so.1.8 onto a CentOS 4 system - Currently its at 4.2 and i see that this is in package gd1.x however for CentOS 4 there is only gd2.x How can i get this lib ? thanks

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boot with more scsi card
by Farkas Levente 25 Nov '05

25 Nov '05

hi, we've got a server with a 8 port 3ware card and 2 ide system disks. now we'd like to replace the ide disks with scsi disks or sata disks (these also recognized as scsi in the kernel). but we can't boot from it. the problem are twofold. first in the normal case the first scsi host scsi0 id the 3ware card, but grub only see the first 8 disk so if the system disk are sdi and sdj the one can't boot from it. on the other hand if one disk is removed from the 3ware card or the kernel reorder the scsi disk and sdi become sdh which is also a problem both for the bios and for the kernel. if i change the order in bios, the kernel still use as 3ware scsi0. if i use scsihosts kernel param or load the scsi driver (through modprobe.conf) in a reverse order then the kernel hang forever during the initialization of the 3ware driver. any tip? thanks in advance. yours. centos 4.2 kernel-2.6.9-22.0.1.EL 3w_xxxx 1.26.00.039 -- Levente "Si vis pacem para bellum!"

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which script will run before and after network started
by Robin Mordasiewicz 25 Nov '05

25 Nov '05

Is there a script which I can customize which will run before doing service network stop and a script which I can run after doing service network start I see that /sbin/ifup-local runs after each interface is brought up, but I cannot figure out which scripts will run after all the interfaces are brought up.

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Request rewriting - regular expressions
by Tom Brown 24 Nov '05

24 Nov '05

OK not directly CentOS this one but.... I'm trying to write a rewrite rule that uses the same(tm) syntax as apache mod_rewrite (or at least it understands it) The following works by catching ANY url comfigured in the web server and rewriting it with the correct http status code. The issue is that i need to redirest URL1 to 1st location and URL2 to second location and i'm trying to get my match syntax correct. Can anyone advise on the reg expression that would distinguish betweek URL1 and URL2 thanks! match URL into $ with ^/$ if matched then set SCRATCH:LOC = http://www.example.com/en/homepage.html set Response = 302 set OUT:Location = %{SCRATCH:LOC} set OUT:Content-Type = text/html set Body = set Body = This page has moved, please visit <ahref="http://www.example.com">here</a> instead. endif

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samba windows 2000 and windows 2003
by Peter Farrow 24 Nov '05

24 Nov '05

Dear All, I have two AD domains, one running on Windows 2000 and one running on Windows 2003. Each with XP clients, and no trust. Ihave a linux file server running samba 3 on Centos 4.2, the smb.conf file specifies that security=server, and points the password server to the operations master on the Windows 2000 domain. All clients and 2000 servers on the Windows 2000 domain, (xp or otherwise) can access the smb shares on the linux box no problem. The windows 2003 server and XP clients on that domain cannot, first time round they receive the error "The request is not supported", after adding this: client signing = auto to my smb.conf file I get the error "the filename, directory name or volume label syntax is incorrect." I tried disabling packet signing on the win2k3 box group policy - it made no difference. I disconnect the linux server from using the windows 2000 server as a password server and setup up separate smb accounts and it works fine from the win2k3 box. I believe this is something to do with packet signing but just cant seem to find out the problem. I fixed this on a previous linux server the other way round (mounting 2k3 on Linux, but can't remember how I did it), I note that that server has a /proc/fs/cifs directory where I can kill packet signing, but the new server with the current problem does not. However I don't recall installing cifs nor does it seem to be on the older server. Any ideas? Pete

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trimming CentOS - flash disk
by mbneto 24 Nov '05

24 Nov '05

Hi, I am switching a few specific servers with CentOS 4.2 and I'd like to use in some a flash disk (CF card). Unfortunately the minimum size of a centos install seems to be around 600 Mb (at least that's what I got) and 1 Gb card are still expensive and, IMHO too big if all you want is a gateway/iptables machine or a NFS server. There are other OSes and even distros that have a smaller footprint (way down to 60 Mb), and I am not talking about those 'embedded' distros like monowall, openwrt etc. I was wondering if there is a quick way to reduce the size and if there is a "slim process" in the works to do that.

