On Sun, January 11, 2015 2:05 pm, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 01/11/2015 03:02 PM, Always Learning wrote:
On Sun, 2015-01-11 at 20:04 +0100, Sven Kieske wrote to Valeri Galtsev ....
I can't take this serious as it seems you didn't research any of the design goals of systemd and any of the shortcomings of old init systems.
Design goals ? Compatibility with and/or minimum disruption to existing systems ?
It was arrogant change with absolutely no regard for the existing Centos/RHEL users. That *is* a strange "design goal" (or 'objective' in English). Some may consider that "goal" an inadvertent omission.
Obviously designed by non-Centos/RHEL users for their personal amusement and pleasure and not as an acceptable enhancement that could be implemented, perhaps in phases, within minimum disruption to existing systems reliant on stable Centos/RHEL. Yes, I know it takes brains to properly consider all the implications of major changes. On this occasion it seems the 'brains' were holidaying away from the influence of due diligence and old fashioned commonsense.
Why should the 'brains' care ? They don't run systems that require stability and reliability - that is why they lurk in Fedora where disruption is a scheduled "design goal".
Remember that English phrase? Fools step-in where wise men fear to tread.
Hopefully the next "improvement" will consider the adverse affect on the non-Fedora users and on their well-tuned systems.
There's always the option of just NOT upgrading...and using what you currently have...(I'm just now going from CentOS 5 to CentOS 6!....) I'm just saying.
Indeed. Or another system altogether (sihg). I'm just extending your thought half a step farther ;-)
Valeri
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++