At Sat, 27 Jun 2020 22:09:47 -0500 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
On 6/27/20 5:26 PM, Ron Loftin wrote:
On Sat, 2020-06-27 at 18:17 -0400, Jay Hart wrote:
We currently have a Brother MFC-5490CN. Printer firmware is dated June 1010. (yeah, 10 years old).  Few years ago the brother software wouldn't work for printing under Fedora.  No problem, can print under Windows 10.  Then it stopped scanning.  Could still print...under Windows.
Now, to fix the scanning features working I installed updated drivers under Windows, now it scans like champ, but won't print, at all.
Time to go!!!
I'd say that 10 years is a decent run for a printer, depending on usage.
If you want to stick with Brother, check out the Staples Web site and look at the refurb page. Â I've gotten some good deals there.
I would recommend HP LaserJet printers. Have no experience with ink printers. I would recommend to make sure that you get postscript printer. Then you will be OK on Linux and UNIX (CUPS will be your friend).
I have no experience with low end printers. I was hesitant recently, and could not throw away HP LaserJet 4050, which was purchased 18 years ago, was getting really tough beating being used in the Department I support, and still works.
HP *used* to make very good laser printers. *Maybe* they still do, at their higher end, but they are just very expensive. For the most part HP's *inkjet* printers are junk. Inkjet technology is a technology that seems to never really delivered on the promise of low-cost, but good quality. They seem to be cheaply made and can be terribly expensive in terms of consumables -- but in a nickle and dime way -- eg a $20 cartridge only prints 100-200 pages or something -- you end up being nickle and dimed to death... Part of what happened is that laser printers have gotten cheaper, generally without losing quality. Laser printers only *seem* expensive (higher capital cost -- but tend to last longer) with more costly cartrides (but each cartridge prints several *thousand* pages, vs. ink carts only printing *hundreds* of pages). Once you look in terms of *years* of service and *thousands* of pages, laser printers are actually cheaper to buy and operate than inkjets.
The other *big* gotcha is printer language: laser printers are page oriented devices -- they *must* buffer a whole page at a time -- so often laser printers speak some flavor of PostScript (they might as well, since PostScript is also page oriented) -- this makes them almost always Linux / UNIX friendly devices. Inkjet printers are line oriented and generally only buffer a "line". Inkjet printers almost never speak PostScript, but instead use a whole pile of "languages". And *some* are "winprinters" which use some arcane protocol / language that only works properly under MS-Windows.
Valeri
Hence my question...
Jay
Our office has had a Brother MFC-8510DN for at least five years - no issues.  As has been said below, you do have to download and install the driver but the process hasn't been problematic.  Having said that, I haven't pushed the limit on it's capabilities, just done rather plain printing.
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On Sat, 2020-06-27 at 15:44 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 17:33:39 -0400 Jay Hart wrote:
If you had to rate which printer brand works better with Linux (Fedora and Centos), what would it be?
Any Brother printer that I've ever had the misfortune to have to deal with either didn't work at all or if could be made to work, it didn't work for long.
If it's a Brother, run away as fast as you can.  They're the cheapest crappiest thing you can possibly imagine.
My wife makes quilts and says the same thing about Brother sewing machines.
I can't speak to the sewing machines, but I have to say that I've had very good luck with Brother printers.  However, we have to be honest and acknowledge that I'm talking about LASER printers, not the $%^&* inkjet silliness.
In my DEFINITELY not-so-humble opinion, the "run away as fast as you can" advice applies to ALL inkjets that are intended for home use.
The only real differences I'm aware of between Brother and HP LASER printers are price, and the fact that the HP drivers are usually included in the distribution by default, and you have to download and install the Brother drivers.  I'm sitting next to a Brother MFC L- 2750DW that is a year or so old, and it does everything I need it to.
As always, YMMV.
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