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What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?
by Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming 21 Oct '18

21 Oct '18

Good afternoon from Singapore, What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros? Is systemd implemented in all the latest Linux distros? Please advise. Thank you. ===BEGIN SIGNATURE=== Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic Qualifications as at 30 Oct 2017 [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/ [2] http://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/ [3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming ===END SIGNATURE===

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Re: [CentOS] Upstream and downstream (was Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?)
by Brendan Conoboy 21 Oct '18

21 Oct '18

On Fri Oct 19 00:52:12 UTC 2018 Japheth Cleaver wrote: > This brings to mind a video I was pointed to not long ago of Brendan > Conoboy's talk at a Dojo recently: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQsUdLPJW20 Hey, that's me! Hi. By the way, Jim Perrin did an updated version of this talk *today* at CERN in my absence (thanks Jim!). Hopefully the video will be posted soon. I expect we'll be doing updated versions of these at Devconf, future Dojos, etc- as things progress. > For quite a long time, many (perhaps most) folks had assumed that > Fedora functioned more or less directly as the internal alpha for > RHEL, with a branch at some point occurring, followed by pruning > of packages, hardening, vendor testing, and release. This is roughly true for new releases (plus or minus the kernel), but not for subsequent minor release updates. It is a shame because so much great work happens in Fedora between major RHEL releases. > Subsequently, > CentOS (even after the RH integration) functioned *strictly* as a > clean-room downstream rebuild, with the ability to do unsupported > things, like alternate architectures, or heavier kernels, restricted > to what could be done while maintaining a 100% binary compatible > rebuild. Any contributions back up where taken to be incidental, > from CentOS users reporting bugs that could be verified against RHEL. > > Conoboy, on the other hand, takes great pains during the speech to > describe a much more fluid and complex interaction between CentOS > and its upstream, and puts forth CentOS as a mechanism (perhaps > the best mechanism) for the winder EL community to contribute > (something?) back into RHEL's future. He also gives clear signals > that various Fedora steps have been in directions that Red Hat did > not want EL necessarily going, and that the simplistic assumptions > we've commonly been making aren't really correct. You might be reading into this more than is there. It's not so much that things are fluid as it is that they are undefined. There is no clear, consistent way for a member of the Fedora or CentOS communities, who create something great, to have that thing make its way into an update of an existing RHEL major release. Defining that path, making it possible, would be win for all. > Obviously, there seems to be a bit of a discrepancy there. > > The wider EL community is trapped between a rock and a hard place > somewhat. If you try to direct Fedora into the needs of EL users, > you stand a good chance of getting told to pound stand, and that > EL is getting in the way of bleeding-edge progress. Traditionally, > CentOS has had its hands tied since it aims to be 100% compatible > with upstream. Red Hat (and Red-Hat-as-a-sponsor-of-CentOS) might > do well to clarify just what type of back-and-forth it wants out of > the wider EL-using community. Does it want direct feedback in the > form of tickets? Should people form SIGs? Obviously RHEL7 is not > changing init systems, but where should one talk about the future? Man, it breaks my heart when I read things like this. There might be some historic truth to the above, but it doesn't have to be the future. The objective I mentioned near the end of the talk has been posted, but not yet voted on: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pfrields/Lifecycle_Objective The beauty of community is that it can grow and shift according to the needs of its members. To me it looks like the lifecycle objective may be a partial answer to how Fedora, RHEL, and CentOS communities can reach a state of fluidity, a virtuous cycle. The thing that makes it the most likely to succeed is if members of the Fedora, RHEL, and CentOS communities work on it together. I hope those reading this who are interested in that join in. -- Brendan Conoboy / RHEL Development Coordinator / Red Hat, Inc.

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No searchable archives for this mailing list?
by Kay Schenk 19 Oct '18

19 Oct '18

Hello all-- I can't seem to find a way to search the archives of this list right now though I DO remember doing that in the past. Any ideas? Thanks. -- Kay

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Can't access Samba shares from Nautilus
by Nicolas Kovacs 19 Oct '18

