On 04/13/2017 03:01 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On Thu, April 13, 2017 1:38 pm, Mauricio Tavares wrote:
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 2:06 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 04/12/2017 02:08 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
d) And then there stuff that I'm not sure of the purpose... like
eclipse, that needs 2GB to run... for an editor.
mark "my web pages proudly built in vi!"And mine on medon.htt-consult.com done with Geany. Using a editor that understands html tags so you can collapse ones not
being edited does make life simpler. Also lets you know, indirectly, when your copy and pasting messed up the tag pairing.
Yeah, well, I've tried word processors, and, years back, I tried
Quanta,
which was specifically for working on web pages, and the HTML generated by all word processors sucks dead Mar-a-Lago roaches. And *all* of them want to left-justify, even if there's an option not to, and you set that,
rather than leaving it properly indented.
Just to add a bit to discussion. There are tools (editors) to edit html code for web pages. Looking at some html documents I see a lot of junk added by these tools. Who will blame stupid program that is designed to handle everything for doing that? Not me. But I do not what any junk inside anything I wrote. Do you want "mozilla generator" in the hidden field of your html document?
That is why I use Geany. It gives you a very basic html template and you go from there.
I have been 'learning on the job' to make decent boxes for my commands, with bars when needed.
Still working on it and would love to have a copy to clipboard button, but all the various examples I have found are not working.
But I must confess: I do not write html or php webpages (except for most trivial ones, or editing ones written by someone else). And as Mark I use vi for that (and almost for everything, fancy formatted printouts may be exemption). Will you be surprised by the fact that some web servers are configured to not serve files ending with tilde symbol "~"? As these will be served as text verbatim, and therefore will disclose whateve you have inside file with the same name without tilde. I know more than one web developer who use emacs, edits files in situ (not elsewhere) and never even think of cleaning xxxx~ files.
Valeri
The forced left justify part reminds me of a conversation I hadwith a vendor last year. It was something on the lines of "I know this
might come as a shock to you but there are people out there who has phone numbers that are not exactly 9 digits long and postal codes with letters and numbers."
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