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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-devel] CentOS 8 future
by Leon Fauster 09 Dec '20

09 Dec '20

Am 09.12.20 um 20:28 schrieb Jon Pruente: > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 5:24 AM Leon Fauster via CentOS > <centos(a)centos.org <mailto:centos@centos.org>> wrote: > > > The relatively fewer that are on CentOS Linux 8 have some > decisions to > > make. The end of 2021 is sooner than they were expecting *but* > there is > > a fully available upgrade path from CentOS Linux 8 to CentOS > Stream 8 > > (IE: not a reinstall), and that will take them to 2024. That's > half of > > the 10 years they might have expected, but it should let them give > > Stream a try and see if it is for them or not. > > If "Stream" is the base for the next RHEL8.x where are the updates > until > 2029 coming from, when CentOS Stream 8 will be shutdown at 2024? > > > I think you've confused some dates, unless you have a link to the > 2024 date for Stream 8. CentOS 7 will continue until 2024. CentOS Stream > 8 doesn't have a clear EOL, but it is presumably at or before the end of > RHEL 8 in 2029. CentOS 8 EOL has been yanked back to 2021. > > https://centos.org/centos-stream/ <https://centos.org/centos-stream/> > > End-of-life > > N/A No, its exactly as I said: https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2020-December/352340.html https://centos.org/distro-faq/#q13-can-i-start-up-a-sig-that-will-maintain-… (full-support -> 2024). -- Leon

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CentOS Stream & Release Notes / Documentation
by Chris Schanzle 09 Dec '20

09 Dec '20

One thing I have not seen discussed is how users will be notified of changes to functionality and new features in CentOS Stream. With Stream being on the leading edge of a release as opposed to following, will there be some mechanism where changes are blogged about, Beta release notes, or something similar? Thanks again to JohnnyH and the rest of the team for a great ride.

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strange RPM dependency observed in CentOS 7
by Walter H. 09 Dec '20

09 Dec '20

Hello, can someone explain, why the two packages - GeoIP - geoipupdate are needed when installing the bind-utils package? yum install bind-utils ... ======================================================================================================================== Package Arch Version Repository Size ======================================================================================================================== Installing: bind-utils x86_64 32:9.11.4-26.P2.el7_9.2 base 260 k Installing for dependencies: GeoIP x86_64 1.5.0-14.el7 base 1.5 M bind-libs x86_64 32:9.11.4-26.P2.el7_9.2 base 157 k bind-libs-lite x86_64 32:9.11.4-26.P2.el7_9.2 base 1.1 M bind-license noarch 32:9.11.4-26.P2.el7_9.2 base 90 k geoipupdate x86_64 2.5.0-1.el7 base 35 k Transaction Summary ======================================================================================================================== Install 1 Package (+5 Dependent packages) ... Thanks, Walter

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CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 189, Issue 2
by centos-announce-request＠centos.org 09 Dec '20

09 Dec '20

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Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-devel] CentOS 8 future
by Leon Fauster 09 Dec '20

09 Dec '20

Am 09.12.20 um 04:18 schrieb Mike McGrath: > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 7:30 PM Leon Fauster via CentOS-devel > <centos-devel(a)centos.org <mailto:centos-devel@centos.org>> wrote: > > Am 08.12.20 um 23:22 schrieb Matthew Miller: > > On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 12:44:36PM -0600, Robert G. (Doc) Savage > via CentOS wrote: > >>> CentOS 8's future is not looking bright. Recently deployed > CentOS8 on my > >>> production workload and now hearing this. What do other folks think > >>> about this? > >> Speaking only for myself, I am ready to give up on CentOS (and > Red Hat) > >> entirely. Fedora meets all my clients' needs with none of the chaos. > > > > I definitely appreciate the vote of confidence in Fedora! You're > not alone > > in using Fedora in a lot of serious ways. > > > > However, I really encourage everyone to give this a chance. This is > > (post-Fedora) RHEL development opening up in a new way, and CentOS is > > central to it. That's a good place to be! > > > > > > Its important to distinguish two aspects here in this whole discussion. > > Its great that RH opens their "firewalls". CentOS Stream is great > for that but what actually pissed the people off is the termination > of CentOS8 Linux. So all arguments for C8S doesn't touch the problem > that people have now. And no - C8S is not a valid substitution. Its > valid for a different usage scenario that is of course worth to get a > chance but the mentioned problem don't get addressed ... > > > I agree the timing of this isn't great but keep in mind the vast > majority of CentOS users are on CentOS Linux 7, they have the full > lifecycle they expected. > > The relatively fewer that are on CentOS Linux 8 have some decisions to > make. The end of 2021 is sooner than they were expecting *but* there is > a fully available upgrade path from CentOS Linux 8 to CentOS Stream 8 > (IE: not a reinstall), and that will take them to 2024. That's half of > the 10 years they might have expected, but it should let them give > Stream a try and see if it is for them or not. If "Stream" is the base for the next RHEL8.x where are the updates until 2029 coming from, when CentOS Stream 8 will be shutdown at 2024? -- Leon