19 Oct '18

Hi, I'm currently experimenting with Samba on a few sandbox machines. On the server side, I have setup CentOS 7 with a basic Samba setup and two shares, one public, the other password-protected. I have two Windows 7 boxes in my network, and I can access the shares perfectly, log in to the password-protected share, read and write files, so this seems to work OK. On my main Linux workstation (CentOS 7 + custom GNOME) I can't seem to access these shares. When I click on the "Parcourir le réseau" ("Browse network") icon in GNOME, Nautilus opens and shows a "Réseau Windows" ("Windows network") icon. Clicking on this icon, I only get the following error message: "Impossible d'accéder à l'emplacement". Unable to access this place. So I fire up GNOME Terminal and see what this looks like on the command line : [kikinovak@alphamule:~] $ smbclient -L //amandine -N Anonymous login successful Sharename Type Comment --------- ---- ------- Public Disk Partage Public Confidentiel Disk Partage Confidentiel IPC$ IPC IPC Service (Serveur de fichiers AMANDINE) Reconnecting with SMB1 for workgroup listing. Anonymous login successful Server Comment --------- ------- Workgroup Master --------- ------- WORKGROUP AMANDINE So far, so good. Now I try to connect as a user: [kikinovak@alphamule:~] $ smbclient //amandine/Confidentiel -U kikinovak Enter SAMBA\kikinovak's password: Try "help" to get a list of possible commands. smb: \> dir . D 0 Fri Oct 19 09:45:37 2018 .. D 0 Fri Oct 19 08:47:34 2018 Lighthouse.jpg N 561276 Tue Jul 14 07:32:31 2009 Jellyfish.jpg N 775702 Tue Jul 14 07:32:31 2009 Desert.jpg N 845941 Tue Jul 14 07:32:31 2009 Koala.jpg N 780831 Tue Jul 14 07:32:31 2009 Hydrangeas.jpg N 595284 Tue Jul 14 07:32:31 2009 Tulips.jpg N 620888 Tue Jul 14 07:32:31 2009 Penguins.jpg N 777835 Tue Jul 14 07:32:31 2009 Chrysanthemum.jpg N 879394 Tue Jul 14 07:32:31 2009 149030696 blocks of size 1024. 139929224 blocks available smb: \> This also looks good. Now let's check what Samba-related packages are installed on my workstation: [kikinovak@alphamule:~] $ rpm -qa | grep samba samba-client-libs-4.7.1-6.el7.x86_64 samba-client-4.7.1-6.el7.x86_64 samba-common-4.7.1-6.el7.noarch samba-common-libs-4.7.1-6.el7.x86_64 [kikinovak@alphamule:~] $ rpm -qa | grep gvfs gvfs-mtp-1.30.4-5.el7.x86_64 gvfs-smb-1.30.4-5.el7.x86_64 gvfs-afp-1.30.4-5.el7.x86_64 gvfs-client-1.30.4-5.el7.x86_64 gvfs-1.30.4-5.el7.x86_64 gvfs-archive-1.30.4-5.el7.x86_64 gvfs-goa-1.30.4-5.el7.x86_64 gvfs-fuse-1.30.4-5.el7.x86_64 gvfs-gphoto2-1.30.4-5.el7.x86_64 gvfs-afc-1.30.4-5.el7.x86_64 Any idea what's missing here or why this doesn't work as expected ? Cheers from the sunny South of France, Niki -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : info(a)microlinux.fr Tél. : 04 66 63 10 32

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Check version from installer disc
by Elliott Balsley 19 Oct '18

19 Oct '18

Is there some way to see what version will be installed by an installation disc? I made a USB installer and I forgot whether it's CentOS 7.3 or 7.5. Short of running the whole installer and seeing what happens, I can't see any way to get this info from within Anaconda.

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C7, NetworkMangler, and IPv6
by mark 17 Oct '18

17 Oct '18

Hi, folks, Freshly built box... but does not get its IPv6 address. Gets its IPv4 with no trouble, and if I *manually* run dhclient -v -N eno1, it gets the correct IPv6, but after that, nope. And INITIPV^=yes in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eno1. I even tried adding NETWORKING_IPV6=yes to an otherwise empty /etc/sysconfig/network. What am I missing? mark

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CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 164, Issue 4
by centos-announce-request＠centos.org 17 Oct '18

17 Oct '18

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C 7 installation annoyances
by mark 17 Oct '18

17 Oct '18

In the disk partitioner, I can't 1) choose to make the LVM with root and swap be on a RAID 1. Is there some way to do that, rather than two separate partitions RAIDed? 2) They don't align, so I can't clone /dev/sda to /dev/sdb as a failover (for /boot and /boot/efi). I've created those two, manually, and nope, it wiped them out, so I can't clone those two. Any solutions for either of these? I don't have hardware RAID card on this box. mark

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CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 164, Issue 3
by centos-announce-request＠centos.org 16 Oct '18

16 Oct '18

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Frefox update from firefox-60.2.0-1.el7.centos.x86_64 to 60.2.1-1.el7.centos.x86_64 lost master password
by Rob Kampen 16 Oct '18

16 Oct '18

Hi list, Did an update to firefox last night and rebooted over night. Today I find firefox started without asking for master password - funny me thinks. Try to log in to a web service I use and find that my password does not appear. Check preferences and find that no master password is set and the password list / table is empty. As I do not trust my passwords to the cloud I do not save these to my firefox profile ..... so back to manual entry for all my sites.... wow going to be a slow month as I reset scores of passwords. Any one else have this problem and any clues as to what causes this? I am concerned if this should happen again, as I have saved passwords for many scores of web services. TIA Rob

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