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RE: [CentOS] Frontpage Extensions
by Bob Pierce 24 Nov '05

24 Nov '05

William, The package from nuonce.net sounds interesting. But if that doesn't work for you, the extensions from Ready To Run do work on Centos4.2. We just finished putting together a hosting server with FP extensions on Centos4.2. Although there are a few initial headaches with configuring everything properly most of the tips we needed came from the ready2run site. If you run into specific problems feel free to ask. Our server's been working good for a few months now. We just have to be careful about the permissions on /var/log/httpd/fpcgisock after yum updates. Bob. -----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces(a)centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Doug Ferrell Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 7:36 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: RE: [CentOS] Frontpage Extensions -----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces(a)centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org]On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 12:43 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Frontpage Extensions On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 20:35 -0500, William Warren wrote: > Where can ig et frontpage extensions to install on my centos_4 server? > REady to run's don't mention RHEL anywhere. > Microsoft has discontinued them on their server products. The last system I installed them on was a RH 7.3 system for a local ISP that had a drive meltdown. I don't even know if they work with Apache 2.0. Paul You can try here: http://www.nuonce.net/bq-frontpage.php ...DOUG _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

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Where is the proper place to set the group ownership of devices under /dev/ in Centos3.
by Alexander Georgiev 24 Nov '05

24 Nov '05

Dear list members, I have a DVD writer /dev/scd0 which after reboot has the following ACL: brw-rw---- 1 root disk 11, 0 Sep 9 2004 /dev/scd0 However I want to set this device group to "Domain Users" in order to enable its members to burn DVDs. If i invoke: #chgroup "Domain Users" /dev/scd0 the next reboot will override the group back to "disk". Is there a standard/reglamented way to set the group ownership of a device file. Best regards! ageorgiev

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Frontpage Extensions
by William Warren 24 Nov '05

24 Nov '05

Where can ig et frontpage extensions to install on my centos_4 server? REady to run's don't mention RHEL anywhere. -- My "Foundation" verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape" CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/

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Apache with mod_perl rpm query..
by Sanjay Arora 24 Nov '05

24 Nov '05

Any repository maintaining Apache rpm with mod_perl for CentOS? How do I maintain rpm installs from repos and also maintain ability to use various mods that I would like to use? Or do I have to ./configure ;-) With regards. Sanjay.

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CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 9, Issue 14
by centos-announce-request＠centos.org 24 Nov '05

24 Nov '05

Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to centos-announce(a)centos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-announce-request(a)centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-announce-owner(a)centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest..." Today's Topics: 1. CentOS 4.2 Server CD - x86_64 Released (Karanbir Singh) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 11:03:03 +0000 From: Karanbir Singh <kbsingh(a)centos.org> Subject: [CentOS-announce] CentOS 4.2 Server CD - x86_64 Released To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Message-ID: <43859DE7.9030001(a)centos.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The single CD Server edition of CentOS 4.2/x86_64 has now been released. It lets you setup a basic CentOS 4 system along with the server components. Anything else that is needed can then be installed via yum or up2date once the system is running. The resulting installed system is identical to a normal CentOS 4 install ( with yum and up2date ). Download the ServerCD from /centos/4/isos/x86_64/ directory on your local mirror or pickup the torrent. List of mirrors at http://www.centos.org/mirrors . The torrent is at http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/isos/x86_64/CentOS-4.2.ServerCD-x86_64.to… We appreciate all feedback ( via http://bugs.centos.org/ ), including RFE's and bug notifications. Enjoy!

