On 1/19/2011 12:03 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
You are biased by having learned to live with the restrictions of old
So, what I like how something works is all "old cruft", and I should get with the program, and not have opinions on what I want and how I want it to work?
That's not the point. You've had years to learn how to make a computer work like a slightly smarter typewriter, and for a long time that was about all they could do and everyone was happy with it. But that's not what someone starting today should expect.
That *is* what you're saying to me, to which I respond with "take your opinion and shove it".
OK, now it's my turn to misinterpret your position: you are saying that all of the work that the upstream developers are doing has no value and the field of computer science was complete when CentOS 5 was released (or was it awk...). And I disagree.
Sorry, but Outlook 2003 and 2007 are huge improvements over earlier versions - and lacking tight integration between messaging and calendar/scheduling has been one of the places where free software really missed the boat.
No, they are *NOT* "huge improvements", they are absolute *shit*, that make any of the minor things I occasionally want/need to do *far* harder. And I thought I hated 2003, but 2007 I despise with a passion.
My company is fairly distributed and lives on conference calls - and I absolutely need the calendar integration/reminders to track the scheduling. As far as the email component goes, I usually have a thunderbird imap view of the same messages - and have used evolution without any real difference in capabilities except in what happens when I open (e.g) a visio file on a non-windows platform. I can't think of anything you'd want a mailer to do that would be 'hard' in any of those environments.
And remember that firefox/openoffice are rare exceptions in RHEL/Centos in that they have had major-version updates since the distro release, even though they still are far behind 'current' now. The rest of the distro is much older and doesn't do much of what people do with desktops today (subscribing to podcasts, media playing, serving media to other devices, etc.).
Huh? I have no problem with streaming media, or playing pretty much any media that I care to. What media is difficult to serve?
What apps are you using for (say) podcast subscription management, playing audio/video files, or serving them to upnp/DLNA devices? If you are using 3rd party sources you are making my point about CentOS not making a great desktop, and if you enable more than one 3rd party yum repository you are setting the system up for future conflicts.
Sorry, but in *my* opinion, you've swallowed the Kool-Aid to the dregs.
That good software is still being developed and updates are worthwhile??? Yes, I believe that.