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Re: [CentOS] Is Oracle a real alternative to Centos?
by Karl Vogel 09 Dec '20

09 Dec '20

>> On Tue, 08 Dec 2020 12:54:32 -0500, >> Frank Cox <theatre(a)sasktel.net> might just possibly have said: F> Is Oracle a real alternative to Centos? I'm asking because genuinely F> don't know; I've never paid any attention to Oracle's Linux offering F> before now. I've used Unix/Linux at Wright-Patterson AFB, USA since 1988 -- this includes Solaris starting at 2.5.1 up to 11, FreeBSD, and Linux. I used CentOS for several years and I'm a refugee simply because it was easier to get something containing the name "Oracle" approved for use on base. (All the stupid sh*t you've heard about gov't procurement is true.) I *despise* Oracle the company, but I ran Oracle Linux as both a server for an Oracle DB and as my workstation starting Jan 2018 after a drive failure knocked my machine out of the park. Occasionally I had to dork around looking for a source RPM, but other than that I was fine with it. You use "yum" like anywhere else. FWIW, my 6.10 installation had this in /etc/redhat-release: Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 6.10 (Santiago) Go to https://linux.oracle.com/switch/centos/, poke around a bit, and you end up here: https://yum.oracle.com/oracle-linux-downloads.html I just went to the ISO page and I can grab whatever I like without signing up for anything, so nothing's changed since I first used it. I use FreeBSD on my home systems to avoid precisely this kind of crap, so this is *NOT* a recommendation for Oracle in general -- be ready for them to change the rules at any time. Finally, I've been on this list for many years -- Johnny H. is the most responsive and least arrogant person I've ever seen, so please don't pee in his Wheaties. -- Karl Vogel / vogelke AT pobox.com / I don't speak for the USAF or any company Mangled song lyric: I can't climb this ceiling any more. Actual lyric: I can't fight this feeling anymore. (REO Speedwagon)

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Update CentOS 6 one last time?
by Paul Storck 09 Dec '20

09 Dec '20

Hello, is it possible to install the final updates for CentOS 6? I ran a yum update and I received this message "Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: base" I assume it's due to the EOL of CentOS 6? Thank you, Paul

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Re: [CentOS] Update CentOS 6 one last time?
by Richard 08 Dec '20

08 Dec '20

> Date: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 13:25:42 -0800 > From: Paul Storck via CentOS <centos(a)centos.org> > >> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 8:45 AM Subscriber <ml-lists(a)agoris.net.ua> >> wrote: >> >> > ----- On Dec 8, 2020, at 6:31 PM, Paul Storck wrote: >> >> > Hello, is it possible to install the final updates for CentOS 6? >> > I ran a yum update and I received this message "Error: Cannot >> > find a valid baseurl for repo: base" I assume it's due to the >> > EOL of CentOS 6? >> >> You can add 6.10 section to /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Vault.repo and >> after that install all last updates for CentOS 6 >> > > Thank you for the response. I added (copied, edited, pasted from > the C6.9 section) the following to the > /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Vault.repo file but I still get the same > error message. > > I'm thinking the paths are incorrect in my file because when I try > to go to directly to the URL > (http://vault.centos.org/6.10/os/$basearch/) I get a "404 Not Found" > > [C6.10-base] > name=CentOS-6.10 - Base > baseurl=http://vault.centos.org/6.10/os/$basearch/ > gpgcheck=1 > gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-6 > enabled=1 When you tried the url directly did you make the necessary substitutions for "$basearch"? It needs an architecture and then some additional pathing to get to packages. After adding the C6.10 entries to the Vault repo did you turn off the entries (e.g., set "enabled=" to "0") in the non-vault repos? If you don't yum will still try them. The CentOS-Base.repo is on by default so you'll either need to add the "enabled=" line to each of the entries or otherwise disable the repos.

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unsubscribe
by Daniel Worden 08 Dec '20

08 Dec '20

Could you please unsubscribe this email address. I was not aware of the volume of messages this would create and I would like to resubscire using a different email address. Thank you, Daniel Worden

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CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 189, Issue 1
by centos-announce-request＠centos.org 08 Dec '20