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Warnings for package kernel-2.6.9-22.0.1.106.unsupported
by Collins Richey 24 Nov '05

24 Nov '05

FYI, During my bi-weekly yum update, I noted the following warnings. Warnings during kernel update kernel-2.6.9-22.0.1.106.unsupported WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.9-22.0.1.106.unsupported/kernel/fs/afs/kafs.ko needs unknown symbol afs_key_unregister WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.9-22.0.1.106.unsupported/kernel/fs/afs/kafs.ko needs unknown symbol afs_key_register Is this anything to worry about? If I read this right, the error is for AFS, and I could care less whether AFS works or not. -- Collins Richey Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code ... If you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. -Brian Kernighan

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FUSE/SSHFS RPM Packages.
by Camron W. Fox 24 Nov '05

24 Nov '05

Alle, Does anyone know if there are any reputable repositories out there that contain packages for fuse/sshfs? Best Regards, Camron -- Camron W. Fox Hilo Office High Performance Computing Group Fujitsu America, INC. E-mail: cwfox(a)us.fujitsu.com

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[Hardware] Good Server I/O on-the-cheap: ASL Monarch 811x with CentOS 4.2 ...
by Bryan J. Smith 24 Nov '05

24 Nov '05

Since good server designs have come up in the past, I wanted to point out a "low-cost" server option that has good I/O, and the vendor offers _your_choice_ of not only Fedora Core or Red Hat Enterprise Linux, but _also_ CentOS _shipped_ with it! IN-A-NUTSHELL ... Starting at just over $750, you can get a single Socket-939 Opteron 1xx (dual-core is an option) system with up to 4GiB of ECC (but non- registered) DDR SDRAM, up to 4 hot-swap SATA bays (8114 model), one PCI- X slot (perfect for a 3Ware card, which they _do_ support ;-) and dual on-board GbE Broadcom NICs -- all in a 1U rackmount form-factor. The resulting I/O performance is excellent at the price-point for those that want a good server I/O well beyond typical "desktop/workstation" but for around the same price. The 4 hot-swap drive configuration, with a decent amount of RAM, 3Ware card with the 4 drives in RAID-10 or 5, and, most importantly, with CentOS 4.2 shipped runs just a little over $2K. Not really much more than an equivalent "self-assembled desktop" you might be able to put together, while being a heck of a lot better in interconnect configuration and resulting server performance. ASL Monarch 8110/8114/8115 (Left Column): http://www.aslab.com/products/storage/monarch.html NOW THE TECHNOBABLE I'M INFAMOUS FOR ... ASL Monarch Series, 811x with ServerWorks HT1000 Chipset I haven't purchased anything from ASL in years, but back when I was working in the semiconductor industry, the sysadmin at Transmeta turned me on to them. The really know their hardware and Linux compatibility, and they have been shipping products with 3Ware for years. They are now shipping their Monarch 811x series of products (not to be confused with a _separate_ vendor called Monarch Computer Systems ;-) with the Broadcom ServerWorks HT1000 chipset: http://www.broadcom.com/products/Enterprise-Small-Office/SystemI-O-Chips/HT… The ServerWorks HT1000 is rarely found without the HT2000, hence why you typically only find them in dual or quad socket boxen. And that combination competes against serverboards with the AMD8131/8132, which are also typically only found in dual or quad socket boxen. The number of channels, traces, etc... is why it's never cost-effective to make a single processor with an AMD8131. But in the case of the single chip HT1000 on its own -- with dual-GbE NICs and a single PCI-X channel, plusall legacy PC peripherals logic necessary, it _was_ designed to be standalone. So if I had to guess from the specs, the mainboard is the SuperMicro H8SSL-i (although I have not confirmed it): http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron/HT1000/H8SSL-i.cfm The H8SSL-i is _not_ available via retail channels, only select OEMs. So you can't just go out and buy it. Unless you just want a 2 SATA drive version (the 8110 or 14" shallow 8115), the 8114 offers up to 4 SATA hot-swap bays in a sub-20" deep 1U rackmount: http://www.aslab.com/products/storage/monarch8114.html They seem to be supporting the latest 3Ware Escalade 9550SX, which it too new to trust IMHO. But if they feel differently, I'd trust them. At the same time, it wouldn't surprise me if they'd sell it with a Escalade 8506 series instead -- which I do trust (especially since with only 4 drives, I'd probably create a RAID-10 volume), and only default to the 9550SX because most customers want RAID-5. -- Bryan J. Smith b.j.smith(a)ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- For everything else *COUGH*commercials*COUGH* there's "ManningCard"

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