08 Dec '20

Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to centos-announce(a)centos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-announce-request(a)centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-announce-owner(a)centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Release for CentOS Linux 8 (2011) (Brian Stinson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 15:06:36 -0600 From: Brian Stinson <bstinson(a)centosproject.org> To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS Linux 8 (2011) Message-ID: <85a40c22-dad9-f6d5-c123-d4126039f965(a)centosproject.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Release for CentOS Linux 8 (2011) We are pleased to announce the general availability of CentOS Linux 8. Effectively immediately, this is the current release for CentOS Linux 8 and is tagged as 2011, derived from Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.3 Source Code. As always, read through the Release Notes at: http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS8.2011 - these notes contain important information about the release and details about some of the content inside the release from the CentOS QA team. These notes are updated constantly to include issues and incorporate feedback from users. ---------- Updates, Sources, and DebugInfos Updates released since the upstream release are all posted, across all architectures. We strongly recommend every user apply all updates, including the content released today, on your existing CentOS Linux 8 machine by just running 'dnf update'. As with all CentOS Linux 8 components, this release was built from sources hosted at git.centos.org. Sources will be available from vault.centos.org in their own dedicated directories to match the corresponding binary RPMs. Since there is far less traffic to the CentOS source RPMs compared with the binary RPMs, we are not putting this content on the main mirror network. If users wish to mirror this content they can do so using the reposync command available in the yum/dnf-utils package. All CentOS source RPMs are signed with the same key used to sign their binary counterparts. Developers and end users looking at inspecting and contributing patches to the CentOS Linux distro will find the code hosted at git.centos.org far simpler to work against. Details on how to best consume those are documented along with a quick start at: http://wiki.centos.org/Sources Debuginfo packages have been signed and pushed. Yum configs shipped in the new release file will have all the context required for debuginfo to be available on every CentOS Linux install. This release supersedes all previously released content for CentOS Linux 8, and therefore we highly encourage all users to upgrade their machines. Information on different upgrade strategies and how to handle stale content is included in the Release Notes. Note that older content, obsoleted by newer versions of the same applications are trim'd off from repos like extras/ and centosplus/ ---------- Download We produced the following installer images for CentOS Linux 8 # CentOS-8.3.2011-x86_64-boot.iso: 716177408 bytes SHA256 (CentOS-8.3.2011-x86_64-boot.iso) = 2b801bc5801816d0cf27fc74552cf058951c42c7b72b1fe313429b1070c3876c # CentOS-8.3.2011-x86_64-dvd1.iso: 9264168960 bytes SHA256 (CentOS-8.3.2011-x86_64-dvd1.iso) = aaf9d4b3071c16dbbda01dfe06085e5d0fdac76df323e3bbe87cce4318052247 # CentOS-8.3.2011-aarch64-boot.iso: 636792832 bytes SHA256 (CentOS-8.3.2011-aarch64-boot.iso) = b87fc578c53b541229883d391d1299b9d2a051c1f33dc15052dc42ed941600a9 # CentOS-8.3.2011-aarch64-dvd1.iso: 6792984576 bytes SHA256 (CentOS-8.3.2011-aarch64-dvd1.iso) = ecf586b30fa16b28a33b2fb4ffadd8801201608f9755c94da1212876d32fba92 # CentOS-8.3.2011-ppc64le-boot.iso: 686874624 bytes SHA256 (CentOS-8.3.2011-ppc64le-boot.iso) = 13ebdc5ecdfc316fa4528f3bc4d896ca32745af65766bd84ece37e10d87f8e9e # CentOS-8.3.2011-ppc64le-dvd1.iso: 7887482880 bytes SHA256 (CentOS-8.3.2011-ppc64le-dvd1.iso) = a56fc1039534155253ca412fcd8e0293e6f67fd92c526a8b754309578140dff6 Information for the torrent files and sums are available at http://mirror.centos.org/centos/8/isos/ -------- Additional Images Vagrant and Generic Cloud images are available at: http://cloud.centos.org/centos/8/ Amazon Machine Images for Amazon Web Services are published by ID into a number of regions. A table of AMI IDs can be found here: https://wiki.centos.org/Cloud/AWS ---------- Getting Help The CentOS ecosystem is sustained by community driven help and guidance. The best place to start for new users is at http://wiki.centos.org/GettingHelp We are also on social media, you can find the project: on Twitter at :http://twitter.com/CentOSProject on Facebook at :https://www.facebook.com/groups/centosproject/ on LinkedIn at :https://www.linkedin.com/groups/22405 And you will find the core team and a majority of the contributors on irc, on freenode.net in #centos ; talking about the finer points of distribution engineering and platform enablement. ---------- Contributors This release was made possible due to the hard work of many people, foremost on that list are the Red Hat Engineers for producing a great distribution and the CentOS QA team, without them CentOS Linux would look very different. Many of the team went further and beyond expectations to bring this release to you, and I would like to thank everyone for their help. We are also looking for people to get involved with the QA process in CentOS, if you would like to join this please introduce yourself on the centos-devel list (http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel). Finally, please join me in thanking the donors who all make this possible for us. Enjoy the fresh new release! Thanks, Brian Stinson ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce(a)centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce ------------------------------ End of CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 189, Issue 1 ***********************************************

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